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idea for VIP 6

Lightning said:
I don't think it's too far a stretch to bump it down one more time.
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Do that for usertitles, and there's no reason why the same can't be done for every other perk which does not directly involve a staff member. Which is my issue. Leaving staff members with no extra perks other than those that come with their role. And being able to partake in the discussions of decisions of the community are almost obligation for a staff member anyway. So I don't regard that as a perk as such, not in the conventional sense. It's nice to be able to give staff members something slightly different, outside of what comes directly in their role.
 
Abnegation said:
Do that for usertitles, and there's no reason why the same can't be done for every other perk which does not directly involve a staff member. Which is my issue. Leaving staff members with no extra perks other than those that come with their role. And being able to partake in the discussions of decisions of the community are almost obligation for a staff member anyway. So I don't regard that as a perk as such, not in the conventional sense. It's nice to be able to give staff members something slightly different, outside of what comes directly in their role.
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I can't speak on behalf of other staff members, but is there really a need for so many staff-only perks? I'm still doing the job because I want to help the section/forum and I'm sure that applies to a lot of other staff members too, I wouldn't care at all if the perks were shared with supporters. If someone has donated $100 to the forum then that's an incredible amount and a huge permanent help to the forum, they definitely deserve to be rewarded with at least similar perks in my mind. Something as simple as not wanting to share html user titles with a few extra members really shouldn't take priority over the money received from people donating to obtain the perk.
 
So long as Tier 6 is a minority, I don't mind what perks they have. However I worry about the usergroup getting crowded (which is actually more money for PC so yay) in the future. In the short term, great, but in the long term, I don't want to see us having to revoke perks because they become more trouble than they're worth for administrators, in relation to HTML usertitles. You know?
 
Team Fail said:
How about instead of having to ask H-Staff to set HTML for us, why not add an option to make a HTML title in the UCP that has basic formatting on it? Like, being able to add colors or applying a sparkle effect on it, or adding formatting instead of submitting a new HTML string to H-Staff every time we want it changed? And perhaps give that to staff too so it would be a bit easier for them to change it. (Kinda like, you can type in only text, but you can't add your own HTML to it - you highlight text and click a button to apply an effect to it)

ofc it'd only be visible to ranks that have HTML usertitles, but it'd make it a tad easier down the road for everyone.

(And keep in mind this suggestion isn't purely for if T6 members get it. Perhaps it can be a nice feature for the staff to have!)

The perk here: Staff have more options to choose from: font, adding a URL, a small image, etc etc.
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I asked about this a while back and got the feedback that, as it stands, it's easier to just have admins do them manually than it is to code a whole new editor into the UCP. We've a fairly organised system of asking for minor stuff like that to be done so really it's not that much hassle for anyone involved. However, were we to extend the perk beyond staff, then it may be more worth looking at. Although given that there aren't vast numbers of T6s right now, and many of the current ones are staff, it'd probably be just done via PM or something like that until it comes into higher demand.
 
Abnegation said:
However I worry about the usergroup getting crowded (which is actually more money for PC so yay) in the future. In the short term, great, but in the long term, I don't want to see us having to revoke perks because they become more trouble than they're worth for administrators, in relation to HTML usertitles. You know?
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If we make it so that users can set their own HTML usertitles, then that alleviates that problem.
 
Users aren't allowed to use HTML, and you can still do damage through using it in your user CP. So for security issues, there's reasons why members wouldn't be allowed to.
 
vaporeon7 said:
Maybe they could have a selection of a couple of different username colours, idk if that would actually work though.
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That sounds like a cool idea IMO, though we did just get our usergroup color changed...
somehow I cant see the admins going for it, but it's a cool idea
 
Abnegation said:
Users aren't allowed to use HTML, and you can still do damage through using it in your user CP. So for security issues, there's reasons why members wouldn't be allowed to.
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Personally if I drop more than $100 on something I'm sure as hell gonna treat it nicely, and be very careful with what could potentially break it.

I mean $5, yeah, it's 45 minutes wages, I could still troll my way through and not mind the $5 that I lost in the process. But for many people on here (because college-age students), $100 is like a day's wages, and I'm sure as hell not going to lose my investment because I broke it.

Livewire said:
If we make it so that users can set their own HTML usertitles, then that alleviates that problem.
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Razor Leaf said:
I asked about this a while back and got the feedback that, as it stands, it's easier to just have admins do them manually than it is to code a whole new editor into the UCP. We've a fairly organised system of asking for minor stuff like that to be done so really it's not that much hassle for anyone involved. However, were we to extend the perk beyond staff, then it may be more worth looking at. Although given that there aren't vast numbers of T6s right now, and many of the current ones are staff, it'd probably be just done via PM or something like that until it comes into higher demand.
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I remember there was a vB4 plugin (or coded, idk ask Team Fail) that could let you change your name by yourself every x days, maybe you guys could modify that some a lot and have it for that.
 
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Scarf said:
Would sharing some mod-only perks with supporters mean we'd see less output from our mods because they'd have less incentive? I think that's another point Gavin is getting to.
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buhhhhhhhh I'm sure they're chosen because they love doing what they do lol
 
Scarf said:
Would sharing some mod-only perks with supporters mean we'd see less output from our mods because they'd have less incentive? I think that's another point Gavin is getting to.
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Tier 6's with colored, HTML usertitles doesn't make any difference in regards to how I/other staff do my job, and if it does, then you probably shouldn't be staff.
 
I'm gonna have to agree with (some of) the staff on this one. They do a lot of work and as much as I'd like an HTML Usertitle, I don't think I'd lose any sleep if it remained a staff exclusive perk. I mean there are what, 16 T6 Supporters? I count 7 of them who are inactive, and 4 who are staff. Me being indifferent leaves 4. I don't know, I'm not trying to undermine the importance of said 4 supporters, just saying it might not be enough to make such a change you know. Again, no offense to anyone.
 
PEDRO12 said:
I'm gonna have to agree with (some of) the staff on this one. They do a lot of work and as much as I'd like an HTML Usertitle, I don't think I'd lose any sleep if it remained a staff exclusive perk. I mean there are what, 16 T6 Supporters? I count 7 of them who are inactive, and 4 who are staff. Me being indifferent leaves 4. I don't know, I'm not trying to undermine the importance of said 4 supporters, just saying it might not be enough to make such a change you know. Again, no offense to anyone.
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Well, my reasoning is that they said they wanted ideas for Tier 6, so I gave them some suggestions based on what I've seen people ask me about being a supporter.
 
PEDRO12 said:
I'm gonna have to agree with (some of) the staff on this one. They do a lot of work and as much as I'd like an HTML Usertitle, I don't think I'd lose any sleep if it remained a staff exclusive perk. I mean there are what, 16 T6 Supporters? I count 7 of them who are inactive, and 4 who are staff. Me being indifferent leaves 4. I don't know, I'm not trying to undermine the importance of said 4 supporters, just saying it might not be enough to make such a change you know. Again, no offense to anyone.
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I think the idea is to encourage more donations rather than to further reward the people whom have already donated to T6, that's just a handy side-effect. I personally don't care if supporters share our perks, they deserve it if they're donating such a large amount to benefit the forum and if anything it'll just brighten up PC, so I'd be all for this idea being put into place if it's still in the works!
 
AlexOzzyCake said:
I think the idea is to encourage more donations rather than to further reward the people whom have already donated to T6, that's just a handy side-effect. I personally don't care if supporters share our perks, they deserve it if they're donating such a large amount to benefit the forum and if anything it'll just brighten up PC, so I'd be all for this idea being put into place if it's still in the works!
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Ah yes, I see your point. Actually, after reading the entire thread, I see that this point has been made many times. *facepalm* *headdesk*
You're such a dweeb P12.

But yeah, putting it like that does make more sense. I guess I'll just have to remain indifferent. I mean, I definitely want what's best for PC, but the thought of donating $<confidential amount> for some perks + HTML usertitle instead of just wanting to support PC just isn't registering with me ;; (which, I'm sure, is why all of the 16 current T6s donated the extra $<confidential amount - 25>)
Everyone knows how much it is stop making yourself look more and more dweebish >_>

So it's basically like saying 2.5 html usertitles = your own friggin vB license. >_>
 
Necroposting from hell.

I'm considering donating $75 at the end of the semester if I got tons of dollabillz left over after this semester. What are the current benefits of tier 6 besides the shiny number?
 
There'a apparently a decent amount that remains a mystery for people to find out. Or so I've heard.
 
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