Tool: Nameless Sprite Editor [Classic]

[FoggyDoggy]

Well, that would be a good explanation, but something tells me it's incorrect...

My Reasoning?
Look at the 'append' command near the beginning of JPAN's plugin...
It's not a number as simple as 8, no, it's a larger one, much larger.

And by database, I meant the small text file that was uploaded including the commands...

I say, if you upload something like a database, make sure you include a way to USE the documentation... I swear it's almost like 99% of C++ Tutorials, they all assume you have moderate experience with the language in question.

I dub this language, Nameless Script, or simply, NS.
Objections?

If you make more tools, you should implement this, NS into it.
Broaden, Widen, Imagine.

And finally... HELP! lol

 

[Full Metal]

Well, this is .NET so we could use reflect and look at how a plugin is handled (?)

 

[FoggyDoggy]

Well, this is .NET so we could use reflect and look at how a plugin is handled (?)

I was thinking more along the lines of just making a plugin, and putting debug lines everywhere and seeing what everything does...

Dunno if that will work either so...

EDIT
I found a bug.

If you try to load a plugin that isn't for your ROM, the program tells me I can't run it... but then I can't load any different plugins until I restart the program...

EDIT 2
My Gathered Info... (I'm still lost in the dark... where's the dev when I need him =( )

Memory      Value     Command        Comment
Blank             - No Commands
Mem(0)   &H0      - Append(F#)  //Why?
Blank             - Dump(0)     //Same Thing... Why?
Mem(0)   &H8      - Append(8)   //Distance between pokemon on the table...
Mem(0)   &H0      - Multiply(I#) //Sets Mem(0) up to read from the table...
Mem(0)   &H2350B4 - Add(&H2350b4) //Further Positions Mem(0)
Mem(0)	 &HD4FBD2 - Read(mem(0), 3) //From what I gather... table reading...
 Mem(1)	 &H2350B4
Mem(0)	 &HD2FBD4 - Flip(3)      //Sprite Pointer!
 Mem(1)	 &H2350B4
Mem(0)	 &H8      - Append(8)   //Why?
 Mem(1)	 &HD2FBD4
 Mem(2)	 &H2350B4
Mem(0)	 &H0      - Multiply(I#) //Why?
 Mem(1)	 &HD2FBD4
 Mem(2)	 &H2350B4
Mem(0)	 &H237314 - Add(&H237314) //Why?
 Mem(1)	 &HD2FBD4
 Mem(2)	 &H2350B4

Elaboration? From ANYONE, please, I really am determined to make a plugin...

 

[JPAN]

Append(num) makes that number appear in the memStack.
F# is the frame number, and I# is the index number.
so, Append(F#) makes the current frame number appear at the top of the Stack, that is Mem(0)

Dump(num) clears the memory position at Mem(num), so Dump 0 erases the mem(0) position and pushes the stack up (mem(1) becomes mem(0), mem(2) becomes mem(1)...)
Because it only had mem(0) occupied, it cleared the stack.

All arithmetic functions (Add, Multiply being examples) take the number that is at Mem(0) and applies that operation to it and a parameter.
So, in the example it multiplied by I#, which should probably be 0 at the time, resulting in Mem(0) = 8*0 = 0. The add makes mem(0) += 0x2350b4.

Read and Write are direct ROM operations, that do as the name implies. They read and Write the bytes as they appear to us, so they load/write byte by byte with the first being the most significant byte(Big Endian).
So, Read(mem(0), 3) reads the first 3 bytes of the location indicated by mem(0).

Because the GBA has it in reverse (least significant byte first, Litte endian), Flip takes the 3 bytes and reverses them, to look more like a pointer. Flip(3) flips the first 3 bytes.

A command that is not in your above post is the Image one.
Image takes as the first param the image offset, as second one the Palette offset and last the size of the image, in the format (0xWidth<<0x10 |0xheight). That is the reason the second pointer is loaded. It's the palette. Image(mem(1),mem(0), 00200020) would load the image in Mem(1), with 32*32 sprite size, with the palette indicated by mem(0).

 

[FoggyDoggy]

THAT, is the kind of reply I was looking for, something to build my own ideas off of, a reference if you will (I love references... muahaha)

Thanks JPAN.

 

[link12552]

Plugin Language

Whoa!!!
Completely missed this whole discussion...
JPAN did a great job explaining the commands though XD

But if you want an almost step by step explanation of the pokemon plug-in here it is:

Spoiler:

[BPRE] // Simply the start of the Firered block
Imax(439) // Sets the max amount of images to 439
Fmax(3) // Sets the max amount of frames to 3
//Load frame to memory
Append(F#) // Append means "load into memory" F# is to get the current frame number, so we're loading the current frame into the top of the memory stack
nout(mem(0)) // Should not be in there, XD, but nout outputs a value or a string in a msg box
// Load image differently depending on frame
If(0) // The if statements compare a value to whatever is at the top of the memory stack, we loaded the frame number into memory, so were saying "if the frame is 0"
{
dump(0) // Dumps the memory at a certain position, 0 (or the top) in this case
Append(8) // This time we are loading the number 8 into memory
Multiply(I#) // Now we are going to multiply whatever is at the top of the memory stack by the current index number (I#)
Add(&h2350b4) //Now we are adding &h2350b4 to whatever is at the top of our memory stack, The notion behind this is that all of the pokemon sprite pointers are in a table starting at 0x2350B4 (&h2350b4) and have a space of 8 between each, we are pretty much doing 8 * Index number + 0x2350B4 that little equation should give us the pointer for the given index
Read(mem(0), 3) //Reads 3 bytes out of the rom from the location we just calculated, loads them onto the top of the memory stack
Flip(3) //Flip actually flips the bytes loaded at the top of the mem stack, it flips them in groups (in this case a group of three), wee do this because were read the pointer , but it's reversed so wee flip it
Append(8) // Now we are loading another 8 onto the memory stack
Multiply(I#) // Were are again multiplying it by the index
Add(&H237314) //We are adding the offset of the pokemon palette table
}
...
...
...
Read(mem(0),3) // We are going to read the palette pointer from the palette table
Flip(3) //And again were flipping it so that it's usable
Append(I#) //Loading the index number into mem
//Check if drawing deyoxes or castform, because they draw with a different size
If!(409) // If were are not looking at deyoxes
{
If!(384) // If we are not looking at castform
{
Image(mem(3), mem(1), 00400040) // Load the image [image offset = mem(3), Palette Offset = mem(1), size = 00400040 (same as 64,64)]
// The overview of the memory stack right now is
// mem(0) = the index number
// mem(1) = the palette pointer we calculated
// mem(2) = math for palette
// mem(3) = the sprite pointer we calculated
// mem(4) = math for sprite

}
}
...
...
...
[/BPRE] // End of Firered block

The plug-in language is very abstract, and quite interesting...
It's really is a command based language, with a few twists...
And yes it's confusing, but... IT WORKS! XD

P.S.
Nameless Script is the name, so your spot on XD
You do know, there is a NS (nameless script) section in the Guide to NSE
The command list

 

[FoggyDoggy]

Hurrah!

Now that I've seen a detailed explanation of the NS System, I'm sure Ican make a few plugins...
My first one will, undoubtedly, be quite small, but I'll work up.
Also, didn't see that tut on NSE, I like it, a lot.
You've gotten my respect, and my attention.
Good Man, good man indeed.

EDIT
I HOPE YOU SAW MY BUG REPORT IN MY LAST POST

Also, 2 ideas
Resizeable Canvas
Resizeable Cursor

 

[Zark]

Wow, I didn't know that there was a tool better than Overworld editor!

 

[Lord Varion]

Wow a few months ago
i disliked this because it was hard

Now i use it all the time and i would reccommend anyone to use it :)

 

[r0bert]

how do you get to the trainer backsprite?

 

[FoggyDoggy]

how do you get to the trainer backsprite?

If you're using FR then just look in bookmarks... otherwise you'll need to manually input the pointer to it...

 

[Orinjmate]

Which offsets have the flower and water animations in Emerald?

 

[Blaziquaza]

Could I suggest a new feature to create new palettes? :D

 

[Skara]

Problem. I can only find the overworlds.

 

[link12552]

OVER/ENDED -Technical Preview!

Edit 12/9/2010: The Tech Preview is now over. A new version of NSE (1.7.5.0) will be released soon.

Spoiler:

Tech. Preview: in attachments

Seems like it's been a while... So here's a little gift ;)
​

• Draw Mode!
• Better image loading!
• Much faster (400% in some cases!)
• Better plug-in reading support.
• 16 color PNG imports
• Keyboard shortcuts
  

Note: There may be bugs, remember this is a tech preview.

Feel free to suggest new features and plug-in commands <- hint, hint,
Just not something that could be easily turned into a plug-in...

Plug-ins:

• More accurate plug-in reading (fixes the "if" problem")
• Added "while" and "Jump" commands
• Support for header categories

PNG Imports:

• "Import bitmap" becomes "Import Image"
• Imports any 16 color or less BMP or PNG

Better Image Loading:

• Better memory usage
• Loads images up to 4X bigger (Width x Height <= 65536)think 256x256 instead of 128x128

Draw mode:

• A paint bucket! (Note: Color sensitive, huge images can take a second
• A re-sizable brush!
• Undo and redo compatible

Whats included:

• The tech preview of NSE
• Several new/example Plug-ins
• A bookmark file.

Remember: This is a technical preview, what you see is subject to change...
-link12552
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[Dragonflye]

I found a bug you might interested in the.
It is as if one with German games, the size changes of a hero, then the Data1 and Data2 are misspelled.

The data looks like for the German games:

Emerald German:
16x16 = 51B22C 51B27C
16x32 = 51B244 51B2d0
32x32 = 51B24C 51B324
48x48 = 51B24C 51B384
64x64 = 51B254 51B404
88x32 = 51B21C 51B654
96x40 = 51B21C 51B524

Firered German:
16x32 = 3A35D4 & 3A3660
16x16 = 3A35B4 & 3A360C
32x32 = 3A35DC & 3A36B4
64x64 = 3A35E4 & 3A3794
128x64 = 3A35A4 & 3A3914

Rubin German:
16x16 = 37C9BC & 37CA2C
16x32 = 37C9D4 & 37CAA4
32x32 = 37C9DC & 37CB1C
48x48 = 37C9DC & 37CBAC
64x64 = 37C9E4 & 37CC4C
88x32 = 37C9AC & 37D08C
96x40 = 37C9AC & 37CE5C

The other games I have not explored, but it would be good if you could repair the ...

And sorry, I'am a German Hacker an my English ist not so good.:disappoin

 

[Sora's Nobody]

So i see you want a challenging plug-in to make. Well what about a tile editor plug-in. The only problem i see in that thought is that it might make people take the easy way only. Oh and i can't really figure out what the Browser.npi is for it just shows some black and white stuff in nse. And i can't figure out what the whiletest one is for.

 

[ElBurrito]

How do I access the pokemon sprites? I saw a ho-oh in the pictures you put up.

 

[link12552]

Responses

So i see you want a challenging plug-in to make. Well what about a tile editor plug-in. The only problem i see in that thought is that it might make people take the easy way only. Oh and i can't really figure out what the Browser.npi is for it just shows some black and white stuff in nse. And i can't figure out what the whiletest one is for.

I guess you saw my hint XD
...

Browser.npi works a-lot like tilemolster (Try index: 7380 in firered to see what I mean), it's just an example plug-in

Whiletest.npi is a demonstration of the new while function in NSE. Looping from 0 to 50 and then outputting "50" (32 in hex)

Check out the code in the example programs. open them in notepad to see what's going on! :P

P.S. the tile editing plug-in is a good great idea, although I'm having some trouble finding the pointers to the different tile-sets in the ROM. <conspicuous hint for help here people...

How do I access the pokemon sprites? I saw a ho-oh in the pictures you put up.

Goto: Options>Plugins>Select Plugin (Ctrl-N) and chose "Pokemon.npi"
-or- take the offsets from the sprite in unlz

 

[Zee Best]

Thanks, shame there isn't an option to save ALL images at once, would help me ALOT.