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5th Gen How would you change certain parts of Plasma's storyline?

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    Sooo not best time of day to be making a thread oh well!

    Basically, let's say you're given the opportunity to change Plasma's storyline throughout the game (not the end of the storyline, that's covered). So for example, instead of Ghetsis' appearing in Accumula giving a speech, he could appear in Nuvema, trying to free your starter (idk). Or maybe when N appears in Chargestone, it's under different circumstances, and he wants to steal a Joltik to harness Zekrom's electricity, or something like that. Beeeeeeeee creative and I will worship you.

    Just remember, their goal hasn't changed, but rather their storyline to make it more interesting. So post away what you'd change. :D
     
    I think the primary way in which I would change it is to add more to it - unfortunately for Team Plasma, the amount of actual activity they had in B/W was barely above that of any of the other teams in any of the other games, and it suffered for it. Rather than just being a sidequest for the player, it should have been more involving, and more...well, present.

    What might have been an interesting would have been if N had taken on a Gym Leader and then forced them to release their Pokemon, just prior to your battling them. The ideal place for this event would have been the last gym, since the leader changed with the version - perhaps you were meant to fight the opposite Gym Leader, only to have N show up beforehand, defeat them, and then force them to release their Pokemon, meaning you'd have to fight the other one.
     
    collect the 7 green orbs and summon rayquaza to wish for liberation
    I'm think of Ghetsis trying to get both Reshiram and Zekrom. He sends a group of grunts to look for the other hero so they recruit him. (Or force him. Brainwashing I suppose?) Also N and the other hero destroy the whole E4 instead of beating them normally.
    idk. i'm pretty lazy to come up with anything else. When I do I'll prolly edit this.
     
    I'd like for them to havce grunts stand in your way as you try to navigate N's Castle. It felt really barren making my way through that huge place with no battles in between the Elite Four and N.

    I would have liked to confront the other Sages, with them assuming the role of "Admins/Executives" - kind of mid-boss like characters.
     
    Maybe Ghetsis (aka ghechissu or denis) will appear at Nuvema Town (as you said) and you battle N after Prof. Juniper teaches you how to use the PC/PM with 2 pokemon or 3 instead of one, and Denis (i will call him that way) will battle you after N (like the one at n's castle but no legendary) with Pawniard and Deino. and Team Plasma will appear first at Pinwheel Forest instead of Dream Yard to absorb Virizion's power. Aaaaaaand at Castelia City before going to the gym (after the event of meeting the third sage) N will battle you with Seawaddle and Dweblee (buggy) and at Driftveil with Ducklett, Solosis (black)/Gothia (white) and Minccino. And at Iccirus City, N catches Zekrom (black)/Reshiram (white) when flying to Desert Resort and going to Opelucid and AN EPIC THING HAPPENS! DENIS GETS A NEW MUSIC! EPICER THAN THE NORMAL ONE! With Zwelios, Bisharp, Palpitoad, Bouffalant, and Mienshao, then YOU GO TO VICTORY ROAD AND HAVE AN EPIC BATTLE WITH N! USING ZEKROM/RESHIRAM, CARRACOSTA, ARCHEOPS, AND HIS OTHER POKEMON. And at N's Castle, Like the events, YOU SEE AN EPIC RESHIRAM/ZEKROM CUTSCENE AND THE LIGHT/DARK EGG HATCHES INTO RESHIRAM/ZEKROM AND BATTLE N AND GHETSIS AND THEN N RELEASES HIS RESHIRAM/ZEKROM AND YOU BATTLE RESHIRAM/ZEKROM AT NUVEMA TOWN!
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    I love N's castle, that is something that I will never change or hopes that it get changed. Anyways, the only thing that I would change about team Plasma is their interference at Liberty Island. In my opinion, I never seen the point of it; it just wasn't needed.


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    I would have included the Shadow Triad more, they could have done some awesome things. ;3 And everyone seems to associate Zorua/Zoroark with N, so I'd like to include a scene where Zorua/Zoroark turns into a person... hmm, maybe Team Plasma kidnaps a gym leader and Zorua/Zoroark pretends to be them? Maybe Lenora so Team Plasma could steal the Dark/Light stone from the museum, or maybe Drayden/Iris so they could um.. learn about the dragons? xD
     
    You know how they kicked that poor Munna in the Dreamyard? I think it could be put much later, for example, after N's confession as the king of Plasma. In that scene, they should be defending the Munna itself since they were supposed to liberate Pokemon, and they might have thought you were trying to capture it.

    But after a while, they start to show their true colors and abuse the heck out of Pokemon (and people?). I think it would have made quite a contrast and cause players to suspect them, instead of see them as hypocrites right off the bat.
     
    Maybe when you meet him in chargestone cave he is catching tynamo, which are quite rare, to power a machine to power zekrom in white, and catching litwick at celsital tower to power reshi in black.
     
    I think the primary way in which I would change it is to add more to it - unfortunately for Team Plasma, the amount of actual activity they had in B/W was barely above that of any of the other teams in any of the other games, and it suffered for it. Rather than just being a sidequest for the player, it should have been more involving, and more...well, present.
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    I'll agree with this - more improvements on the post-game quests in particular and...well, explaining more about them. The Shadow Triad for instance were rather undeveloped characters and felt like that were just thrown in because ninjas! The sages were not that well explained either even with their sub-quest, and I just didn't buy the fact that Cheren had just let Ghetsis get away - that was a 'lolwut' moment for me. The sudden castle at the end, although epic, felt random to me - maybe some more vague hints in the lead up to it for instance would have helped that. I don't feel much more than that should be added into the game (beyond making N less stalkerish aaaaa), but that's me.

    EDIT - Heck I forgot about Anthea and Concordia orwhateverytheyarecalled which kinda says something about their characters, or lack thereof. They're in the intro sequnce and in one part of the game, and that's it, and aren't really explained at all.
     
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    I feel as that this organization wasn't engaging enough. I remember playing LG/FR or even R/S/E where Team Rocket/Team Magma/Aqua had much more involvement in the game. I would have wished to see more of Ghestis and his evil plots and what not. I honestly think at the start of the game, he has you really drawn in, but it wasn't as good of a story as I thought it would be for what he was saying to the crowd of people.
     
    I think the only thing i'd do is make it longer. But i like it. Its fine as it is.
     
    I'm surprised to see a topic like this ; I loved the storyline. But, it's an opinion thing.

    Now that you mention it, in other games, like Platinum, Team Galactic seemed to appear once or twice in every town and city!

    Also, one thing that kinda bothered me was when that ghost type trainer in the Elite Four said, "Eyes brimming with dark flame, this man rejected everything other than himself in order to bring about one singular justice..." I assumed she was talking about N, but he's not that evil! D:
     
    Well, I wish they could have put a little more development into Anthea and Concordia, The Shadow Triad and the seven sages. Maybe make them all battleable.

    Mostly Anthea and Concordia though, they didn't appear much but I honestly love them. Seriously; "there is nothing more beautiful and terrifying than innocence."

    I would also maybe put in a hideout in a random area, since they seem to be the only ones without one, discluding N's castle and that building in Castelia.
     
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    I would also maybe put in a hideout in a random area, since they seem to be the only ones without one, discluding N's castle and that building in Castelia.
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    They have a little secret lab on Route 17, if that counts for anything.
     
    - More Sage and Shadow Triad involvement. None of this "oh, we'll maybe have them randomly show up sometimes and do something of semi-importance". Give them an actual story line. *crosses fingers for Striaton leaders being Shadow Triad*

    - An actual explanation for the Shadow Triad. I get that they work for Ghetsis and whatnot, and it's cool that they can teleport, but they seemed so lazily put in that I felt the Sages (or even Anthea and Concordia, for that matter) could've done what they did.

    - An explanation for the castle that randomly pops up just because.

    - An explanation for why N's room was in the castle and what it was supposed to be. I felt like it was supposed to be important but they just dropped the ball on that one.

    - Less N, more Team Plasma. N showed up so often and the rest of Team Plasma showed up so little that I felt like N was another rival and Team Plasma was just an afterthought.

    - Sage battling. They gave up way too easily. Seriously, they run away to avoid the police, and then just give themselves up. They shouldn't have even bothered running away if they were going to give up that easily.
     
    I like Team Plasma's storyline just the way it is. But the revelation that N is the Team Plasma leader in Nimbasa is too sudden, so I feel that instead of N revealing the title in Nimbasa, Ghetsis can reveal that N is TP's leader at Relic Castle.
     
    H i l d a said:
    They have a little secret lab on Route 17, if that counts for anything.
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    Yeah, the P2 lab, but that's not what I ment. I mean like, the space center that team galactic hid in, in d/p/pt or the magma hideout in Mt. Pyre.
     
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