Leaks/Rumors Discussion Thread

[RileyXY1]

This leak screams fake. There's no way that pre-Gen 6 Pokemon will keep their pre-Gen 6 typings/stats. I know this because Gen 5 Pokemon have their types/stats updated when banked into X/Y/OR/AS.

 

[Hikamaru]

This leak screams fake. There's no way that pre-Gen 6 Pokemon will keep their pre-Gen 6 typings/stats. I know this because Gen 5 Pokemon have their types/stats updated when banked into X/Y/OR/AS.

I think you mean all older gen Pokemon who became Fairy-types in 6th Gen. Other than Fairy-types, there were no other type reclassifications for older Pokemon.

 

[Xander Olivieri]

I think you mean all older gen Pokemon who became Fairy-types in 6th Gen. Other than Fairy-types, there were no other type reclassifications for older Pokemon.

Magenmite is Pure Electric in Gen 1, so by the same principal it wouldn't be Steel type when transferred.

 

[Hikamaru]

Magenmite is Pure Electric in Gen 1, so by the same principal it wouldn't be Steel type when transferred.

I was going to mention Magnemite, but speaking of 1st Gen and 2nd Gen I came across this:

Spoiler:

He's basically mentioning the Time Machine feature from 2nd Gen, and Pokemon Bank has the transfer from 6th to 7th Gen feature. It would be interesting if Bank had Time Machine-like features.

 

[Gulpin]

A Pokemon that can have any type combination through breeding. As much as I'd love for something like this, like above, this will most likely never happen. That's too complex for this game. A temporary type switch like Protean, Color Change, or the few moves that alter your type in battle. 1 Pokemon having access to all 18 types is a bit ridiculous.

Really it doesn't sound too complex for Pokemon.. Look at Arceus for example--it has access to all 18 types.

 

[Xander Olivieri]

I was going to mention Magnemite, but speaking of 1st Gen and 2nd Gen I came across this:

Spoiler:

He's basically mentioning the Time Machine feature from 2nd Gen, and Pokemon Bank has the transfer from 6th to 7th Gen feature. It would be interesting if Bank had Time Machine-like features.

I'm seriously doubting it. Mainly because, Pokebank so far has been stated to only work one way concerning Gen 7. Both VC and Gen 6 info says that they can only move forward and Gen 6 info doesn't say anything about them being able to move back to Gen 6.

Gen 6 Global Link is being shut down and changed to Gen 7 for new features like the host your own competition. Since trading and such is hosted through a different server they are keeping those up, but it shows that a lot of the Gen 6 specific features are being shut down. So Pokebank may get an update to no longer work with Gen 6 games the way they do now. We may have to use the transporter to port Gen 6 to Pokebank to allow us to withdraw them in Gen 7 just as we do now with Gen 5.

 

[Hikamaru]

I'm seriously doubting it. Mainly because, Pokebank so far has been stated to only work one way concerning Gen 7. Both VC and Gen 6 info says that they can only move forward and Gen 6 info doesn't say anything about them being able to move back to Gen 6.

Gen 6 Global Link is being shut down and changed to Gen 7 for new features like the host your own competition. Since trading and such is hosted through a different server they are keeping those up, but it shows that a lot of the Gen 6 specific features are being shut down. So Pokebank may get an update to no longer work with Gen 6 games the way they do now. We may have to use the transporter to port Gen 6 to Pokebank to allow us to withdraw them in Gen 7 just as we do now with Gen 5.

You do have a point, in that Verlisify's Time Machine theory may be void since 6th Gen support is getting shut down, in a similar vein to how 4th/5th Gen support was ended with wi-fi servers getting shut down. Like you said, Pokemon Bank could get patched to be unable to work with any 6th Gen features other than Poke Transporter which is the transfer feature.

Considering the trailer when it showed the supposed new summary screen with Pikachu, there's a new symbol that seems likely to serve a similar purpose to the blue pentagon that 6th Gen had. Which essentially means that everyone has to start fresh again when it comes to most competitive battles.

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

Time for another leak I found from 4chan:

Spoiler:

This is information sent to me from a friend who works for a certain gaming site, claiming to have received emails informing him about New Pokemon, emails that seem structured like something from the official Sun and Moon site. There were eight profiles sent to him, resembling the profiles seen on the site more or less, and are of the evolutions of the Alola Starters as well as five additional Pokemon. These will apparently be the ones revealed on August 1st.


Spectrix
Four-Eyes Pokémon
Grass/Flying
2'11"/19.8 lbs.
Overgrow

Spectrix is the Evolution of Rowlet. It has an aloof and highly curious nature, constantly observing everything around it even in the middle of battle!

From the moment it evolves Spectrix sports a pair of glasses carved from wood that seem to be permanently attached to its face, somehow these wooden spectacles give it unmatched vision. Even on a night without a moon it can spot prey from over a mile away, firing off a feather with pinpoint accuracy before the target has a chance to react!

Spectrix is an extremely intelligent Pokémon and is always observing something, rotating its head around in a complete circle to take in its surroundings. Sometimes it gets a bit distracted when something catches its eye, but will quickly spin its head back around if an attack is incoming and dodge it. Don't stress if it appears to be ignoring you, no matter where it's looking it always is listening to its Trainer's commands.

Spectrix learns the move Lock-On, ensuring that the next attack it uses won't miss even if the opponent takes to the skies or dives beneath the waves!

Foeline
Snatch Cat Pokémon
Fire/Dark
2'7"/26.5 lbs.
Blaze

Foeline is the Evolution of Litten, gaining the Dark-type. Only the maturest of Trainers can handle its fickle temperament, but many aren't up to the task. Are you?

When Litten evolves into Foeline it stands up and experiences a massive personality change, suddenly become rambunctious and callous towards those around it. It's believed this change in personality is due to an upset stomach caused by the oils from its fur, but the true explanation behind such a surprising change is still unknown.

Many Foeline roam the Alola Region on their own, their Trainers giving up on hoping to tame their unruly nature. They're considered a problem in large cities due to their tendency to steal food from stalls, so many stores keep a Rockruff on guard to chase them away. When chased they wrap their tail around their waist like a belt to escape capture!

When Foeline evolves it learns the Dark-type move Snatch. If you think your opponent is about to power their Pokémon up with a move, this attack will let Foeline steal the effects for itself! No matter how fast your opponent is, Foeline will always move first when using Snatch!

Pierreo
Performer Pokémon
Water
3'03"/45.1 lbs.
Torrent

Pierreo is the Evolution of Popplio. Pierreo is a performer through and through, more interested in showing off than defeating the opponent. Don't underestimate it, however, or it'll have the last laugh!

Pierreo might look like it's crying, but don't feel bad for it because it's actually having a great time! Those tears are actually small jewels embedded in its body that allow Pierreo to control water like streamers, wrapping itself up in a beautiful veil that sparkles in the sunlight. The jewels become more powerful if Pierreo is making others laugh, even at its own expense, so it's always looking for new ways to excite its audience. Every battle with Pierreo becomes a stageshow!

Pierreo doesn't like to fight with its full strength if it can avoid it so it focuses on moves such as Tickle and Fake Tears that throw the foe off their game allowing Pierreo to take things at its own pace.

Mangoos
Loitering Pokémon
Normal/Dark
3'07"/31.2 lbs.
Stakeout/Strong Jaw

Mangoos is a Dark-type Pokémon that evolves from Yungoos. Mangoos hangs out near areas where other Pokémon gather and finds the most obnoxious place it can think of to permanently inhabit, crouching down and glaring at everyone that passes by. Its true intentions are so obvious that most Pokémon ignore it and pass on by, but Mangoos never gives up no matter what and continues to lie in wait until a Pokémon happens to move too close. It will also give up if a larger Pokemon gets annoyed with it and chases it off.

The Pokémon that Yungoos and Mangoos were brought into Alola to chase out have since become nearly extinct, and they themselves are now considered a pest. The fangs that decorate Mangoos' knuckles are said to be the remains of the Pokémon it hunted, these makeshift brass knuckles useful when scavenging as they can tear through the toughest of hides. Mangoos' acts bored since its old prey isn't around anymore but they enjoy picking fights with other unruly Pokémon so Trainers should keep them apart from Pokémon with similar attitudes.

Mangoos learns the new Dark-type move Knuckle Bite, a powerful attack that can cause the opponent to flinch! The Ability Strong Jaw makes this attack even more powerful!

Mokuto
Star Mole Pokémon
Fire/Ground
2'04"/23.3 lbs.
Cool Off/Speed Boost

Mokuto is a Pokémon that can only be found in Pokémon Sun.

Mokuto is a subterranean Pokémon that makes its home deep beneath the earth, its body covered with a special type of fur that allows it to withstand extremely intense heats. It particularly likes the areas in Alola near volcanoes and digs its burrows nearby, occasionally digging right beneath a hot spring and becoming a nuisance to visitors who are taken by surprise when it interrupts their bath by splashing out of the water. It's too cute to stay mad at though and has become a mascot of sorts attracting tourists.

Mokuto's star-shaped body folds up and it faces backwards when it digs through the earth, shooting an intense blast of fire from its mouth to propel itself through the earth like a meteor. It can only see what's behind it while digging but it has an internal navigation system that allows it to accurately determine the direction it's moving in, though it will smash through anything in its path without even noticing including other burrowing Pokémon such as Drilbur and Onix. Because of this other Pokémon have learned to listen for it and move out of its way when it comes blazing by.

Mokuto may have the Cool Off Ability, a new Ability that no Pokémon has ever possessed before. The Cool Off Ability makes Mokuto immune to Water-type attacks and increases its Defense when hit by one, but in return its Speed is lowered.

Ickle
Pickling Pokémon
Poison
1'00"/3.5 lbs.
Ferment/Liquid Ooze

Ickle is a Pokémon that can only be found in Pokémon Moon.

Ickle is an aquatic Pokemon that cannot stand the salinity of the ocean so it slowly crawls its way onto land, leaving a trail of strong-smelling liquid as it inches along. Some people consider the smell to be appetizing, but in its purest form the liquid Ickle emits is extremely toxic so avoid touching it at all cost! Ickle's body is composed mainly of this liquid and it can completely deflate itself to squeeze through the tightest of spaces to seek shelter or escape predators. Despite being a puny Pokémon Ickle is amazingly sturdy, no matter how much damage it takes it's capable of regenerating its body even if only a speck remains!

Ickle's slime can be refined into a variety of products, the most popular being a special vinegar that can keep vegetables fresh for a century. Its slime was once used as ink long ago, ancient poets so taken by the enduring creature that countless poems have been written about the Pokémon describing it as one of the most beautiful creatures in all of nature. It's very humble however.

Ickle can have the new Ferment Ability, an Ability that no other Pokémon has had before. When Ickle inflicts the Poisoned status condition to an opponent the health they lose is then absorbs by Ickle restoring its own health.

Winbat
Acrobatic Pokémon
Fighting/Flying
1'08"/7.2 lbs.
Stack Up

Winbette
Acrobatic Pokémon
Flying/Fighting
1'04"/5.0 lbs.
Stack Up

Winbat and Winbette are a pair of Pokemon that are almost inseparable, when you encounter one the other is usually not far behind. Winbat is a species of Pokémon that is exclusively male while Winbette is a species of Pokémon that is exclusively female, though they look similar they are different from one another when it comes to what kind of moves each one can learn and how they fight. But their true potential is only unlocked when they fight as a team!

Winbat trains its upper body every day by swinging from tree to tree and swimming laps around the island that it lives on. Despite its small size its arms are unusually powerful, capable of crushing boulders many times larger than itself. The flaps of fur beneath its arms allowing it to briefly fly through the air, though only for a few seconds. Winbette may be smaller than Winbat but it makes up for this with its superior flying abilities, if it leaps from a high enough cliff it can glide between islands! It's also very nimble and flexible, able to contort its body to fit through tiny spaces and avoid attacks.

Winbat and Winbette spend each morning training by themselves, but the other half is spent practicing their teamwork. Winbat throws Winbette high up into the air where it performs graceful stunts and then falls back down to earth, its partner catching it right before throwing it back up into the air. The two depend on each other for survival, Winbat needing Winbette to help find enough food to satisfy its intense appetite while Winbette depends on its partner to protect it from enemies. If the two were to be separated from one another for more than a day they would be in huge trouble!

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Winbat and Winbette share the new Stack Up Ability, an exclusive Ability unique to them. When the two take part in a Double Battle they leap atop one another and share their strength, Winbat gaining Wibette's Speed and Winbette gaining Winbat's Attack!
We'll see August 1st. My source hasn't seen said Pokemon himself, he was just sent this text.

 

[EC]

Right, guess we'll see in a few days.

 

[Hikamaru]

So this is interesting... I was hoping we'd get more evolutions revealed soon along with a version-exclusive duo so that could be promising.

The starters' middle evolutions (Spectrix, Foeline and Pierreo) descriptions seem very likely to also match up with those final evos leaked on the concept art. Kinda odd that Popplio remains pure Water while the other two have secondary types, but maybe Popplio's line doesn't gain the presumed Fairy-type until it's fully-evolved.

Yungoos evolution is Normal/Dark? Another new type combination that I'd love to see, even if it's unfortunately 4x weak to Fighting. The three new abilities mentioned all seem interesting, especially Cool Off completely nulling a Water weakness for a Ground-type.

Those blurbs would look like something from the official site, but we'll see on Monday if this leak is real or not.

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

There's also this video that could give this 4chan leak credibility:



Oh, and do you guys think Ickle could be the sea cucumber from Chinese leak?

 

[Z25]

I've been watching this 4chan leak. I still don't buy the starter evolutions. They have been to piggybacked.

When one leak is piggybacked off of another, it almost never ends up true. Let's look at the most recent one, being the owl, fire thing, and seal thing leak for starters. Yes we got animals like those as the starters, but designs were nowhere near accurate.

The same thing happened with all the Smash bros 4 leaks. The only real ones, were the ones with unexpected choices like Shulk or duck hunt, etc.

So I'm still skeptic and am leaning towards fake with it. But I'll give the leaker this, if fake he did some good observations on how GF would make mons.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

Poets writing poems about the beauty of a slime Pokemon sounds so ridiculous it has to be true.

 

[MrGriszell]

Time for another leak I found from 4chan:

Spoiler:

Can you give me a link to the leak please :)

 

[Z25]

Can you give me a link to the leak please :)

Here you go:

http://boards.4chan.org/vp/thread/27376543/august-1st-sm-pokemon-profiles

 

[Desert Stream~]

So the first leak in this thread is pretty much confirmed fake? We didn't see any of the stuff it said we would in the last reveal. (I'm kinda glad, i hated most of the ideas anyways)
I think the starter evolution leaks are fake too. Doesn't really seem to fit with the other stuff we've seen.

 

[MrGriszell]

So the first leak in this thread is pretty much confirmed fake? We didn't see any of the stuff it said we would in the last reveal. (I'm kinda glad, i hated most of the ideas anyways)
I think the starter evolution leaks are fake too. Doesn't really seem to fit with the other stuff we've seen.

How was it confirmed fake?

 

[Desert Stream~]

How was it confirmed fake?

They said that the next video to come out (The last one with the 4 new pokemon + the 2 we knew about) would have all the information in the 1st post, but it did not.

 

[MrGriszell]

They said that the next video to come out (The last one with the 4 new pokemon + the 2 we knew about) would have all the information in the 1st post, but it did not.

Which info did the video leave out?

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

How was it confirmed fake?

He's talking about this leak. It mentioned we were getting a capybara and a gorilla for July's video, but that didn't happen.