Midnight Crew Mafia: Scratched [EPILOGUE]

[Desinishon]

[VT] Elektra Heart

 

[jdthebud]

[kill] Elektra Heart

 

[Luzu]

Just because Bac loves chickens doesn't mean he'll taste like one ;)

Damn. I was really hoping he would!

 

[Omicron]

Ok, let's see what we get.

[lynch] elektra heart

 

[KetsuekiR]

This sounds promising. If Catman is telling the truth, that'll confirm two townies.

[Lynch] Elektra Heart

 

[Salzorrah]

Candy, JohnnyMustang, aeternum, Superjolt, Rowlet, Zehn, Lisia, Elektra Heart, and Lost have yet to vote.

aeternum, and Elektra Heart need to vote today, or they will be replaced.

 

[Nina]

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well then. I am now currently buying it.

[LYNCH] Elektra Heart

 

[esperance]

alrighty [vote] Elektra Heart

 

[Superjolt]

I feel like the solo kid just didn't send in their choice, and they probably now have an almost impossible win condition. Either that or some wacky stuff is happening.

Yes, this was my thought too

I could agree with this.

So...
we gotta vote eventually. Uhhhh...

Why so hesitant?

There has been very little happening today, who should we vote for? I had a minor FOS on Lost but I don't think it's enough to lynch.

[Vote] no one for now.

edit: arg can't vote one today since I did that yesterday.

I have no issue with the reasons you have for FOSing Lost, it's way better than anything that anyone else was putting forth and the reasoning itself isn't bad. I do have an issue with your hesitance to vote though. The first valid reasoning put forth for suspecting someone isn't enough for a vote?

Again, why Lost? :/ Such a lazy sus you guys...

Why? Sure, the reasoning is sort of stretchy but at least it's actual reasoning. ...it's not like you even came forth with any alternatives/suspicions of your own?

The super quick defense of Lost from just a small bit of suspicion feels unwarranted and kind of weird

I haven't abastained, so I'll [vote] no one today. Lost is a very lazy bw in my eyes.

You too, why so quick to defend? (also see question under quote below)

Lost is a minor FOS for me, so I'd rather vote for someone more scummy.

Looking back at yesterday, I saw that Zehn claimed to be an investigative role of some kind, and I thought it probably had to do with looking into dead people. Omicron thought he could be Trace, which is a Felt role, so he could be a worthy target?

Haven't forgotten about this either

@Omi, do you still feel the same way about Zehn's claim?

Yeah not buying it.

[vote]CatmanDaTrainer

This vote... it bugs me (though I'm going through and typing these responses having already seen Catman's claim, so might be a little biased here)

Nina why.

I guess it's confession time. I am Terezi Pyrope. Now aligned with the Midnight Crew, I can learn one player's alignment per night phase. Do you want more proof? Here it is.

Elektra Heart is a member of The Felt.
JohnnyMustang is a Troll.
Superjolt is Midnight Crew.

Now lynch me if you want. I'm bleeding anyway. Just know that you'll be wasting a kill.

[LYNCH] Elektra Heart

Why did you have to out me xD

[Kill] Elektra Heart

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Johnny, you're pretty much outed as town now too, your thoughts so far?

 

[Nina]

Wow, reading too deep into stuff much.
Didn't want someone to just randomly die until we had more info or a more malicious sus but we can't just no-vote our way to victory. So I went with one that made a little more sense.
More information was given, so now I can make a more informed vote.

Still weird that Catman was gonna take his info to the grave and vote for an unknown on a whim but, it's more information than we had before.

 

[Superjolt]

Wow, reading too deep into stuff much.
Didn't want someone to just randomly die until we had more info or a more malicious sus but we can't just no-vote our way to victory. So I went with one that made a little more sense.
More information was given, so now I can make a more informed vote.

Still weird that Catman was gonna take his info to the grave and vote for an unknown on a whim but, it's more information than we had before.

Just trying to get a better read on you. It's fine if you wanted to get more info before deciding on a lynch target. My issue is that you came in and defended the first person to get a little heat, but didn't do anything else to try and get more info. If you're town, you do realize how weird things will look if Lost flips scum?

Your point on Catman is understandable though. What do you think about Zehn's claim in comparison?

Also what do you think about Luzu?

 

[Omicron]

You too, why so quick to defend? (also see question under quote below)

Haven't forgotten about this either

@Omi, do you still feel the same way about Zehn's claim?

That is far from a defense of Lost. It just really felt like a very lazy bandwagon, sussing Lost because he suggested that we should find out who the kid flying solo is. Not even killing, like jd said. Just finding out. I've been very busy irl so I couldn't really expand on that. That's beside the point that the kids are probably the most powerful and dangerous roles of all, so a third party kid is very dangerous. Any of them, with the exception maybe of Jane in this case.

And yes, if there's a gravedigger in the game, I'm 90% sure that it's gonna be Trace. Trace can follow people in the past and see what they were doing. He could follow the corpses to the past to see who they were.

 

[Luzu]

I ..... don't even know what I was backing Lost up with. Does anything that happened even matters anymore I don't even know lol.

 

[Superjolt]

I'm with you on this one: like Merlin said, Catman's claim sounds legit, plus I can confirm that I am indeed a troll and I'm guessing he's right about you being midnight crew, otherwise you wouldn't buy it.

Yes, that's correct :)

That is far from a defense of Lost. It just really felt like a very lazy bandwagon, sussing Lost because he suggested that we should find out who the kid flying solo is. Not even killing, like jd said. Just finding out. I've been very busy irl so I couldn't really expand on that. That's beside the point that the kids are probably the most powerful and dangerous roles of all, so a third party kid is very dangerous. Any of them, with the exception maybe of Jane in this case.

It is kind of a subtle defense though, isn't it? There wasn't even a bandwagon, it was just minor suspicion from two people (jd and Catman). It was mostly just something I picked up on (i.e. possible connection if Lost does end up flipping Felt scum). Didn't consider that about the Kids' roles, but I still think it's a little early to say, we would have to see what happens at night. (If it is a concern though, I already said I thought it could be aeternum if it was someone inactive who never picked a side, because everyone else has been active otherwise in the UG afaik)

What do you think about Nina?

And yes, if there's a gravedigger in the game, I'm 90% sure that it's gonna be Trace. Trace can follow people in the past and see what they were doing. He could follow the corpses to the past to see who they were.

I agree, I couldn't really think of anything else that would fit (except maybe Tavros judging from the description, or Terezi, but Catman claimed as Terezi)

 

[Omicron]

It is kind of a subtle defense though, isn't it? There wasn't even a bandwagon, it was just minor suspicion from two people (jd and Catman). It was mostly just something I picked up on (i.e. possible connection if Lost does end up flipping Felt scum). Didn't consider that about the Kids' roles, but I still think it's a little early to say, we would have to see what happens at night. (If it is a concern though, I already said I thought it could be aeternum if it was someone inactive who never picked a side, because everyone else has been active otherwise in the UG afaik)

What do you think about Nina?

I agree, I couldn't really think of anything else that would fit (except maybe Tavros judging from the description, or Terezi, but Catman claimed as Terezi)

Ok, yeah. My bad on that part, I posted on what I remembered without rereading some of the posts and was sure people had already voted for Lost. Yes, there was no bandwagon. I still find it a terrible suss on lost for that comment, though. And, eh, I wouldn't count as a slight defense, because it had nothing to do with Lost's action, but jd's. I find a FOS on Lost for that action is very weird, misleading even, like Johnny suggested.

I agree on the kid possibly being aeternum.

I'm not sure on Nina. I haven't played many games with her, so I'm not aware of her usual playstyle. I don't read her particularly scummy, but I don't read her particularly towny either. Maybe very slightly town, but I'm not 100% on that yet.

Tavros wouldn't make sense canonically as a gravedigger, though. I still firmly believe that the gravedigger's gotta be Trace.

 

[Superjolt]

I ..... don't even know what I was backing Lost up with. Does anything that happened even matters anymore I don't even know lol.

What do you think about the players involved in the thing about Lost? (namely Nina, Omi, jd and well... Lost?)

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Catman, in case you don't survive, who do you find suspicious (besides Lost)?

Ok, yeah. My bad on that part, I posted on what I remembered without rereading some of the posts and was sure people had already voted for Lost. Yes, there was no bandwagon. I still find it a terrible suss on lost for that comment, though. And, eh, I wouldn't count as a slight defense, because it had nothing to do with Lost's action, but jd's. I find a FOS on Lost for that action is very weird, misleading even, like Johnny suggested.

I agree on the kid possibly being aeternum.

I'm not sure on Nina. I haven't played many games with her, so I'm not aware of her usual playstyle. I don't read her particularly scummy, but I don't read her particularly towny either. Maybe very slightly town, but I'm not 100% on that yet.

Tavros wouldn't make sense canonically as a gravedigger, though. I still firmly believe that the gravedigger's gotta be Trace.

Ok, fair enough. I kind of like your response for now. (I think Johnny was talking about Luzu, not Lost, though)

Sort of in the same boat going back and forth on Nina. Maybe take a look at Nina's play in Touhou Mafia if you get the chance. I do think her posts earlier in the day are a little strange coming from her... but not sure.

Spoiler:

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Are you guys gonna speak up or what?

 

[Luzu]

What do you think about the players involved in the thing about Lost? (namely Nina, Omi, jd and well... Lost?)

I had to look back and reread the whole thing about Lost and last I checked I said that we should only find the solo person if we think he's a threat to the innocents. If they're only a threat to the mafia or non-threatening then we have other people we need to go find instead. I believe Omi was kinda right up that alley? We should see who the third-party could be, but it shouldn't be our priority. Whether or not you believe that's suspicious is up to you guys.

That said, jd finding Lost suss 'cause they want to prioritize finding the third-party when we have little to go off of concerning them sounds fine. Same with anyone else who think that prioritizing the third-party is to distract from the mafia. Which could very well be possible.

As for Lost herself other than them being third-party unless they have an idea as to why we should prioritize them other than they're flying solo then it's a little suss. I agree with that, but we should keep that solo guy in mind.

 

[Candy]

Are you guys gonna speak up or what?

*coughtotallydidn'tforgetaboutthegamecauseIspenttoomuchtimeonaboardgameforweebscough*

I do want to know more about this third party kid, honestly. I mean, at this point it's probably aeternum, idk. But eh, we might need to see a night or two to figure out what their role is.

Also, don't forget about the homocidal clown, guys.

Anyway, easy lynch today. [KILL] Electra Heart

 

[Superjolt]

About what? I already put in my vote and everything since then has been wild accusations and guesswork, so I don't know what you're asking my opinion for. Although, since there is a raging debate, I suppose I should stick a pinky toe into it, yeah?

Alright then. I think Lost may have been concerned about a serial killer / cultist sort of deal with the one rogue kid, which may be a valid concern. Or not. Time will tell on that. Point is, it's not worth lynching her over. I am a little suss of you for being so quick to harass Lost over such a trivial detail, and I'm less suss of Omi at the moment.

You wanted my two cents? Now you got them. Now excuse me while I scheme up the next crazy event for Community, along with planning out my two upcoming games :P

...I honestly didn't remember you posting anything, even after I looked over the past couple pages earlier (well, not that it's a good sign that I can't remember someone's posts anyway, but... meh). If you thought the points and accusations being brought up were silly/stupid you should have spoken up.

I didn't harass Lost btw. I never even interacted directly with Lost. Are you actually reading? I've been interacting with Nina and Omi. (Also if you actually are reading, you would know that sussing me at this point is silly).

This post almost sounds forced too. Like, my initial reason for giving you the notification was because I thought you hadn't posted yet, so you could have just said "yo, I did post today" or something and it wouldn't have been a big deal. Instead you make it sound like I'm forcing you to "get in on the current debate" when that's not the case. That part of my post was more "heyyy are you guys gonna post something?" I never asked for specifics, I just wanted more people to start posting

But now I do actually have some questions for you :P
1) You said you're "less suss of Omi" now (implying you were sus of Omi at some point), what made you suspicious before?
2) What do you think about Nina, Luzu and jd?
3) What do you think about Lost aside from her one post earlier?
4) What do you think about Zehn's claim from D2?

 

[Superjolt]

first off... oops. that's what I get for not paying attention. Second off, when I say less suss, I suspect EVERYONE in mafia games until confirmed innocent. So sorry Jolt.

Okay, let's look at that laundry list you got there... and oh look at that, first one already answered, kind of. Omi's objections to your accusation felt quite reasonable. As for Lost, I do believe I said her concern could have some validity - it's a little odd, but not completely out there that she would say this. Perhaps she has info we don't? Hard to tell - I know I myself was pondering whether or not the lone kid might have a dangerous role.

lol, laundry list xD sorry btw, that last post sounds a bit harsher than I intended :(

I agree about Omi. I don't have much issue with what Lost said (though I don't think the reasons for suspecting her were bad either). Ultimately I feel like my read of Lost will end up being based on the alignments/flips of certain others so she sits at full null for now.

How do you feel about Lost ignoring the conversation that revolves around her?

I feel like both Nina and Luzu brought up good points, I have no idea what to think of Lost (it is reasonable to think a bleeding mafia would have nothing left to lose and claim cop, but at the same time, it's SOMETHING) and Zehn claimed something? Great, time to backtrack.

*hops into time machine to review comments*

Okay then. Ah, gravedigger. I don't recall him saying the identity of a corpse today. So... could be B.S.? No evidence to support that so far, so I have no opinion on the matter.

It does throw me off that my one scumread has been confirmed innocent... oops. I'll need some time to form a new scumread.

What is your read on Nina so far? (Not sure who the bold is referring to btw)

Superjolt is confirmed town, Bard. Lol

Johnny, how do you feel about Luzu now that she clarified her position (a few posts above)?

*coughtotallydidn'tforgetaboutthegamecause
Ispenttoomuchtimeonaboardgameforweebscough*

I do want to know more about this third party kid, honestly. I mean, at this point it's probably aeternum, idk. But eh, we might need to see a night or two to figure out what their role is.

Also, don't forget about the homocidal clown, guys.

Anyway, easy lynch today. [KILL] Electra Heart

Candy, I want to see you say more words about more things plz