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    Does anyone wonder if you trade a pokemon either wonder trading or GTS, do you receive a pokemon with the same ID No. (as long as you don't get your pokemon back) or is it always different

    There's only 65536 possible ID No. (If you count 00000) and there's more people than that to play it, so I'm sure there's at least 2 people with the same ID No.

    I need everyone to write done there ID No. and let's see if any match.
    Also if you like to get top prize in the lottery,
    I also believe this is possibly the best way to get the top prize

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    Only 65,536 different ID number combos? I thought that there would be more.

    ID number varies from save file to save file, so I'm just gonna write down the one for my Alpha Sapphire:

    13333

    I just find it funny how my ID # came out with four 3s in a row like that.
     
    I often have bad memory of my previous ID No's, so I'm just leaving the one I had in X for now: 50229

    Come to think of it, a lot of my main playthroughs had my ID No. often starting with a 5. It's weird, but something I noticed because I remember my Ruby save file's ID No. had a 5 as the first digit, along with Black (not sure but I think there was a 5 in there) and even one of my old saves in Pearl and Platinum.

    I must have this thing towards 5's starting my ID No's for some weird reason then.
     
    I have no clue as to what my previous ID was in Pokémon Y version, but currently, I believe it's something along the lines of 52061. As for Omega Ruby, it's 28163. Unfortunately, I haven't won anything on the lottery with these IDs as of yet; would be great if I were able!
     
    I'm personally pretty sure that there would be people that have matching trainer IDs on Pokemon caught by different people. That however isn't the only ID number of note.

    Trainer IDs only go up to 65535, so there are 65536 possibilities (as 00000 is also a valid combination - and incidentally, 2 to the power of 16 is exactly 65536 - that limit is no accident). Now, let's run some rough numbers and only consider ORAS. ORAS sold ~ 1.5 million in America, and over 2 million in Japan already. Let's say Europe, Australia and etc give another 1.5 million, so 5 million games sold, and everyone who bought it played it enough to get a Trainer ID. Some people must have matching ID numbers, as there's way more players than numbers. You only need 65537 players to be sure there is at least one match.

    Incidentally, assuming an equal probability of any particular ID number (1/65536), and using binomial probability, the chance for one - and only one - person to have the particular ID number of, say, 00000 from 5 million players is... 5.6e-32, assuming I didn't screw up buttons on this calculator. That's extremely unlikely to happen (that's a 56 after 31 zeros after the decimal point, or). As for nobody to get it, it's more like 7.34e-34.

    Now, that's only part of it, but the point is that there would be a lot of identical trainer ID numbers, especially when you throw in all the XY games, and Pokemon traded up from 3rd/4th/5th gen games, and that people may have started multiple save files as well. The other part is what about people receiving a Pokemon with an identical TID to them from a trade?

    Well, in X&Y, we know there's been at least 100 million trades on the GTS. Let's go with five million players again (an underestimate of XY's sales!), and assume that everyone contributed 100/5 = 20 trades on the GTS (a bit silly, but let's go with averages). The chance that you get at least one match from those twenty trades with your specific TID (going with that chance of 1/65536) is 1 - ~0.999695 = 0.000305 - a 61/200000 chance. This isn't likely [but better than finding a shiny Pokemon from one encounter! 1/4096 ~ 0.000244], but now consider five million traders doing the same thing. The chances of nobody getting a match from that is extremely small, and that's ignoring things like getting two matches from different people with each other rather than your own ID. On top of this, we're also ignoring a little thing called Wonder Trade. (Granted, we're also ignoring the chance someone gets the matching TID pokemon only to trade it away).


    Lastly, this isn't the only way to differentiate who caught what Pokemon. You see, besides TIDs and the name of the trainer, there's one last number that is hidden from normal players, known as the SID (Secret ID). Bulbapedia quotes as follows (simply 1/65536 squared) the chance of both of these matching ignoring the trainer name bit for two players:
    If two different Trainers have the same Trainer name, identical ID numbers and identical hidden ID numbers (a 1 in 4,294,967,296 chance if the names do not differ), the game will recognize the two Trainers as the same, so the Pokémon are not considered to be outsider Pokémon.
    So you can assume that you getting a Pokemon that the game thinks you caught when you didn't is unlikely, or for that matter unlikely for that happening for anyone. If it has happened already, there hasn't been many occurrences of that at all. You'd have to hope for cases of a lot of players going with standard names, like Ash or default names (Brendan), or their own name if it's particularly popular/common.

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    My ID number in Alpha Sapphire is 09432. And to make things easier, my ingame name is Odyssey.

    Also, my ID number in X is 47373, and my ingame name is Nova.
     
    Interesting theory I wasnt aware that theres a limit to ID# other than 99999.
    my id is 13838 OT Brick

    and i have 2 boxes full of wondertrades
    (x)igebasu 00203

    johnny 02494
    inamora 08687

    xxpu 13020
    Nayr 13687
    Jake 16709
    ayu 17051
    Lok 18452
    natsumi 18952


    8daime 20457
    Plarbur 22724
    takumi 22755
    Angel 24761
    ran 24459
    Cedrikou 27628
    Kasumi 28956
    rachirisu 29039

    ririn 30415
    amou 32460
    MATU A 35059
    Andy 36114
    Brad 36195
    Nathan 37048
    ANDRES 37877
    superbeast13 39538


    suzuran 43162
    David 43714
    morunyan 44361
    RUBI 47336


    Floppix 51868
    deeta 52360
    BEN 52390
    Ray 53855
    Joao Viktor 57066
    Ludwig 58309
    Thanos 59055
    Tencho 59329

    Donovan 60096
    SHAORAN 60843
    34 61677
    Brendan 62483
    JOSE 62544
    Sibe 63255
     
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    Which game is your ID from (just wondering) plus this thread is just for members on here so you can trade and have a chance of winning top prize in the lottery
     
    Mine is Alpha sapphire. By now I have 3 full boxes of only wondertrade pokes and only 10 with my ID xD
     
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