NFC - Nintendo Fan Club

So much for that indeed. This isn't looking good for online, which I believe is very important and so do most people. I don't even know what BIGS is and that's the only third party title we might see online and I don't think it will be that one, I think it's more probable to expect Metroid Prime 3 as the 7th online game. The only good thing I see in this is that there are at least going to be 7 online games this year. So now for some predictions, which 7 1st party game do you think will be online? I posted the list one page back but I'll post it again.

- Super Smash Bros. Brawl
- Disaster Day of Crisis
- Donkey Kong Barrel Blast
- Animal Crossing
- Forever Blue
- Kirby
- Mario Party 8
- Mario Strikers Charged
- Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
- Project H.A.M.M.E.R.
- Super Mario Galaxy
- Totsugeki Famicom Wars W
- Wii Health Pack
- Wii Music
 
Whew, I don't really care all THAT much if 3rd party titles don't get an online title this year, as long as I get any online games this year at all, i'm happy. ^^

/Ramble: w0000000t, SSBB has online, YAY!!!! (Been waiting for this for ages >.<)
 
Wasn't it confirmed that Animal Crossing would make use of the message baord at least? I'm sure they'd implement online (in the non-message board sense). Wild World had it. It would be weird if the next version had less features.

The Good: A faithful re-creation of a true classic; a lengthy, compelling single-player adventure.
The Bad: Doesn't automatically save progress like other Virtual Console games do; lack of rumble renders the stone of agony useless.
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Of course it's a faithful re-creation. @@ That's what we like to call a port.
OoT never automatically saved your progress. No Zelda game did. I've played OoT countless times, and played with rumble only once. Stone of Agony is not needed. Mad skillz yo. XD
 
All this online stuff with Nintendo has gotten to a point where I don't care.... really. When Robo told me today about the no online for third-party all I said was "heh". I would loveeeeee to have some good online shooter for the Wii, or have something like WiiPlay online. But it's not going to happen. Nintendo is still far too afraid to set foot in the online gaming world. They know Microsoft rules it and when they do have their online stuff most people will compare Wii online to XBox Live. So Nintendo is just going to sit in the corner and hope people won't notice it.
They are going to have their gems online, games like SSBB, Animal Crossing, Pokemon etc. But you won't see an online shooter (discounting Metroid, I know lots and lots of people want MP3:C online. But I think if it goes online they'll lack on the single player and that's what makes the games good) on the Wii for a very very long time.

This is what I'm talking about when I said Nintendo is cutting the third-party short.
 
There's more to it then being afraid of Microsoft. Nintendo's online history goes back to the NES days. Every attempt they made has failed. I can understand the reluctance.
 
I can't understand that really, DS online wasn't a failure even with friend codes and the times are different now. I could argue that there's never been a better time to start online than now. The Gamecube online failed because nobody really heard about it aside from the more hardcore crowd. Sony basically copied Microsoft's online structure except for a little different interface. Microsoft has the best online out there and even though they charge for their service the people get what they pay for. Whatever they are scared of they need to put it aside because the gamers want online, Nintendo has always been about the consumer, let's hope they deliver.
 
With the exception of the DS (which, I think went well) and the GCN (which went down due to Nintendo's piracy fears. Curse you PSO!), the rest of Nintendo's internet dealings were downloadable game services. Well, for the most part. They had a few actual internet dealies going on, but they were small. Nintendo only now got the downloadingness right with the VC.

I want online too, but I can somewhat understand their reluctance. They want the best possible time. You see any internet provider advertisement and it's about why you should get it over dialup. Dialup. People are still on dialup. If I recall (this was a few years back), only around 20% actually used the original Xbox Live's online service.
 
TRIFORCE89 said:
With the exception of the DS (which, I think went well) and the GCN (which went down due to Nintendo's piracy fears. Curse you PSO!), the rest of Nintendo's internet dealings were downloadable game services. Well, for the most part. They had a few actual internet dealies going on, but they were small. Nintendo only now got the downloadingness right with the VC.

I want online too, but I can somewhat understand their reluctance. They want the best possible time. You see any internet provider advertisement and it's about why you should get it over dialup. Dialup. People are still on dialup. If I recall (this was a few years back), only around 20% actually used the original Xbox Live's online service.
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Indeed. Sega can't do anything right anymore, except open up the GCN to piracy. And make horrible spinoffs of PSO and Sonic.

I'd imagine XBL's numbers are a lot higher now. Microsoft really nailed the online stuff with the 360. To be fair, Nintendo just isn't in the same position to make the decisions MS has to make XBL great. XBL is a lot of fun, but also very very profane and hateful. You really shouldn't be on it at all unless you're at least eighteen, and probably male. I don't think dial-up is really a factor anymore. Some have it, but those who do probably aren't the type who would own a video game console.

So yeah. As I've said before, this console cycle is so radically different from the last one, it's fun to watch. Even if that's often from afar. XD;
 
I've played very little of Sonic and the Secret Ringsso far, but I've got to say...this is the lamest thing I hae ever seen "I am the genie of the ring and in no way similar to the genie from the story of Aladdin".

I would love for Nintendo to embrace online gaming and I'm surethat they will. Third parties being denied theability to implement seems odd to me, but it's probably only temporary. Nintendo isn't stupid. They listen to their fans (Abby in particular should know who I'm referencing with that comment). They now that we are unapy with how the WFC is being hadled on the DS and the Wii. I suspect that they are making some changes. Whatever it is, hardcore players will still be disgruntled. Nintendo is not Microsoft. Online is major and they want the Wii and DS to apeal to all. Nintendo's going to want to make it friendly to people who are 18+ or male.

I like the DS's system. Not everything is code based. You can race at random in Mario Kart. I would like hubs and I would like the ability to communicate if desired. The WiiShop connects to our MyNintendo accounts. They can check our age, deny communication privleges based on age or hae some kind of section for parental approval. Even buy the ability using Wii Points.
 
TRIFORCE89 said:
I've played very little of Sonic and the Secret Ringsso far, but I've got to say...this is the lamest thing I hae ever seen "I am the genie of the ring and in no way similar to the genie from the story of Aladdin".

I would love for Nintendo to embrace online gaming and I'm surethat they will. Third parties being denied theability to implement seems odd to me, but it's probably only temporary. Nintendo isn't stupid. They listen to their fans (Abby in particular should know who I'm referencing with that comment). They now that we are unapy with how the WFC is being hadled on the DS and the Wii. I suspect that they are making some changes. Whatever it is, hardcore players will still be disgruntled. Nintendo is not Microsoft. Online is major and they want the Wii and DS to apeal to all. Nintendo's going to want to make it friendly to people who are 18+ or male.

I like the DS's system. Not everything is code based. You can race at random in Mario Kart. I would like hubs and I would like the ability to communicate if desired. The WiiShop connects to our MyNintendo accounts. They can check our age, deny communication privleges based on age or hae some kind of section for parental approval. Even buy the ability using Wii Points.
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Oh, yes, right, I meant to comment on that! TSA's sway over Nintendo is phenomenal. We can only hope that they listened to his issues with TP (which were shared by a lot of people) and that they give the Wii Zelda game in production the same attention as they're giving Zelda for the DS right now.
 
Since Andy is off hitting the books (or most likely playing GRAW2), I'm going to have to post. XD

The Friend Code system might be ok for DS games (I'm ok with adding friends that way). But if Nintendo makes it where you have to add a new FC for each and every game (like the DS) then you'll be seeing some pissed off people. I know it'll be sometime before we really know if it'll use the Wii's code or go the DS way and have to put in a code for each game (Can't use Elebits because it's not truely online, and can't use PBR because you have a handheld game tied into it). But I do hope it's only one code per system.

And speaking of pissed...
https://wii.ign.com/articles/771/771051p1.html
I don't think that guy was on his meds when he said that. Or, he might have over did it on the drugs.
I'm not going to make some long rant about how he's brain dead or whatever. All I'm going to say is, his boss (Will Wright) loves the Wii, and is making a game for the Wii.

https://gonintendo.com/?p=14287
Shiggy smiling a little more today.

https://gonintendo.com/?p=14304
https://gonintendo.com/?p=14299
And some new Super Mario Galaxy screens as well as a new trailer.
 
I agree that Nintendo is taking this FC thing a little too far. It is ok for some games on the DS, but for D/P, that's just taking it a peg down. I think the reason Nintendo is taking baby steps into the online world is because of the way they are. They are always opting for innovation over graphics,and storyline over replay. Nintendo has limited them selfs in the sense that they are limiting the graphical capabilities of the wii for a small size. Would you agree not that, PBR would look great with better 3d capabilities, and with the better graphics comes things like faster frame rate, and whatnot. They are just trying to perfect one way, before trying new ones, but i like the PSP a little mainly because of it's multimedia functions, and better 3d capabilities. Figuratively speaking if they took a step towards the shore line, they will find more water.
 
Wow, I made a lot of typos in that last comment.

So, anyone been following the Nintendo GDC keynotes? I found Kondo's to be quite interesting. I knew that OoT's Hyrule Field theme was dynamic (meaning it would change depending on where you were), but I didn't know that there were so many different combinations. I noticed them during OoT, I just have figured out what goes to what yet.

Koji makes a good argument though. Do we want music that sounds pretty or music that's easy to manipulate. I don't want orchestral stuff if it won't be dynamic. I made a custom MP3 of Dire, Dire Docks from Super Mario 64 to emphasis the dynamic transitions. It's wonderful.

Absolitude, I'm just against all GCN and Wii Pokemon titles until they up the graphics. For some reason, Nintendo thinks that we won't notice that they're just reusing the N64 Stadium models. @@
 
Please don't tell me they're reusing the N64 models for the Wii game. Please. o_o Even if you have to lie, don't tell me that. ._.;

As for the music, that's true...but I still feel like orchestral music has its place in cutscenes and other areas to make the experience much more immersive and almost movie-like. Would dynamic music be helpful there at all? Remember I know nothing about audio. XD;
 
For the places in TP that didn't feature dynamic MIDIs, I would've preferred orchestral - but it would still have to loop properly. Kondo wanted it, but ran out of time. Hopefully the true Wii Zelda will fetaure given more disc space.

It's true. Well...the Diamond and Pearl Pokemon look good (some), and a few of the more popular ones (Pikachu), but the rest are pulled out of Stadium and Stadium 2 (and Colosseum which for some reason had Stadium models for the new Pokemon O_o) based on the videos I've seen.
 
I wouldn't care if they reused the N64 models if the games were actually good. But every console Pokemon game after Stadium 2 has sucked. >>
 
Absolitude said:
I agree that Nintendo is taking this FC thing a little too far. It is ok for some games on the DS, but for D/P, that's just taking it a peg down. I think the reason Nintendo is taking baby steps into the online world is because of the way they are. They are always opting for innovation over graphics,and storyline over replay. Nintendo has limited them selfs in the sense that they are limiting the graphical capabilities of the wii for a small size. Would you agree not that, PBR would look great with better 3d capabilities, and with the better graphics comes things like faster frame rate, and whatnot. They are just trying to perfect one way, before trying new ones, but i like the PSP a little mainly because of it's multimedia functions, and better 3d capabilities. Figuratively speaking if they took a step towards the shore line, they will find more water.
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IMO I take innovation over graphics (you can do without pretty graphics, but you do the same thing over and over again it gets old), and I take storyline over replay (chances are, when I beat TP I'll likely never go back and play it again, so I want the best story I can get out of it the first time).
The PSP is nice, but mine collects dust. I don't care to watch movies on it (I got a laptop), the only time I listen to music on it is when I don't feel like turning my laptop on (and since it's always on the PSP doesn't get much use). What good is having an MP3 player, a video player, a web browser and all that if the system doesn't have any good games. And the same thing goes with the Wii and PS3. Why is the Wii outselling the PS3? It's not because of the price because Sony is shooting for the older group of people (the ones with big HDTVs, and got the money to blow on a $600 system). The games are the reason why the Wii has almost (or maybe even over) 4.5 Million sells, and the PS3 sits there with a little over 1.5 Million (maybe closer to 2 Mil). If you don't got good games to back the system the graphics and multimedia functions won't be enough to sell a game system.



I agree with Robo. I would take N64 graphics as long as we have a good game like Stadium/2. I love how both of them games were. Free Battle, contests, an announcer, and sooooooooo much more. Both the GC games weren't all that good (I still haven't picked up XD, and chances are I might never), if they just took a page from the Stadium book then that would be great. Forget the RPs and the dumbed down games like PBR (I heard it didn't turn out so well), just go back to how Stadium 1 and 2 were.
 
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