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Question: How many page views does this forum having per day

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MonsterMMORPG

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    Seriously i don't know why but the forum is too slow for me. When i check via alexa statistics it is also very slow there : Very Slow (4.217 Seconds), 94% of sites are faster.

    Now i wonder how many pages views are this forum getting per day ?
     
    The forum is slowed by high server strain caused by either a lot of users at a time or by resource-intensive tasks like multiple searches. It comes and goes, so when you ran that test, you were probably just doing it in a laggy time frame.
     
    The forum is slowed by high server strain caused by either a lot of users at a time or by resource-intensive tasks like multiple searches. It comes and goes, so when you ran that test, you were probably just doing it in a laggy time frame.

    Probable but it was also very slow several months ago. And it is generally slow for me yet i have 50 mbit fiber connection. Anyway learning page view count would be useful for me :)

    edit : sending this post took more than 10 seconds
     
    It's been this way for as long as I've been a member since we haven't had a new server or an upgrade in a while as far as I know. Your connection speed will help boost things, sure, but ultimately when you're running on speeds like you are, your loading times will be mostly up to the PC server. Which depends on server strain at the time.

    I don't know what our page views are like though.
     
    I'd like to see a hit counter or something because I'd be interested in the figures this forum pulls day in day out.
     
    I live in Turkey
    I have 50 mbit fiber connection at home - being used only by me
    I am able to download videos from Youtube with 6.5 mega byte (6500 KB) per second not mega bit :)

    I don't know what connection you have guys ^^ And i have never have any problem at other many gaming forums like this one.

    Edit : Wow took more than 10 sec again.
     
    Are you using Quick Reply? That'd be why it takes so long to post right there.

    Clicked quote for this message which is fully reply and this page opening took about 5 seconds

    I am using mixed sometimes full sometimes quick. But at other forums quick reply also working very fast less than 1 sec.
     
    Clicked quote for this message which is fully reply and this page opening took about 5 seconds

    I am using mixed sometimes full sometimes quick. But at other forums quick reply also working very fast less than 1 sec.

    Earlier in the year, and I don't know if this is still an issue, the Quick Reply Javascript was having problems, causing slow replies through quick reply.

    Another thing I just thought of is that you are in Turkey, while the server for PC is in the state of Texas in the United States, which is a large geographical distance for your traffic to travel. Speed and reliability slowdowns due to distance are more of an issue over greater distances.

    Then there's the fact that we're near our maximum connections limit constantly. Hosts only allow a certain number of connections at one time, depending on how much you pay.
     
    forums by their nature are typically slower then other types of websites and well this is a an older, somewhat heavily modified vB forum backend.

    Most of the slowdowns is due to other users using the same db tables you need (they get locked for each query) and distance (for quick reply and other ajax features, your computer's power and speed play a large role) from the server, as well as time of day.

    remember, if you're posting or opening a non-popular thread, the site has to locate, load and serve the post data (some popular ones are cached as they're accessed more often) all this takes time, yes sometimes as long as 10 seconds. the database is ~9.25GB thats a lot of data to look thru.

    Now about pageviews, tPC gets about 90K pv a day on average currently. Yesterday we had exactly 252,723 page views.

    p.s. this was a quick reply and took less then 2 seconds to process and load the page.
     
    forums by their nature are typically slower then other types of websites and well this is a an older, somewhat heavily modified vB forum backend.

    Most of the slowdowns is due to other users using the same db tables you need (they get locked for each query) and distance (for quick reply and other ajax features, your computer's power and speed play a large role) from the server, as well as time of day.

    remember, if you're posting or opening a non-popular thread, the site has to locate, load and serve the post data (some popular ones are cached as they're accessed more often) all this takes time, yes sometimes as long as 10 seconds. the database is ~9.25GB thats a lot of data to look thru.

    Now about pageviews, tPC gets about 90K pv a day on average currently. Yesterday we had exactly 252,723 page views.

    p.s. this was a quick reply and took less then 2 seconds to process and load the page.

    Thanks for the reply. Well since i am a computer engineer i am really experienced with such stuff. The delay between usa and me is about 200 ms so it is not about distance issue.

    Now for my game yesterday i had exactly 206,342 Pageviews yet my game is very smooth working on 150 euro (i can say i got it with almost half price) server. I have over 1.5m record Monsters table yet the queries are really fast. My server has 16 cpu cores and 24 gb ram and 4x 1000 gb hdd as raid 10

    Now the possible issues why the forum is too slow

    1-What are the specifics of your server ? This is really important.
    2-Your database might be suffering from the index missing problems severely. If there are not proper indexes you can slow down up to 90% percent easily.
    3- Your forum software might be corrupted or addons might be slowing it down

    In my opinion the option 2 is very likely. Since this forum uses php you also must be using mysql. You should look how to find missing indexes on mysql or slowing down indexes.

    The slowness is really killing the forum experience though. It really need to be fixed. And it is not really caused by me since i am also member of many usa located forums and some of them are really bigger than this one.
     
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    the server is a modest quad core, with 6GB rams..

    the software we use, vBulletin, is decent but has some db issues on larger boards.. not much we can do about it unless we throw a TON of money at it.

    I agree that there may be some add-ons or hacks that are old now and slowing us down.. not sure though as some are so integrated into our code, its hard to tell what can be disabled and what can't.

    You shoulda seen us on the old server.. THAT was slow.
     
    the server is a modest quad core, with 6GB rams..

    the software we use, vBulletin, is decent but has some db issues on larger boards.. not much we can do about it unless we throw a TON of money at it.

    I agree that there may be some add-ons or hacks that are old now and slowing us down.. not sure though as some are so integrated into our code, its hard to tell what can be disabled and what can't.

    You shoulda seen us on the old server.. THAT was slow.

    Seems like your server is the main reason. If you move 16 cores at least 16 GB ram server, i suppose the forum would rocket up. The hdd count also very important. 8 HDD as raid 10 would be great. My game is currently hosted on here : https://www.leaseweb.com/en

    It is one of the major dedicated servers provider and I have been with them over 6 months. It is working pretty smooth. Here a screenshot of my server features

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    I think PC should be making enough money to move a better server :)
     
    Thanks for providing us with your highly enlightening expertise on the subject, but I'm sure we all already were aware that our server isn't the best. Alas, server upgrades require money. Unless you would like to volunteer yourself in donating the required funds for the upgrade and for the continued pay towards that server in coming months after the upgrade, I think it's best to remain thankful that we're on a better server than we were a few years ago rather than criticizing it and assuming Steve has the funds to pay for it when I'm sure there are other more important things he has to pay for, like bills.

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