5th Gen New Pokemon League? Speculation!

If the protags are different from B/W (big if), then I'd like to see Hilbert/Hilda replace Alder as the Champion.

Oh, and if there are Gym Leader changes, I'd like to FINALLY see a Dark Gym. Seriously, it's long overdue. >:|
 
I don't know about new gyms but Alder.....someone bless his heart....IMO he is just too weak to be a champion....he doesn't hold that aura that intimidates and screams I'm a champion for a reason. Even Cynthia seemed like a bad***, a sweet and caring bad*** lol So I really hope they have a new champion! :D
 
I dont think the elite four members will change, but I have a feeling there may be a new champion. They did it with Emerald, changing Steven to Wallace. So maybe, they'll switch Alder out with someone, but he can still be battle-able in a cave somewhere.
 
I'm seeing Bianca as the trainer school teacher and Cheren as the new champ.
 
Actually, considering that Bianca/Cheren aren't introduced yet, I'd say he probably isn't the champion and that we'll have a whole new characterset, or it'll be one of the previous leaders.
 
At first I didn't see anything wrong with the E4 being the same once again, but since GameFreak has introduced new Gym Leaders, it would be more logical for there to be new Elite Four members now. I wouldn't mind just an adjustment to the design of the league instead of switching out the members though.

Definitely want to see Alder retire however, he's not really one of my favorite champions.
 
Can't the elite 4 be the heroes from the other 4 games with Touya as the champion?
 
Just remembered about this. When you meet Cynthia in Undella she mentions that every so often the Champions gather to battle to see who is the best. What if that wasn't just chatting from the AI and an actual hint as to what could happen in this one?

I know it doesn't directly play part with new possible league, but post game, (assuming you get to keep the Champion title) You could battle the five or Four Past Champions. Either Blue/Lance/Steven/Cynthia OR Red/Ethan/(May/Brandon)/(Dawn/Lucas)?
 
I would like to see Brycen as a member of the Elite Four, personally. Maybe replacing Grimsley. I wouldn't be too far from surprised if they made Marshal Champion, considering he was Alder's student. Though, I wouldn't be too happy about it, either.
 
AshleyKetchum said:
Can't the elite 4 be the heroes from the other 4 games with Touya as the champion?
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The only problems with that are:

1. The character is nontalking, and they've made it a point to have the champion be a part of the game to make the Elite Four more than a "well I'm done better go do that thing now" kind of thing.
2. People who used Touko will probably be upset (Take Elite Overlord and HG/SS in relation to FR/LG for example).

I would like Cheren as a champion. He can give a wistful speech about his friend who's...doing whatever the old protags are doing during this time, and then challenge you. I like Alder though, I would want him to be doing something important. Maybe have him training with the old protag?
 
I would really like to see a Tournament style Pokemon League in this one, although its not highly likely, it has a great shot in this game, considering everything seems to be more or less expected, and like XanderO said, it was mentioned in B/W by Cynthia that there is a Tournament of Champions every so often, so why not a Tournament League?
 
Toujours said:


The only problems with that are:

1. The character is nontalking, and they've made it a point to have the champion be a part of the game to make the Elite Four more than a "well I'm done better go do that thing now" kind of thing.
2. People who used Touko will probably be upset (Take Elite Overlord and HG/SS in relation to FR/LG for example).

I would like Cheren as a champion. He can give a wistful speech about his friend who's...doing whatever the old protags are doing during this time, and then challenge you. I like Alder though, I would want him to be doing something important. Maybe have him training with the old protag?
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Just cause they did not talk in the other games does';t mean they can't now. As for the e4 set up 2 could be the females and the other 2 could be males
 
AshleyKetchum said:
Just cause they did not talk in the other games does';t mean they can't now. As for the e4 set up 2 could be the females and the other 2 could be males
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The other problem I see with this is the typing of Pokemon they would have. Would they have a typing? Not a single playable character has ever been seen as a trainer who trains just one type, due to the fact that the character only has the Pokemon that the player catches. Pokemon and GF for years have always had each member of the Elite Four focus on one type of Pokemon, while the Champion can focus on one type or a mixture of types. With the Elite Four containing all of the rivals and playable characters from the original Black and White series would cause an uproar like they've never seen. Each member with a mixture of types? It goes against the entire idea of the Elite Four being the best in the type that they specialize in.

Plus, it's like Toujours said, if they favor one playable character over the other as the Champion, MANY of the opposing gender's fans would be in a massive uproar about it.

It would just be easier, and really more original, if they just kept to the same concept for the Elite Four.
 
This is a generation of change, I don't see why having one mix champ (Champ ) and one mix E4 (Cheren, Bianca's proably prof, and I doubt the other three will be multitype anyways) would be bad, actually it'll make it a whole lot tougher and a real challenge for us.
As for the gender of the champ, they could have you decide like they did with Latias and Latios in Emerald. Maybe the player watches the tv and then the games asks for the gender of the champ...
 
AshleyKetchum said:
Just cause they did not talk in the other games does';t mean they can't now. As for the e4 set up 2 could be the females and the other 2 could be males
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Wait are you saying 2 identical Hildas with different teams and 2 identical Hilberts with different teams would be the Elite 4? That makes no sense.

And I brought up the not talking because it's there for a reason. The character is supposed to be you; you project your own personality onto it and make it into what you want. Giving it a voice gives it a personality, probably not the particular one you chose for the character. That's why main character don't talk at times. That would ruin that image entirely.

Edit: Oh I get it now. But still, why in the world would they be there? There's no reason for random champions of a region to go be the Elite 4 of another region.
 
Toujours said:


Wait are you saying 2 identical Hildas with different teams and 2 identical Hilberts with different teams would be the Elite 4? T
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Noooo I meant like E4 1-Leaf E 2-Gold E4 3-May Elite4 4-Lucas

That way its even genderwise. idk just a thought to make it more interesting rather then predictable and to easy with the regular types
 
The games are still in Unova so why not have the player champ really? Also they could simply challenge you like Red did in GSCHgSs, and when the time comes for you to enter the Hall of Fame, the proffesor escorts you like Oak did in Gen I and their remakes.
 
Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:
The games are still in Unova so why not have the player champ really? Also they could simply challenge you like Red did in GSCHgSs, and when the time comes for you to enter the Hall of Fame, the proffesor escorts you like Oak did in Gen I and their remakes.
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I honestly don't want the champion of the league to be the B/W protagonists. First of all, they would have to choose one of the players and if you were a female before, but the male was the new champion, it wouldn't be right. Plus, what would they do with the other? Like Toujours stated, personality wouldn't make the best mark if they were just given one. The thing is, Red's character was made to be like that. He never spoke. And in my personal opinion, I don't think it would be fun to battle myself. Plus I would be given random Pokémon that didn't belong to me before. If the player was randomly given a type, that would be unrealistic for being a sequel.

If anyone is the most deserving of being the Unova champion, it's Cheren. He has a set personality, and his dream was to be one in B/W. It would make the most sense, especially after 2 years where all of his confusion and commitment to wanting to be the best, could be settled by this.
 
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I could see Cheren becoming Champion. He came to a pretty good conclusion about what it means to be strong, and after a couple of years he could definitely become a fine trainer indeed.

I would hope that they revamp his team a little, in that case- they'd probably drop the starter and the monkey, so as to avoid a canon starter for the protagonist. Liepard and Unfezant would have to go as well, but he could keep Gigalith and Haxorus. I could see him building a multigenerational team out of the Pokemon available in-game- Arcanine and Absol are definitely things I could see him using.

As for the Elite Four, I don't mind if they replace some or all of them, but if I had my way Caitlin would still be there. I've always liked her.
 
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