Is suicide a selfish act?

While in a depressed mindset, suicide might seem like the best option. But I do think it's very selfish. You can't ignore the harm you'll cause others. Their memory of you will forever be that you felt so much sorrow and anguish in your life that you chose to end it. What a horrible way to be remembered. You may very well be the single reason why your parents keep on keeping on. Your suicide could cause them to commit suicide as well. If they did and you could still feel guilt, would you? I would.
 
While the pain felt by those surrounding the victim is undeniable, I would not describe suicide as selfish.

It is final escape. I do not think anyone who is pushed to that edge should be regarded as greedy. It makes me queasy to think an act of suicide could be dismissed for that reason.
 
wow this is a tough one

of course people can decide all by themselves whatever they want to do with their own body, mind and soul, that is their right... but i guess suicide becomes selfish when you have people around you that love and care for you... or when other important people depend on you and what you do

what if you were all on your own, your whole family was gone already and you had no friends .... nobody you got a connection with
in that situation , i suppose there will be not many if not none people that will miss you and hurt because you are gone....
is it still selfish then?

i mean, if you are in that kind of a situation^ and you are a serial killer or something .... people might say, after you commid suicide; good riddens.... the opposite really of thinking; oh what a selfish act to go and kill yourself.
 
I don't understand why we even ask this question. Suicide does not often occur under circumstances in which an individual is in the right mental state. To frame it in terms of selfishness just seems to be...missing the point.

In the case of where one is in a stable state of mind and decides to kill themselves (not even sure this can even really happen) I still wouldn't frame it that way. Some people are really suffering. They can't go on living as they are, things are not going to get better. In which case, who is selfish... Those who want that person to remain alive in their lives, or the individual who just wants to stop the suffering?

Do not think you understand the full realm of potential suffering, how low life can really get. Besides everyone is different, every one takes events differently in their lives, and it's not a simple matter of "They're weak and selfish". Fact of the matter, if you have someone in front of you who is in immense suffering, and you're keeping them alive for your own comfort, 'love', you are the selfish one. I know I'm going off toward euthanasia here, but it is very closely related.
 
I don't believe suicide is a selfish act. It's not selfish to take your own life - the greatest gift you could ever have - it may be the result of mental issues or what-not, but it's not selfish. Sure, you're hurting others, but you're hurting yourself above all. As someone who doesn't believe in the afterlife, life is the only thing you really have. Once you lose it, you're gone forever. So if you take that away from yourself, that HAS to have a strong basis behind it. It might be wrong, and it likely is outside of certain circumstances, but I wouldn't call it selfish. I think that believing suicide is selfish is selfish in itself.

Nonetheless, it doesn't detract from the issue that if you know someone who is thinking of committing suicide, try to help them out as best you can. It's often the result of mental disorders and they should be treated.
 
I just want to say that I did not mean to imply that people commit suicide because of any single event in my previous post. Depression is complicated and isn't always easy to identify or treat, and often when someone has suicidal ideations, there isn't any one thing to blame.

I think instead of asking "is suicide selfish?" we should instead be asking more productive questions, such as "how do we increase awareness around mental health?" and "how do we make treatment more accessible?"

At the very least, what do people think of medically-assisted suicide, such as in cases where patients have a terminal illness and/or are in chronic, debilitating pain? Is that "selfish," and does it matter?

~Psychic
 
Strictly speaking as someone who has both lost an immediate family member to suicide and has had suicide attempts herself, it is easy to view it in terms of selfishness. Generally when we speak of suicide, we are not referring to 'honourable deaths' where someone willingly gives their life in order to cause immediate change for good, like pushing someone out of the way of a train and getting hit themselves, or whatever hero-death situation is present in many Hollywood movies. When we talk of suicide, we're referring to the gritty path of self-inflicted gunshots and what not - an end to whatever has caused their mental state to deteriorate.

When my father killed himself, I instantly viewed it as selfish - after all, he was my dad. I'm hardly going to chastise myself for reacting as any immediately bereaved child would act in such a situation. When you view suicide in terms of causing pain to other people, it is very easy to categorise the act as selfish, dismissive. Why would a person willingly cause harm to others, the ones they love, and put their own hurt over anything else? It's very easy to come to that conclusion and I do not blame those who do - it's a pretty common emotional response due to not framing the idea of suicide correctly. However, assigning emotional terms to suicide puts the onus on the people affected and not where the onus should be, the person who died.

My breakthrough in understanding has been through my own trials in regards to mental health. One certainly does not need such events in order to understand the situation more clearly, but that's what helped me. People with suicidal idealation do recognise the impact it may have, it's a bit dismissive of the intellectual capabilities of the person involved to say that they don't do so. We recognise how it will damage others, we're hardly emotionally void. More often than not the mere fact that we are considering the people around us has saved the lives or at least prolonged the lives of those considering suicide. Likewise, I think it's dismissive to view uniformly view suicide as a form of escapism. Escapism implies there is somewhere to go. Many suicides are the person escaping from their mental health or an outside situation, but is it really escaping when you are not jumping so much as being pushed? My point is that it is a bit cruel to paint such a complicated social transgression (which is kind of what it is once the act is over) with general terms.

Suicide is only selfish when you are considering yourself and other people over the person who actually died.

At the very least, what do people think of medically-assisted suicide, such as in cases where patients have a terminal illness and/or are in chronic, debilitating pain? Is that "selfish," and does it matter?

There is no reason to oppose it other than imposing one's ideology on people who at that point would rather die as 'themselves' than what they will likely become. At any rate, the people making the decision will be of a sound mind, or will have people acting on their behalf due to a decision made when they had a sound mind. That is generally something not afforded to the majority of people considering death. The only reservation I have about the subject is not the act of medically-assisted death itself, but those in charge of administering, particularly when it comes to the elderly. I fear that there may be situations where the old and infirm are taken advantage of. But those fears are not enough to dissuade me from my original statement.
 
While this is coming from someone who has a lot of suicide mood swings...

Honestly, saying suicide is selfish is implying our lives are not our own. While I'm not saying suicide is a good thing, which it is not, trust me, what I am saying is that it is not a selfish act. Our lives are our own. Sure, it'll cause a ton of emotional grief for anyone who was close to the person, but understand that a lot of people aren't exactly thinking clearly when they want to end their life. The mind is a very diverse space, after all.

One thing that is selfish, is people who try to snap someone out of suicide by making it all about them, and not the suicidal one. "What about me? How do you think I'll feel when you're gone?" That's going to get you nowhere, and THAT is selfish, indeed. Try another approach if you're going to try to "snap someone out of" being suicidal. Don't make it about you, make it about THEM. Remember, suicide is Game Over, so don't be selfish and change the subject to you.
 
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