Moveset Help & Other Questions

[PlatinumDude]

Cool. :) I've been wondering this for a while: what is thunderbolt used to hit?

(Mega) Gyarados and Mandibuzz, mainly.

 

[Gible]

(Mega) Gyarados and Mandibuzz, mainly.

is Mega Gyarados even that common? I feel like there's a plethora of better mega evos to use. o.o

 

[PlatinumDude]

is Mega Gyarados even that common? I feel like there's a plethora of better mega evos to use. o.o

Mega Gyarados is a rather common sight in OU. The very reason why it's viable is because regular Gyarados can hold off of Mega Evolving until the right moment, given the differing typings of the regular and Mega forms. Regular Gyarados can make use of its Water/Flying type to take advantage of its Bug and Fighting resistances to set up Dragon Dance, for instance, as Mega Gyarados is weak to those types. It can also lure in Wash Rotom with the regular form, then Mega Evolve to strike it with Mold Breaker Earthquake.

 

[Gible]

Mega Gyarados is a rather common sight in OU. The very reason why it's viable is because regular Gyarados can hold off of Mega Evolving until the right moment, given the differing typings of the regular and Mega forms. Regular Gyarados can make use of its Water/Flying type to take advantage of its Bug and Fighting resistances to set up Dragon Dance, for instance, as Mega Gyarados is weak to those types. It can also lure in Wash Rotom with the regular form, then Mega Evolve to strike it with Mold Breaker Earthquake.

Ahh makes sense. I like Scrappy Kangaskhan/Mega Khan for a similar reason. I don't feel the need to explain because you seem quite educated in Pokemon so it'd just be a waste of time. As you can probably tell from my other posts, I mostly play Ubers Tier :P.

 

[RickyMeister]

If you're using Blaziken, Speed Boost is mandatory. Otherwise, it plays like a worse Infernape like it did in D/P/Pt.

Thanks for the help i just hatched a shiny and it had the perfect ivs but no speed boost ;(

 

[Nah]

Thanks for the help i just hatched a shiny and it had the perfect ivs but no speed boost ;(

If you have the mega stone for it, you can use that to circumvent the problem; Blaziken gains Speed Boost upon mega evolving.

 

[lashex]

Not necessarily, you can run it as a more bulky Pokémon. You could try this set:

Charizard@CharizarditeX
Nature: Jolly
Ability: Tough Claws
EVs: 252 Speed/136 HP/120 Atk

Will-O-Wisp
Roost
Flare Blitz
Dragon Claw

This is a more bulky set that allows CharX to take more hits and then Roost off the damage, and cripple physical attackers with Wow.

oh ok that would be good but then ill have to choose a differnt sweeper wouldnt i?i am thinking of breeding a timid charmander and the trading the Y mega stone for him

 

[PlatinumDude]

oh ok that would be good but then ill have to choose a differnt sweeper wouldnt i?i am thinking of breeding a timid charmander and the trading the Y mega stone for him

Going by species clause, only 1 Charizard can be on the team, but you may already know that.

Anyway, here's the ideal set for Charizard Y:
-Fire Blast
-Solar Beam
-Focus Blast
-Dragon Pulse/Roost
Nature: Timid/Modest
EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Charizardite Y

 

[WingedDragon]

Has anyone else had trouble downloading their digital download for Friendly this weekend?

 

[UB3R_N00B]

So finally got my final ingame team together and now I am just leveling and teaching the moves and working my way to the elite four, I got 5 badges at the moment and at the 6th getting ready to enter! I am posting this just to get input and if you guys think this team will serve me well throughout the game! Keep in mind I wanted to spread all HMs theough my team so the HMs will NOT be removed from my movesets! But anyways here it is:

Please Note: My Mawile is my mega of choice but I cant get Mega Mawile stone until after the elite four so unfortunately I won't have any Mega Pokémon until after I complete the Elite Four and find the stone for her!

Mishima (Greninja)[Female]: Moveset - Surf, Waterfall, Extrasensory, Grass Knot
Lynx (Linoone)[Female]: Moveset - Return, Strength, Dig, Shadow Claw
Katzuko (Talonflame)[Female]: Moveset - Roost, Brave Bird, Fly, Flare Blitz
Cthulu (Malamar)[Female]: Moveset - Cut, Night Slash, Psycho Cut, Hypnosis
Venus (Mawile)[Female]: Moveset - Power-Up Punch, Iron Head, Play Rough, Sucker Punch
Frostbite (Mamoswine)[Female]: Moveset - Ice Shard, Ice Fang, Earthquake, Rock Slide

On my Mawile, I swap Power-Up Punch for False Swipe when I go to catch Pokémon then switch back after my catching is complete! I don't use False Swipe for trainer battles, once I am out of the battle with the wild Pokémon and it was successfully caught I remove False Swipe for my Power-Up Punch! It works nicely with Malamar's Hypnosis! :D

What do you guys think? Will I be okay ingame?

Thanks so much!

UB3R_N00B

 

[Nah]

So finally got my final ingame team together and now I am just leveling and teaching the moves and working my way to the elite four, I got 5 badges at the moment and at the 6th getting ready to enter! I am posting this just to get input and if you guys think this team will serve me well throughout the game! Keep in mind I wanted to spread all HMs theough my team so the HMs will NOT be removed from my movesets! But anyways here it is:

Please Note: My Mawile is my mega of choice but I cant get Mega Mawile stone until after the elite four so unfortunately I won't have any Mega Pokémon until after I complete the Elite Four and find the stone for her!

Mishima (Greninja)[Female]: Moveset - Surf, Waterfall, Extrasensory, Grass Knot
Lynx (Linoone)[Female]: Moveset - Return, Strength, Dig, Shadow Claw
Katzuko (Talonflame)[Female]: Moveset - Roost, Brave Bird, Fly, Flare Blitz
Cthulu (Malamar)[Female]: Moveset - Cut, Night Slash, Psycho Cut, Hypnosis
Venus (Mawile)[Female]: Moveset - Power-Up Punch, Iron Head, Play Rough, Sucker Punch
Frostbite (Mamoswine)[Female]: Moveset - Ice Shard, Ice Fang, Earthquake, Rock Slide

On my Mawile, I swap Power-Up Punch for False Swipe when I go to catch Pokémon then switch back after my catching is complete! I don't use False Swipe for trainer battles, once I am out of the battle with the wild Pokémon and it was successfully caught I remove False Swipe for my Power-Up Punch! It works nicely with Malamar's Hypnosis! :D

What do you guys think? Will I be okay ingame?

Thanks so much!

UB3R_N00B

Looks good to me. The only thing is maybe to remove cut from Malamar and teach it something else. Cut is a crappy move, and you hardly ever need it outside of battle. should be able to teach it Superpower, which works nicely with its Contrary ability.

 

[UB3R_N00B]

It has suction cups for future chain fishing, and I am keeping all HMs on my ingame team. I like knowing I can make it anywhere without worrying about having to go back to the pokemon center to find a cut pokemon then needing to run the whole way back. Thanks for the information though! Everything else is okay there?

 

[Nah]

It has suction cups for future chain fishing, and I am keeping all HMs on my ingame team. I like knowing I can make it anywhere without worrying about having to go back to the pokemon center to find a cut pokemon then needing to run the whole way back. Thanks for the information though! Everything else is okay there?

Oh, don't use Superpower then. I still say remove Cut. You've probably already cut down 99% of the cuttable trees in Kalos, and once you have cut them down and gotten whatever item was being blocked off, there is zero reason to cut down that tree again. And there isn't a whole lotta cuttable trees in Kalos either.

And yes, the rest of your team is good.

 

[Ω Ruby and α Sapphire]

It has suction cups for future chain fishing, and I am keeping all HMs on my ingame team. I like knowing I can make it anywhere without worrying about having to go back to the pokemon center to find a cut pokemon then needing to run the whole way back. Thanks for the information though! Everything else is okay there?

You should be fine, as long as your team isnt underleveled. The elite 4 is quite easy as long as you stack up on healing items. It would probably be easy to beat the elite four with all NU Pokémon, so I don't think you'll have any trouble.

 

[Timbjerr]

I'm building an experimental team on Showdown at the moment...one which focuses on Baton Passing a couple Swords Dances (and a few speed boosts) onto a physical Greninja to sweep late-game. I've already got:

MegaGengar:
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Wave
-Thunderbolt
-Taunt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 Sp.Def/252 Spd
Item: Gengarite

Speed Boost Scolipede:
-Protect
-Substitute
-Swords Dance
-Baton Pass
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 248 HP/208 Sp.Def/52 Spd
Item: Mental Herb

Protean Greninja:
-Waterfall
-Night Slash
-Shadow Sneak
-Rock Slide
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

...but I need some ideas for my hazard lead and the two other slots keeping in mind I've already got a bit of a psychic weakness going

 

[PlatinumDude]

I'm building an experimental team on Showdown at the moment...one which focuses on Baton Passing a couple Swords Dances (and a few speed boosts) onto a physical Greninja to sweep late-game. I've already got:

MegaGengar:
-Shadow Ball
-Sludge Wave
-Thunderbolt
-Taunt
Nature: Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 Sp.Def/252 Spd
Item: Gengarite

Speed Boost Scolipede:
-Protect
-Substitute
-Swords Dance
-Baton Pass
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 248 HP/208 Sp.Def/52 Spd
Item: Mental Herb

Protean Greninja:
-Waterfall
-Night Slash
-Shadow Sneak
-Rock Slide
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb

...but I need some ideas for my hazard lead and the two other slots keeping in mind I've already got a bit of a psychic weakness going

Mega Gengar is banned, more specifically, the Gengarite is banned. You'll have to make do with regular Gengar with Life Orb or Focus Sash. And I'd use Destiny Bond over Taunt so that any opponent that fails to get KOed by Gengar's attacks will be dragged down with it.

I wouldn't use physical Greninja if I were you. Its physical move pool is weaker than its special one; that, and 95 Attack isn't the best stat to be sweeping with. There are many slow/average-paced physical attackers that benefit from having Scolipede's Speed Boost Baton Passed to them, such as Mega Heracross, Mega Medicham, Breloom, (all three leave you more vulnerable to Talonflame), Bisharp, Excadrill, Azumarill and Mamoswine.

Mega Heracross:
-Pin Missile
-Close Combat
-Rock Blast
-Earthquake/Swords Dance
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 40 HP/252 Atk/216 Spe
Item: Heracronite
Ability: Guts/Moxie

Mega Medicham:
-High Jump Kick
-Zen Headbutt
-Fire Punch/Ice Punch
-Fake Out/Substitute
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Medichamite
Ability: Pure Power

Breloom:
-Bullet Seed
-Mach Punch
-Rock Tomb
-Spore
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb/Focus Sash
Ability: Technician

Bisharp:
-Sucker Punch
-Iron Head
-Knock Off
-Pursuit/Swords Dance
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
Item: Black Glasses/Dread Plate/Life Orb
Ability: Defiant

Excadrill:
-Earthquake
-Iron Head
-Rapid Spin
-Rock Slide/Stealth Rock
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Air Balloon
Ability: Mold Breaker

or
-Earthquake
-Iron Head
-Rock Slide
-Rapid Spin
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe (Choice Scarf) or 120 HP/136 Atk/252 SDef (Assault Vest; Adamant only)
Item: Choice Scarf/Assault Vest
Ability: Mold Breaker

Azumarill:
-Waterfall
-Aqua Jet
-Play Rough
-Superpower
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 164 HP/252 Atk/92 Spe
Item: Choice Band/Splash Plate/Mystic Water
Ability: Huge Power

Mamoswine:
-Earthquake
-Icicle Crash/Icicle Spear
-Ice Shard
-Freeze-Dry/Superpower
Nature: Naive/Jolly
EVs: 244 Atk/12 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Thick Fat

or
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Ice Shard
-Endeavor
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Oblivious

An ideal hazard lead is Deoxys (Defense or Speed):

Defense:
-Stealth Rock
-Spikes
-Taunt
-Thunder Wave/Magic Coat
Nature: Timid
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spe
Item: Red Card/Mental Herb

or
-Stealth Rock/Spikes
-Seismic Toss/Night Shade
-Taunt
-Recover
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP/244 Def/12 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet

Speed:
-Stealth Rock
-Spikes
-Ice Beam
-Knock Off/Superpower/Psycho Boost
Nature: Naive/Timid
EVs: 24 Atk/232 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Focus Sash

 

[Shrew]

I plan on using two separate Relic Song Meloetta, a Jolly and

Hasty

(I was advised to use Naive before, but I decided to just soft-reset for either Hasty or Naive nature with enough speed IVs to outspeed positive base 120 while in Pirouette.)

one. I need advice on movesets/items for both of them.

They don't have viable Hidden Power. They're not for any specific tier, and my main concern is that I don't want to transfer them over to XY and regret not having given them move tutors. Thanks in advanced. :)

 

[PlatinumDude]

I plan on using two separate Relic Song Meloetta, a Jolly and

Hasty

(I was advised to use Naive before, but I decided to just soft-reset for either Hasty or Naive nature with enough speed IVs to outspeed positive base 120 while in Pirouette.)

one. I need advice on movesets/items for both of them.

They don't have viable Hidden Power. They're not for any specific tier, and my main concern is that I don't want to transfer them over to XY and regret not having given them move tutors. Thanks in advanced. :)

The Hasty one is better because if Meloetta opts for Relic Song, it's best for it to go mixed rather than fully physical, since being walled by Gliscor and Skarmory would stink big-time:
-Relic Song
-Close Combat
-Thunder/Shadow Ball
-Psychic/Hidden Power (Ice)/Ice Punch
Nature: Hasty
EVs: 64 Atk/252 SAtk/192 Spe
Item: Expert Belt/Life Orb

 

[RickyMeister]

I need help with movesets for these pokemon:
Politoad Modest
Machamp Careful
Nidoking Modest

Was thinking of using assault vest for politoad and machamp

 

[PlatinumDude]

I need help with movesets for these pokemon:
Politoad Modest
Machamp Careful
Nidoking Modest

Was thinking of using assault vest for politoad and machamp

Machamp is best as Adamant, and anything it can do, Conkeldurr can do better.

Politoed and Nidoking, are spot-on, though:

Politoed:
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Focus Blast
-Hypnosis/Psychic/Scald
Nature: Modest
EVs: 172 HP/252 SAtk/84 Spe
Item: Damp Rock
Ability: Drizzle

Nidoking:
-Sludge Wave
-Earth Power
-Fire Blast
-Ice Beam
Nature: Modest/Timid
EVs: 4 HP/252 SAtk/252 Spe
Item: Life Orb
Ability: Sheer Force