Incorrect Pokemon Types

[Spike Razzor]

Well Ninjask learns other moves mostly. Bugs need an almighty ruler! Like a big hard shelled bug. With good Defence, good Attack and speed boost! That would be a good combo. =3, they also need way WAY more attack power before that can even become more than pests. Im thinking 10 pp Physical move here.

 

[Frostweaver]

Well Ninjask learns other moves mostly. Bugs need an almighty ruler! Like a big hard shelled bug. With good Defence, good Attack and speed boost! That would be a good combo. =3, they also need way WAY more attack power before that can even become more than pests. Im thinking 10 pp Physical move here.

not all Pokemon needs to be completely useable in the metagame. We do see a lot of crappy water types too like Luvdisc, and normal types like Dunsparce... Grass types got Tangela, Sunflora and etc... Bug types also got its fair share for non-usable Pokemon, like Butterfree.

a Pokemon with high attack, high defense and high speed plus speed boost is not a POkemon. it's a monster then... Bug got its 10 PP physical move already, which is megahorn (deadly attack power too.) Hidden Power Bug is also very powerful, with good PP and 70 attack power (that's only 5 attack power off the almighty grass attack Leaf Blade.) If they throw in a bug attack that's similar to Aerial Ace where everyone can learn it, you'll see it everywhere very soon if such a tm exist...

bug attacks are strong against so many elements its' not even funny. But good thing is that the amount of bug attacks are limited so it is under control.

 

[Spike Razzor]

not all Pokemon needs to be completely useable in the metagame. We do see a lot of crappy water types too like Luvdisc, and normal types like Dunsparce... Grass types got Tangela, Sunflora and etc... Bug types also got its fair share for non-usable Pokemon, like Butterfree.

a Pokemon with high attack, high defense and high speed plus speed boost is not a POkemon. it's a monster then... Bug got its 10 PP physical move already, which is megahorn (deadly attack power too.) Hidden Power Bug is also very powerful, with good PP and 70 attack power (that's only 5 attack power off the almighty grass attack Leaf Blade.) If they throw in a bug attack that's similar to Aerial Ace where everyone can learn it, you'll see it everywhere very soon if such a tm exist...

bug attacks are strong against so many elements its' not even funny. But good thing is that the amount of bug attacks are limited so it is under control.

Its kind of strange how they would make attacks for only 2 Pokemon, And I never said the hard shelled Bug Pokemon hade to have good speed on it own =3, Speed Boost will only work like 5 or so times then it would have no effect like all status based moves. And I don't think low status would be work and extremely good move, and Butterfree is good in a way. Able to use Psychic moves without being Psychic type, and judging by what you said Hidden Power is super effective against something your weak against.

 

[Frostweaver]

because if Megahorn isn't trademarked on a few Pokemon, you won't see psychic, dark or bug types at all in battling...

Butterfree is a rather poor Pokemon with too low stats to be used. Having it to battle pokemon with 300-500 points higher in overall stats is going to kill Butterfree...

Speed boost won't make sense on a slow pokemon in the first place... secondly, it can make a Pokemon fast with no effort. Say you have 200 max agility at lvl 100 (which is pretty slow...) You become...

233 speed in one speed boost... and so on
267 speed
300 speed
333 speed
366 speed
400 speed after all speed boosts

400 speed is very fast. you doubled your speed with no effort in a few turns. That's deadly enough... if they did pseduohaze you you can restart the speed skyrocket procedure while attacking/buffing other categories at the same time. Speed boost is only given to 2 Pokemon who can't attack at all, so that's why it's not in the broken rank. Like give Speed boost to Gyarados and you'll imagine the terror.

 

[Kairi]

Also, just remember stats no longer have the 999 cap on them. Just thought I'd remind everyone.

 

[Dizzy]

umm , like thats pretty Algebraic and Technical dont you think?

 

[Frostweaver]

umm , like thats pretty Algebraic and Technical dont you think?

and what makes you think that Pokemon is never complicated or technical? Pokemon must be one of the hardest and most complicated game in the world...

thank goodness Bonewak is now extinct or else it'll be rejoicing in paradise in the "Legendary Rank" for the metagame along with Blocklax, Kyogre and etc...

 

[Dizzy]

Maybe because i think pokemon is for Fun , and For Little Kids who cant add without using there fingers , lol.

 

[Spike Razzor]

Speed boost won't make sense on a slow pokemon in the first place... secondly, it can make a Pokemon fast with no effort. Say you have 200 max agility at lvl 100 (which is pretty slow...) You become...

400 speed is very fast. you doubled your speed with no effort in a few turns. That's deadly enough... if they did pseduohaze you you can restart the speed skyrocket procedure while attacking/buffing other categories at the same time. Speed boost is only given to 2 Pokemon who can't attack at all, so that's why it's not in the broken rank. Like give Speed boost to Gyarados and you'll imagine the terror.

Actually, speed boost on a slow Pokemon does make sence. Think of the super Bug Pokemon I was talking about as a truck (without trailer), it takes off like a snail. But as it gains speed it becomes as a fast a normal car, prob 220 if it has turbo. And yes Gyarados with Speed Boost its like Godzilla on drugs! Oh one more thing, if Ninjask is 1 of the only Pokemon that learns it and can't attack, then why is it so good like you said?

*runs off to get Ninjask*

 

[Frostweaver]

Let's bring out Kairi's classic case...

Ninjask uses sword dance! (atk up by 2)
(opponent turn)
In between turn: speed boost (spd up by 1)
(leftover heals ninjask, if any)
Ninjask uses protect!
(oppoennt's turn but miss)
In between turn: speed boost (sped up by 1)
(leftover heals ninjask, if any)

so for every opportunity that the opponent can hit Ninajsk with, you enjoy one free agility and one swords dance. So it's either they kill you, or one agility+sword dance for you. It's the fastest and safest way to baton pass in ruby and sapphire, and speed boost is the only thing that makes Ninjask the best baton passer (therefore used in the metagame)

Speed Boost is Ninjask's life. Without it Ninjask will also go to the useless bin.

 

[Spike Razzor]

Ninjask uses sword dance! (atk up by 2)
(opponents turn:Uses move that has speed powere of 2 (Quick Attack, Extreme Speed ect.)
In between turn: speed boost (spd up by 1)
(leftover heals ninjask, if any)
Ninjask uses protect!
(opponents turn:Fly)
In between turn: speed boost (sped up by 1)
(leftover heals ninjask, if any)
(opponents turn:Fly hits)

Wow that took long....

 

[Kairi]

Q

Nobody in their right mind would use Fly/Dig/Dive. It's a poor move no matter how you look at it. Besides, Ninjask could pass that turn before the Flyer came down...

Ninjask uses Protect
Foe flew up high!
Ninjask recovers with the Leftovers!
Ninjask uses Baton Pass! Ninjask, come back! Go Rhydon!
Foe used fly!
It's not very effective...

 

[Spike Razzor]

Nobody in their right mind would use Fly/Dig/Dive. It's a poor move no matter how you look at it. Besides, Ninjask could pass that turn before the Flyer came down...

Ninjask uses Protect
Foe flew up high!
Ninjask recovers with the Leftovers!
Ninjask uses Baton Pass! Ninjask, come back! Go Rhydon!
Foe used fly!
It's not very effective...

Remeber Ninjask is still a bug, so it would be either higly effective or super effective. And you obvoiusly don't know what you were doing, using fly right away is stupid, rather use fast active moves like Extreme Speed or Arieal Ace. It would do damage while the stupid bug is sitting there using sword dance.

Anyone can switch out so why use a baton passer? it takes up space and it can't even attack. I honsetly can't see a use for that Pokemon, either than wasting time. I could just use weak moves to waste up its Protect or strike once its used it already (it will failes after the 2nd or 3ed try). And the nasty lil bug dies.

 

[Spike Razzor]

Nobody in their right mind would use Fly/Dig/Dive. It's a poor move no matter how you look at it. Besides, Ninjask could pass that turn before the Flyer came down...

Ninjask uses Protect
Foe flew up high!
Ninjask recovers with the Leftovers!
Ninjask uses Baton Pass! Ninjask, come back! Go Rhydon!
Foe used fly!
It's not very effective...

Remeber Ninjask is still a bug, so it would be either higly effective or super effective. And you obvoiusly don't know what you were doing, using fly right away is stupid, rather use fast active moves like Extreme Speed or Arieal Ace. It would do damage while the stupid bug is sitting there using sword dance.

Anyone can switch out so why use a baton passer? it takes up space and it can't even attack. I honsetly can't see a use for that Pokemon, either than wasting time. I could just use weak moves to waste up its Protect or strike once its used it already (it will failes after the 2nd or 3ed try). And the nasty lil bug dies.

 

[Kairi]

Point being, Rhydon is now out with 2x modifiers on Speed and Attack, and Baton Pass would go first so Ninjask wouldn't get hit. If you hit them with Extremespeed, good job, but it won't take it down. It will still get off that Baton Pass and make a tank, one with Megahorn nonetheless.

Aerial Ace is not a 1st turn move, it's a perfect accuracy move.

 

[jynx]

At first, ghost PM are my favourite and I thought that.......
Abra,Kadabra,Alakazam,Jynx, Cloyster and Gardevoir were ghosts.

 

[Dizzy]

OK lets use the Frostweaver System here.

This is supposed to be a discussion about incorrect pokemon types ^^ , you guys made it way off subject.

Frostweavers pokemon system is the best .......

 

[jynx]

OK lets use the Frostweaver System here.

This is supposed to be a discussion about incorrect pokemon types ^^ , you guys made it way off subject.

Frostweavers pokemon system is the best .......

What's frstweavers pokemon system?

 

[Frostweaver]

what is my pokemon system? ^_^;;

back on the big baton passing arguments, baton pass is not simply switch but also switch with the stat modifiers passed on to the new Pokemon as well. Ninjask is the fastest Pokemon already (unless paralyzed) and with speed boost it's light speed... baton pass will always go first when used by Ninjask unless the opponent uses quick attack, mach punch or extremespeed (which only extremespeed is used and there aren't that much extremespeed user... plus Ninjask got poor def but it can still withstand an extremespeed)

 

[jynx]

what is my pokemon system? ^_^;;

back on the big baton passing arguments, baton pass is not simply switch but also switch with the stat modifiers passed on to the new Pokemon as well. Ninjask is the fastest Pokemon already (unless paralyzed) and with speed boost it's light speed... baton pass will always go first when used by Ninjask unless the opponent uses quick attack, mach punch or extremespeed (which only extremespeed is used and there aren't that much extremespeed user... plus Ninjask got poor def but it can still withstand an extremespeed)

Sometimes I do think that Pokemon abilities are crazy.
Its totally unnessessary (spelling?) for Ninjask to have speed boost.