Off The Menu [Workshop]

[Ech]

so much has happened in this thread since i last posted. is this how kiyo feels

Are you implying Burr is secretly Kuzco.
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Welp, it'll be fun to imagine David Spade doing a british accent while reading any of Burr's attempts on breaching the fourth wall. John Goodman can play as the first Cadbury.

Everybody else can be Patrick Warburton.

SEE KIYO THE WAY YOU DESCRIBE EVERYTHING MAKES ME FEEL IMPORTANT

Wow, what an E G O M A N I A C.

I personally imagine Caddy as this blameless self-absorbed grump who goes around throwing temper tantrums whenever he feels like he doesn't get what he personally believes he himself deserves, like RESPECT. He doesn't really acknowledge the repercussions of his outbursts, or at least he doesn't really care. Burr seems like he completely relishes in the moment and comes off as obsessively meticulous with his attention to detail. Like, most of his prompt comes off as rambling and exaggerated depictions of events that were quickly passed off by Caddy. It's pretty creepy behavior that's as off-putting as it is ludicrous.

But honestly, it's really crazy you went up and beyond to write out two separate letters that detail the same event, more or less. Seeing as how I'm cognitively inept, I'm trying to squeeze in more time to read both letters and seek out for any subtle connections they may have with each other to decipher Cadbury's psychological apparatus because I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you had that much foresight for these two loons.

And all of this work is just for an ice cream cone with two heads.

let Ech say something smart-sounding

The sesquipadelian word of the century is: PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILOICOVOALNOCONIOSIS.

(i used this for hangman without realizing it would fuck me over more than my foe cuz I had to keep track of every letter)

speaking of which where is his sign-up tf

THE OOC ISN'T EVEN OUT, I HAVE ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD.

But just to prove that I am working on something, I can at least provide my MS paint art along with some details, at the risk of it getting stolen by some hack on RPGuild. (implying my art is even good enough for that lolololol)

Spoiler:

I MADE HER SHINY, SHE IS 109% GAY, SHE HATES HERSELF AND SHE HAS A BUNCH OF SIBLINGS

I AM DOING A CICARO EXPY AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME KIIIIIIIIYO

Also, after literally spending about a week on her name, I decided to name her after the Nereids as a homage to Fox's shitty Titans character. However, she will prominently go by her stage name "Vissi D'Arte", which is the name of an aria from Tosca. If real-life operas can exist in this universe, I'm thinking about having my character here directly allude to the play based on some old pamphlets if possible -- though most likely I'm probably going to leave out any actual references, and my character just happened to like the name Vissi D'Arte.

But I'm thinking about connecting some aspects of her history to Vissi D'Arte's lyrics, and hopefully I could even leave some sort of subtle hint to her "secret" just so I can hopefully one day match Disclosed's smartyness.

(these are all liable to change btw -- I might just swindle and play as an Electrode named Dick)

BTW WHERE IS EVERYONE ELSE AND THEIR WORK, I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST BEEN US FOUR TALKING THESE PAST WEEKS.

M'kay, every time I touch the Intrigue Plots, the more they change and mutate on me, and when I come up with missions for them I'm either like "what the hell, this is so lead-by-the-nose where is the interactivity" or "holy shit this would make a great mission!" So, as much as I like the concept, I think some of the ideas are better spent enriching the main stew and story of the RP.​

So you're thinking about taking out Intrigue Plots? That's a shame. I felt like they offer something that helped OTM differentiate from Cornered, aside from just the setting and the focus on player interaction. But I guess that mechanic becoming too convoluted to manage alone was inevitable, considering there's so many variables for you to take into account here. I guess that's why you wanted to designated each Intrigue Plot to every player for better organization, even though this would feel like it would just seclude everyone to their own arcs.

That being said, for others -- you guys flinging around that "ominous chalkboard" idea got me thinking. What if, in the Intrigue's place, there was a "Betting Pool?" It'd be run by PJ Clarke of course, and it would be a series of extra dares. I feel like this idea retains the challenge of discovery (as they wouldn't be easy, obviously, and opens it up more to playing with Player Secrets) and competition that I wanted to do with the Intrigues. There are a few models this could follow:

* There are 2/3 new objectives revealed every hour from a set list (undiscovered ones can be alluded to in their own secretive way) and can be finished any time after they're introduced.
* There's 1/2 "must complete within the hour" mission(s); I'm not really sure I'm super into this model, since it sounds like a clusterfuck with six people trying to accomplish the same mission on top of their chosen one.
* Players can submit bets to be put up every hour, allowing their creativity to enter into this concept.

I'm thinking that, to retain the spirit of the Intrigue Plots, that completing these objectives (and in certain ways) will change the RP's ending.
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Implying we actually manage to get to the ending, you're super optimistic Kiyo -- I bet you'll be like every GM and dip right after your second post

Initially I was against Method 3, but I think that could invoke some discussions in the OOC and actively encourage players to be more involved in the RP. Plus it could help offer a lot of diversity, in case you're struggling with that. Betting Pool honestly sounds like a fun idea, but it comes off as crude and feels like it would only appeal to gambling addicts or egocentric dare-devils. I can't imagine characters who want to play safe would ever resort to these dares even for a little extra cash. Of course, I imagine you'd probably just enforce these dares onto everyone eventually anyway.

Alternatively, this concept can be the thesis to the RP itself, allowing more edgy gameplay when approaching the missions. Like, you can choose a mission, but you're given a dare on top of your duties that's kept secret from everyone else (more like Cornered in this way, come to think.) Or, alternatively alternatively, missions are kinda more like dares (allowing you to report to a chalkboard to get new missions every hour, in-character crossing them off when you accept them) and the players are more playing a game during that particular night whether they want to or not; I think this last idea really opens up for a lot of mischief to take place and is more in the spirit of sabotage and secret-mongering.​

To be honest, and I can't believe I of all people is objecting the thought of turning the story into a cesspool of madness, but I really feel the latter would escalate too quickly into zany territory and Finer Things would start to feel like a parody of Wheel of Fortune or something. I feel like there should be some slower conveyance that remains relevant to Finer Things' motif, if to help make it easier for us to gradually flesh out our characters through down-to-earth interactions and basic work ethics.

I'm against the former if only for the fact that I kinda want this to follow a different system from Cornered's. I know I was never part the original RP, but you clearly have your own ideas. It'd be more interesting to see you follow your own concepts rather than strictly stick to Jauntier's style of classic espionage.

I can't see the servers taking time out of the most important evening in recent employment history (in terms of getting paid) to play games/dares. I can see them react and respond and deal with intrigue plots that occur throughout the night as the result of what's going on with customers.

The dares most likely offer some rewards, so it's not like everyone is just dilly-dallying on playing a lamer version of Mario Party. If anything, Intrigue Plots would feel less appealing from our characters' perspective at least strictly from a financial standpoint, considering they need time to expand on and they aren't guaranteed to have any immediate benefits at first.


this post felt like it took forever to write.

 

[Ihsaan]

Spoiler:

I MADE HER SHINY, SHE IS 109% GAY, SHE HATES HERSELF AND SHE HAS A BUNCH OF SIBLINGS

I AM DOING A CICARO EXPY AND YOU CAN'T STOP ME KIIIIIIIIYO

Also, after literally spending about a week on her name, I decided to name her after the Nereids as a homage to Fox's shitty Titans character. However, she will prominently go by her stage name "Vissi D'Arte", which is the name of an aria from Tosca. If real-life operas can exist in this universe, I'm thinking about having my character here directly allude to the play based on some old pamphlets if possible -- though most likely I'm probably going to leave out any actual references, and my character just happened to like the name Vissi D'Arte.

But I'm thinking about connecting some aspects of her history to Vissi D'Arte's lyrics, and hopefully I could even leave some sort of subtle hint to her "secret" just so I can hopefully one day match Disclosed's smartyness.

(these are all liable to change btw -- I might just swindle and play as an Electrode named Dick)

where the tiddies at tho

 

[Junier]

Welp, it'll be fun to imagine David Spade doing a british accent while reading any of Burr's attempts on breaching the fourth wall.

As long as you imagine Sean Bean for everything else. This has been DECIDED, Ech.

Leggo my ego

Seeing as how I'm cognitively inept, I'm trying to squeeze in more time to read both letters and seek out for any subtle connections they may have with each other to decipher Cadbury's psychological apparatus because I honestly wouldn't be surprised if you had that much foresight for these two loons.

A whole doc full of foresight.

To be fair, though, there's a limit to the amount of foresight I can do; I think a lot of what both you and Kiyo had shared from analyzing those letters has done wonders for that forethought. Certain aspects I can explain immediately about Cadbury or any additional characters but others admittedly elude me, until I see how other people perceive said characters. My own comprehension grows exponentially as a result of that, whether it's from evaluating if I want others to maintain those perceptions or if it's, "I didn't know how to word that, thank you!" Have you ever done something that made more sense when another person explained it?

Also, >cognitively inept
>PNEUMONOULTRAMICROSCOPICSILOICOVOALNOCONIOSIS

I'm totally using that word in a post only half-ironically

(lol remember when i used to try to write like Jaunt and had all these big, embellished words that I didn't even know how to pronounce so I didn't know if they sounded good together either!?)

I personally imagine Caddy as this blameless self-absorbed grump who goes around throwing temper tantrums whenever he feels like he doesn't get what he personally believes he himself deserves, like RESPECT. He doesn't really acknowledge the repercussions of his outbursts, or at least he doesn't really care. Burr seems like he completely relishes in the moment and comes off as obsessively meticulous with his attention to detail. Like, most of his prompt comes off as rambling and exaggerated depictions of events that were quickly passed off by Caddy. It's pretty creepy behavior that's as off-putting as it is ludicrous.

i can't confirm whether this is the first thing or the second thing bc that would be giving away big secritz

And the two letters needed to be done since Cadbury's fucking weird and would't make that much sense/would sound banal based on pure concept alone, I feel.

ALSO REMEMBER WHEN I ALMOST GAVE CADBURY LEGIT DID!? HAHAHA

And all of this work is just for an ice cream cone with two heads.

"We're stooping this low already, are we? I'd keep your trap shut, ol' chap, less you wanna feel -50 degrees under the weather."​

But just to prove that I am working on something, I can at least provide my MS paint art along with some details, at the risk of it getting stolen by some hack on RPGuild. (implying my art is even good enough for that lolololol)

(screenshots)
(uses as face claim for MLP Forums)

CHECKMATE

Also, Cadbury the Intimidating is already a Cicaro expy, he and his sibling's names start with C and he'd [redacted] Goro for free

I'm glad you found an aria too. But you should have named her Sayuka, best girl.

Joking aside, I do like how OG Cadbury is the only character with a thought-up alias—at least in concept; you might change your name about the opera pamphlets or make Dick happen, which would be FINE. Everyone else's preferred monomer is derivative of something they overheard or saw and liked the sound of. Cadbury 2: Die Harder's name is legit from a Cadbury bar wrapper.

But I'm thinking about connecting some aspects of her history to Vissi D'Arte's lyrics, and hopefully I could even leave some sort of subtle hint to her "secret" just so I can hopefully one day match Disclosed's smartyness.

I-I didn't leave an allusion to Cadbury's secret anywhere! sweat

BTW WHERE IS EVERYONE ELSE AND THEIR WORK, I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST BEEN US FOUR TALKING THESE PAST WEEKS.

Let me guess: You're worried about "fairness" now after I've already gone through with getting rid of them. Do you know by how much you're wasting my time?"​

(i know there's an incoming plot about intrigue plots vs. the betting pool but i've gotta get this outline done and that'll take all of my brainpower)

 

[Who's Kiyo?]

the Betting Pool sounds more complicated

Oh, God, no. The way I was developing the Intrigue Plots was that they were like a set of secret missions that people had to uncover and each objective had two different sides (like ... "moral choices?") based around a theme or underlying "plot," as it were, so the Betting Pool that I proposed was actually more of an open, simplified version of the same thing; in either case the employees would be "taking time" out of their duties to complete them. I also felt like I wasn't capitalizing on the player Secrets, which is one of the most interesting backbone elements to me about this RP.

I think that the word vomit I sputtered in my last post - upon self-reflection - enlightens me that I've been approaching the Intrigues in the wrong way perhaps. Maybe seeing them as a set of extra missions is the wrong way to make them, maybe they need to be actual plots or mysteries that have no clear objectives to them but getting involved with them alters how the environment or characters react to your character.

Possibly, maybe the Intrigues can be retooled as a concept of finding out/involving a plot around the 3 Boss character's Secrets?

so much has happened is this how kiyo feels

do you understand now

Everybody else can be Patrick Warburton.

I subscribe to this casting.

I can provide my MS paint art

lol i literally thought in my head "wtf is she supposed to be cicaro" before I read the second sentence

It's weird, I've never actually seen a shiny Primarina until now; had no idea they were blonde. She looks really great and unique, and I love all the little accessories you put on her! Also, that tail: I'm thinking she has genetic ties to a Milotic, or is trying to emulate one she aspires to be like? Either way, I enjoy that extra touch (and possible reference to how having different-species parents can affect the child!) and this singer dynamic you plan for her. I imagine that's going to be ridiculously fun to play.

And since you asked: real world songs and operas and stuff can exist, and you're welcome to make Poke-Puns.

where the tiddies at tho

where is your input in this thread

he got a point tho are you going to incorporate that she was prostitute in her background since cornered established that theres a huge market for shiny sex workers

you're super optimistic Kiyo

I'm not letting this behemoth of an Interest Check be in vain, dammit.

it comes off as crude and feels like it would only appeal to gambling addicts

This is a good point, I feel like the hand-wave I have already as to why the employees need to be competitive is good enough and I don't think Carmine would mesh well or be alright with PJ manipulating the wait staff to forcefully play his games during such an important night.

there should be some slower conveyance that remains relevant to Finer Things' motif

What would you say are some motifs you get from the RP, or what gameplay it should invoke?

Intrigue Plots would feel less appealing from our characters' perspective at least strictly from a financial standpoint

This could tie in well to the concept of the Intrigues being related to the bosses (or, fatcats in the restaurant), since I can easily see PJ as a secret-monger wanting to get the scoop on someone and offering rewards based on things you find out about them.

i know disclosed has a cadbury-related behemoth above me but i have to go to class now sorry will respond later​

 

[Afterglow Ampharos]

But just to prove that I am working on something, I can at least provide my MS paint art along with some details, at the risk of it getting stolen by some hack on RPGuild. (implying my art is even good enough for that lolololol)

Spoiler:

She's gorgeous!! What a pretty lady, Ech! I can't believe--

where the tiddies at tho

She is a seeeeeaaaaal

BTW WHERE IS EVERYONE ELSE AND THEIR WORK, I FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST BEEN US FOUR TALKING THESE PAST WEEKS.

This is an Interest Check thread. Working on characters usually doesn't happen much until the recruitment thread is up. You'll see more people joining in at that point.

Implying we actually manage to get to the ending, you're super optimistic Kiyo -- I bet you'll be like every GM and dip right after your second post

It hurts because it's all too real.

Initially I was against Method 3, but I think that could invoke some discussions in the OOC and actively encourage players to be more involved in the RP.

Agreed.

The dares most likely offer some rewards, so it's not like everyone is just dilly-dallying on playing a lamer version of Mario Party. If anything, Intrigue Plots would feel less appealing from our characters' perspective at least strictly from a financial standpoint, considering they need time to expand on and they aren't guaranteed to have any immediate benefits at first.

That's true mechanically, but given that the dares/bets are opt-in, something created by the characters on an already-really-busy night, it doesn't seem as organic in its method of materializing in the story. It's fundamentally contrived: deliberately created rather than arising naturally or spontaneously.

That doesn't negate your point, Betting Pool and Intrigue Plots are just good for different reasons.

I do like how OG Cadbury is the only character with a thought-up alias. Everyone else's preferred monomer is derivative of something they overheard or saw and liked the sound of. Cadbury 2: Die Harder's name is legit from a Cadbury bar wrapper.

Sort of. As I might have mentioned, James Cadbury was a name I arrived at through research into typical butler names. Cadbury stuck out to me because I liked the sound and it had an association with brown. I don't remember why I picked James. Anyway, it is SORT OF derivative of something I saw and liked the sound of. If a list of butler names can be considered that.

Also, "Everyone else" is two people. Don't get too excited, haha.

I think that the word vomit I sputtered in my last post - upon self-reflection - enlightens me that I've been approaching the Intrigues in the wrong way perhaps. Maybe seeing them as a set of extra missions is the wrong way to make them, maybe they need to be actual plots or mysteries that have no clear objectives to them but getting involved with them alters how the environment or characters react to your character.

That does sound smart, I must say. As long as it doesn't lead to unsolved mysteries I guess. Sometimes no clear objectives can lead to... unfinished loose ends. It's tricky.

Also, that tail: I'm thinking she has genetic ties to a Milotic, or is trying to emulate one she aspires to be like? Either way, I enjoy that extra touch (and possible reference to how having different-species parents can affect the child!) and this singer dynamic you plan for her. I imagine that's going to be ridiculously fun to play.

Ooh ooh I thought the same thing!! That Milotic tail is great, for reasons above~

Also, this Cicaro business is going totally over my head.

it comes off as crude and feels like it would only appeal to gambling addicts

This is a good point, I feel like the hand-wave I have already as to why the employees need to be competitive is good enough and I don't think Carmine would mesh well or be alright with PJ manipulating the wait staff to forcefully play his games during such an important night.

Ah, it looks like you guys are already arriving at some similar conclusions as I did, above.

What would you say are some motifs you get from the RP, or what gameplay it should invoke?

It seems like you like to hammer home the theme/motif of Secrets Are Temporary. However hard we may try to hide them, they will come out sooner or later.

There's the obvious theme of Sophisticated Society, and of Money Makes the World Go Round.

This could tie in well to the concept of the Intrigues being related to the bosses (or, fatcats in the restaurant), since I can easily see PJ as a secret-monger wanting to get the scoop on someone and offering rewards based on things you find out about them.

Funny how you're kinda confirming my thoughts on motifs there.

I suppose there's also the theme of Proving Yourself/Your Worth, given how many incentives there are here for exceptional behaviour (more exceptional than everyone else's) being rewarded.

You could also say there's a motif of Servitude.

 

[Who's Kiyo?]

She is a seeeeeaaaaal

Just keep running past the fire, Ordy.

Agreed

On second thought, I pretty much have that element encapsulated within the "Order Takeout" mechanic, and I'd rather the interesting circumstances created by players to be adhered to/undertaken rather than be a choice by other players.

It's fundamentally contrived

Very good point. Theoretically, what do you expect the Intrigue Plot(s) to be? What rewards would you want to get out of it? How do you imagine getting wrapped up in one?

I'm starting to like the idea more and more of being enlisted to gather intelligence on certain clientele or bosses, but I feel like that's so ... optional, or as you said: contrived, for lack of better terminology. Like it isn't some possibly menacing or shadowy background dealing.

no clear objectives can lead to... unfinished loose ends

Unless a plot itself was just that, a plot, that interference with changes its ending. Like, if it isn't bothered with too much throughout the hours (and some of its transpiring would be subtly slipped into my GM posts) its would lead to a certain result.

this Cicaro business is going over my head

Cicaro in a nutshell:

- *walks into store wearing puke-green scarf littered with tacky buttons because anti-fashion* "hey ladies"
- *mentally disassociates with surroundings*
- steals someone's medicine only to accidentally drop entire bottle onto floor
- "my sibling with (such and such quality) who (other quality) once stabbed me with a pineapple address book"
- gay pink hipster ferret looking for single large panda man specifically named Goro to love me dammit

the theme/motif of Secrets Are Temporary

I like the thesis of "keeping up appearances" a lot. Hence why there's elements like Player Secrets and underlying plots. I'm a huge fan of Dissonance, as in certain values or themes clashing together as opposites. The frame is that of upper-crust society and there's a strong narrative focus on professionalism, so naturally I lean towards gameplay being focused on the scaly underbelly of these "well-kept" individuals and reacting to chaos.​

 

[Afterglow Ampharos]

On second thought, I pretty much have that element encapsulated within the "Order Takeout" mechanic, and I'd rather the interesting circumstances created by players to be adhered to/undertaken rather than be a choice by other players.

Not a choice, huh? I already dread what might happen if an opposing player has a different set of ideas than I do about what's acceptable to subject other characters to. :[

Or vice versa. I know I tend to be more open to themes of sensuality when it comes to the Pokémon world and others don't find that a comfortable subject. I sidestepped such themes in my Prompt Response by having them occurring vaguely offscreen, but that's not an option in the RP proper.

Oh, God, no. [The Betting Pool is not the more complicated option.] The way I was developing the Intrigue Plots was that they were like a set of secret missions that people had to uncover.

Maybe seeing them as a set of extra missions is the wrong way to make them, maybe they need to be actual plots or mysteries that have no clear objectives to them but getting involved with them alters how the environment or characters react to your character.

I don't think "secret missions that must be uncovered" is the way to go about it, myself.

Very good point. Theoretically, what do you expect the Intrigue Plot(s) to be? How do you imagine getting wrapped up in one?

Taking directly from the OP:

while you're performing duties you might be pulled into the midst of [an Intrigue Plot] or overhear a Secret

Just that. Burr notices two customers discussing what sounds suspiciously like plotting a crime. James is suddenly romantically involved with a customer after a use of Charm is a bit too effective. Vissi finds a frickin' dead body. Stuff like that. Stuff just happens, and now we've gotta figure out how to deal with it (including: do we handle it alone or tell someone). It's not really a secret mission so much as stumbled into just by virtue of being a server in this dramatic-ass bistro.

Does this help simplify the Intrigue Plots as well as keep them arising naturally and spontaneously? Or is that just as complicated as your plan with two different moral sides and secret missions?

What rewards would you want to get out of it?

That might have to vary by each plot. Specifically, the NPCs involved. Seasoning and Utensils, obviously. For example, I could see a couple of crook NPCs rewarding a server with a pistol, which could be used for intimidation during a pinch later on. "Nobody move! You all are going to just, shut up, and listen to ME, now."

Sometimes valuable information could be part of the reward, too.

I'm starting to like the idea more and more of being enlisted to gather intelligence on certain clientele or bosses, but I feel like that's so ... optional, or as you said: contrived, for lack of better terminology. Like it isn't some possibly menacing or shadowy background dealing.

Try this: Don't enlist your players to gather intelligence. Drop juicy tidbits, overheard in conversations, found in clues. Make them curious enough, or even concerned enough, that they are compelled to snoop to find out more.

Don't tell (in this case, tell to go snooping), show.



P.S. Reading over that again, I feel I should clarify that this is all advice, because I'm kinda coming off bossy.

 

[Junier]

>"I'll read Disclosed's post later"
> Doesn't mention it
WHAT HAPPENED TO IMPROVING

But I really like Ord. Odd's description of interest plots; it's exactly what I'd expect of the mechanic, one with a right amount of subtlety as to attract heightened awareness and investment within players.

Also: connecting to main motifs. Yes. Mucho gusto. This will not become Titans where half the cast was Batman and the other half was Loonatics Unleashed. I like "Keeping Up Appearances" and "Proving Your Worth"; I'll also throw in "Self-Sufficiency vs. Camaraderie" though I'd argue, with the probable addition of the "Betting Pool", the former would be emphasized more than the latter, and "Humans vs. Non-Humans" / "Civilization vs. Instinct" since they describe juxtapositions within the very environment and set-up.

I'm honestly surprised you were looking to treat the plots along the lines of missions, if Ord's words are anything to go by, Kiyo. That would make them about as subtle as those missions that were trending with the incessant journey RPs some months back where what the character would have to achieve involving whom or what and even what their reward would be were all decided in one fell swoop; they're supposed to be "secret", aren't they? I'm in full support of leaving strategically-placed hints and clues, both in the mouths of NPCs and even in the environment. The most attuned players will notice that "odd stain", and then we're promoting reading comprehension skills as well as creative twists on circumstances! (However, this might also crush the barrier between in-character proceeding and out-of-character observations.)

Here's something to consider: don't make interest plots a named mechanic. Otherwise there's a drive to have them be a "backbone" of the RP with an organized structure to them that's openly apparent to the players.

I'll also jump on Ech's point of encouraging a differentiation from Cornered At the Market, whether it's directly applicable or not; Cornered had its own way of going about things that made it stick. Off the Menu should stand out in an equally-memorable way and not look to relying on the more unique elements that Jaunt implemented, like the individual character missions (which had their debatable flaws as well, being that whoever got a mission relied mainly on what species fit accordingly for the role decided prior [i.e. the Weavile and Kecleon were both equipped for stealth]). On the subject of Cornered, at the risk of sounding like a killjoy, I actually think we shouldn't delve too much into referencing it. Not that's it been to an obsessive degree but a lot of people that may show Interest in 'Off the Menu' might have already been turned off by the similarities and outright continuity it shares with it. (And Cornered could technically come back anytime it felt like it.)

Also, "Everyone else" is two people. Don't get too excited, haha.

...this way we can maybe get more people posting here and on the future OOC thread. "Haha" indeed.

And, about the names, I meant solely from an in-character standpoint. I liked the sound of "Cadbury" too, the punny element that linked to British culture (like all my characters' names are puns at this point), and the fact that it was just wacky and uncommon enough to apply as both the name of a well-intended, geeky nice-guy and a total, off-the-wall sociopath!

 

[Who's Kiyo?]

I already dread what might happen

Well everything's going to be filtered through me obviously, and I'll be there to help translate the idea and make it appropriate to the RP's standards. So I wouldn't worry much about that.

I tend to be more open to themes of sensuality

o i know mr. yaoi extraordinaire

not really a secret mission so much as stumbled into

The way you describe it here is as if the intrigues are the very thing causing complications to occur within the pursuit of missions, which I can see and possibly get behind. Was that your meaning?

is that just as complicated as your plan with different moral sides?

I was using "moral side" almost as a pejorative, to be honest with you. I dislike morality systems because I think they're inorganic, but I wanted to have multiple endings in the original idea for Intrigues. I think I was just making it far too complicated. The ideas you've set up actually make things a lot simpler, in theory!

Don't tell, show

Very wise words, thank you. I like these ideas. All in all, I think it'd be better to reduce "Intrigue Plots" to simply Intrigues, like several pieces or things surrounding one overarching plot that exist and can be discovered or toyed with ... as said previously, maybe they can be the cause to several things going wrong within the restaurant, or be complications to missions.

Oh, pth, don't worry as coming off as bossy, you weren't.

WHAT HAPPENED TO IMPROVING

can you wait five motherfucking seconds okay tbh I've been trying to make the intrigue thing fucking work for the past couple hours and thought responding to Ordy was of immediate importance to my psyche because im dying but here is your proper response:

A whole doc full of foresight.

I feel like once I get my shit together on this RP I'm gonna do some prompt exercises with the boss characters in a similar manner because I need to solidify their styles of expression, but I totally get what you're saying! I think one of the biggest examples of that for me was when Jaunt proposed With Dignity (still bitter that never happened) and I couldn't articulate why the premise felt off to me, but swapping ideas back and forth made us finally break open what I was trying to get at.

tl;dr sharing ideas is gucci

two letters needed to be done

I agree, especially since a huge part of your character is about the differences between the two and you're technically playing two characters. Though now I'm really curious about how those consciousnesses mingled when Cadbury was just a wee Vanillite or a grunge diamond-ridden Vanillish.

less you wanna feel -50 degrees under the weather

is your entire character arc going to be based on ice cream puns

he'd [redacted] Goro for free

# STAY AWAY FROM MY M A N

should have named her Sayuka, best girl

Is Vissi not a Magical Girl wtf is this shit

YO ECH MAKE HER SECRET THAT SHES A MAGICAL GIRL WHO MADE A DEAL WITH AN EVIL MEOWTH

Everyone else's preferred monomer is derivative of something they overheard

I like to call myself "disappointment" because that's what I overheard my mom calling me.

I didn't leave an allusion to Cadbury's secret anywhere!

This is actually a good point, there really shouldn't be that much allusion to your secret (or at least enough to easily deduce) anywhere in you SU; Disclosed didn't, but just for future reference.

Also: connecting to main motifs

right i feel like this is so important

I'm in full support of leaving strategically-placed hints and clues

Hm, I think this will also prevent me from having to feel the need to spell out everything or forcing the Plots onto players as well if their character doesn't want to pursue them or get actively involved. And my days of playing Mafia have certainly taught me a thing or two about tasty flavor text, oho. To be honest, the Betting Pool idea was simply me trying to drive the Intrigue Plots in a different direction, but it's panning out that it was also incorrect.

don't make interest plots a named mechanic

well now you all know about them fuck That's a good point, they should be something discoverable rather than "hey extra points to the loser that gets it right lol."

we shouldn't delve too much into referencing it

Woah, you guys really jumped onto that aside I said. It was more of a comparison versus me actually saying "yo this should be more like cornered." In the actual RP, I think there will be only one significant thing carried over from Cornered. You'll find out what that is, but it certainly doesn't require prior knowledge to enjoy.

a well-intended, geeky nice-guy and a total, off-the-wall sociopath

is he gonna be one of those "nice guys" that thinks "friendzoning" is a thing​

 

[Ech]

I was gonna say some stuff but PC crashed on me. I am way too lazy to configuration quotes, so I'm going to be crude because I hate everything.

Regarding my character: The Miilotic pattern is purely aesthetic. It's just tights she wears over her tail, and similar to how I like making minor cameo references like Fox's dumb Blarzigord gag, it just alludes to a work I liked that was made by another artist I am a fan of. Though I personally like the idea of having a character develop genetic discrepancies from a mixed heritage -- I hope somebody explores that concept, given the wild array of possibilities. o3o

Also, fuck you Grelzar. STOP. STOP LABELING ME AS JUST A SMUT FANATIC GODDAMMIT, I HAVE FEELINGS TOO

Regarding Cicaro: Don't listen to Kiyo's disgustingly laconic summary of his own character. Apparently Cicaro's creator doesn't even understand the holy epitome of sexiness that takes on the shape and form of a goddamn pink furret. Cicaro isn't just some one-dimensional gay hipster, nor is he two dimensional -- he's a fully functional three dimensional character and thus you can LITERALLY caress his soft, lovely fur. And that is why he's the best character in RPT.

unfortunately he's also AIDS

Regarding anything relevant to OTM: I agree with Disclosed and Ordy. Honestly, I just DO not want OTM to emulate Cornered.

I honestly like the concept of Intrigue Plots because they potentially appeal to our characters. Prove me wrong, but I honestly believe every sentient being, to some extent, is instinctively curious due to their level of awareness. We're always eager to learn more about our surroundings and our characters will most likely have their idiosyncrasies and interests, so I imagine it wouldn't be too difficult for them to be naturally drawn to each Intrigue Plot over the course of the story -- for example, maybe my musically inclined Primarina with her shaky past is drawn into a conversation relevant to her interests and that could eventually transition into something deeper when the chat hits a specific point. I just really love the idea of having this build up in the background while our characters are also trying to earn some cash. It just feels like a realistic way for our characters to discover more about the world around them, as well as themselves.

I feel like you're trying to make this more gamey with a bigger emphasis on mechanics, which is fine. But as Ordy said, it feels forced and doesn't provide good conveyance for the narrative. I think there outta be a balance between making things immersive for the players but also telling a coherent flowing story.

This is an Interest Check thread. Working on characters usually doesn't happen much until the recruitment thread is up. You'll see more people joining in at that point.

I was kinda joking about that (hence the crossout), considering the priority should be Kiyo actually GETTING HIS SHIT TOGETHER AND POST THE OOC THREAD ALREADY.

But still, I am a bit alarmed that we're the only ones actively discussing in this thread. I'm sure everyone is just doing the sensible, NORMAL thing and actually waiting for the OOC that's evidently in development hell. I just hate getting the feeling that others are viewing this thread as some private clubhouse reserved solely for those who participated in OTM's predecessor and inadvertently locking them out because they're under the ridiculous assumption that they're too inadequate to even exist. I'm pretty confident Kiyo doesn't actively enforce nepotism and wouldn't automatically favor me over someone else just because I drew him some shitty pictures that aren't even that good (at least, I fucking hope he doesn't). Heck, he's implementing ways for non-participants to join in the fun so even if you aren't accepted, everyone is still able to contribute to something. RPing is a super niche hobby, in my opinion, but I always though its biggest appeal was the emphasis on socialization; we gather a rag-tag team of creative talents and actively encourage each other to improve their writing through insightful discussions, whether they be frivolous or constructive, and exchanging a variety of ideologies through collaborative literature. It's absolutely ridiculous to allow newcomers to be inhibited by nonsensical factors like seniority; this whole forum is dedicated to an activity that could never earn anyone actual profit and yet there are so many people who take their time to put in a lot of effort into their work because of how passionate they are. That level of zeal should inspire everyone to contribute and willingly share their own intuitions and express their inventiveness, not constantly seclude themselves out of fear. I do sometimes wish RPT's community was a little more open; I noticed some members in some of the private chats seldom post in the forums outside IC threads and their applications, which doesn't exactly help depict the forum as a place that's happy to accept anyone from anywhere. I get people can be busy and actually have lives to tend to unlike a troglodyte like me, and Discord or Skype is easier to access on a whim as opposed to taking the time to sign in PC in order to conjure up a more thoughtful, constructive post. Maybe most wouldn't see it as a big deal, but it doesn't feel disheartening for everyone to keep to themselves and basically shut out newcomers, especially those who may be a bit inexperienced and already have poor self-esteem about themselves.

Maybe I'm advocating for newbies because when I first joined PC, I literally had nothing to hold onto. I exploited the hell outta anonymity and did whatever the hell I wanted, but had Cornered's OOC followed the same trend every other OOC thread commits to (i.e., reserve all the fun discussions in private chats), I would have never bothered to stay here.

On that note, I actually really want to express gratitude to you Ordy. It is really nice to have someone who wasn't part of Cornered but still come in to frequently discuss and share your own ideas into the mix, regardless if you think your opinion is important or not. It's a lot of fun and it reminds me that meeting new people can be a lot of fun, as opposed to just sticking with the same clique, which was something I dread doing within an open online community like RPT. I actually hope you get accepted (provided Kiyo actually posts the goddamn OOC, lololol) and even if you don't make the cut, I REALLY do hope you join in for the discussions we'll have in the OOC and just share your thoughts.

 

[Afterglow Ampharos]

o i know mr. yaoi extraordinaire

Hey
Hey
I also work in yuri.

The way you describe it here is as if the intrigues are the very thing causing complications to occur within the pursuit of missions, which I can see and possibly get behind. Was that your meaning?

I guess in some cases they would inevitably delay your progress on a mission. Hopefully not so much that you can't complete it within the hour. Some may happen after your mission is done, too.

They're not set up explicitly as complications or roadblocks to your mission, they just come about at times that may or may not happen to complicate things.

Like, a whodunnit murder mystery on TV may interrupt a fancy party, but it doesn't exist as a way to complicate the party so much as a way to make the story more interesting, more dramatic.

The ideas you've set up actually make things a lot simpler, in theory!

Oh, pth, don't worry as coming off as bossy, you weren't.

Thanks!

Woah, you guys really jumped onto that aside I said [about Cornered.]

Oh, it was actually just that Cornered has been thrown around a LOT in this thread. I didn't meant this one comment in particular, I meant collectively.

Ordy

Ordy

Nitpicking, but I prefer Oddball or Oddy. Much obliged.

I honestly like the concept of Intrigue Plots because they potentially appeal to our characters. Prove me wrong, but I honestly believe every sentient being, to some extent, is instinctively curious due to their level of awareness. We're always eager to learn more about our surroundings and our characters will most likely have their idiosyncrasies and interests, so I imagine it wouldn't be too difficult for them to be naturally drawn to each Intrigue Plot over the course of the story -- for example, maybe my musically inclined Primarina with her shaky past is drawn into a conversation relevant to her interests and that could eventually transition into something deeper when the chat hits a specific point. I just really love the idea of having this build up in the background while our characters are also trying to earn some cash. It just feels like a realistic way for our characters to discover more about the world around them, as well as themselves.

I feel like you're trying to make this more gamey with a bigger emphasis on mechanics, which is fine. But as Ordy said, it feels forced and doesn't provide good conveyance for the narrative. I think there outta be a balance between making things immersive for the players but also telling a coherent flowing story.

But still, I am a bit alarmed that we're the only ones actively discussing in this thread. I'm sure everyone is just doing the sensible, NORMAL thing and actually waiting for the OOC that's evidently in development hell. I just hate getting the feeling that others are viewing this thread as some private clubhouse

I think it's more likely that Interest Check threads don't usually get read past the first page...

reserved solely for those who participated in OTM's predecessor

It's absolutely ridiculous to allow newcomers to be inhibited by nonsensical factors like seniority

I have neither.

On that note, I actually really want to express gratitude to you Ordy. It is really nice to have someone who wasn't part of Cornered but still come in to frequently discuss and share your own ideas into the mix, regardless if you think your opinion is important or not. It's a lot of fun and it reminds me that meeting new people can be a lot of fun, as opposed to just sticking with the same clique, which was something I dread doing within an open online community like RPT. I actually hope you get accepted.

I really appreciate this, Ech. Thank you.
And, that probably wasn't a question, but yes, I do think my opinions are important.

I like to call myself "disappointment" because that's what I overheard my mom calling me.​

o jeezum crow o golly garsh um​

 

[Junier]

SHIT I FORGOT TO FETISH-SHAME ORD ODD IN MY LAST POST

But I will wholeheartedly mirror all of Ech's sentiments regarding your involvement here, Oddball. It's great to have someone I don't know as well along for the ride we're about to have! That's why you're my best friend, not any of these Cornered elitists.

Nitpicking, but I prefer Oddball or Oddy. Much obliged.

shit
There's already an Oddy. You have usurped him in my memory.

I should call you Opinionball, really, because your opinions matter.

Regarding the actual workshop element of the thread, I agree with no morality systems—this isn't a video game with programmed pathways; more importantly, this isn't an Azurilland "bad-guys-v.-good-guys" deal either—and love multiple endings because, F you, Ech, optimism is good. You can't anticipate seeing your roleplay through to the end if you can't visualize the end goal! I also think the movie genre theme is too adorable to pass up, even if "Intrigues" are being simplified, so perhaps we can move that over to the Betting Pool idea? Have P.C. be a film geek!

is your entire character arc going to be based on ice cream puns[/S]

can you wait five motherfucking seconds

"By your bias-driven logic, I'd melt."​

I think one of the biggest examples of that for me was when Jaunt proposed With Dignity (still bitter that never happened)

OPENING OLD WOUNDS

But yah, I getcha, I getcha. I gucci. I gucch-a.

...moving on.

Though now I'm really curious about how those consciousnesses mingled when Cadbury was just a wee Vanillite or a grunge diamond-ridden Vanillish.

Ooh, another reason why sharing ideas is a fabulous thing! I would have never associated Vanillish with grunge and now I want to reference that punk era in British pop culture... except we're not doing the 90's so fuck that, I guess.

AND KYUBEI ISN'T A CAT HE'S AN INK-KYU-BAE-TORR

I like to call myself "disappointment" because that's what I overheard my mom calling me.

Appreciating this

Disclosed didn't, but just for future reference.

NO YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO CONFIRM
SEKRIITTTT

To be honest, the Betting Pool idea was simply me trying to drive the Intrigue Plots in a different direction, but it's panning out that it was also incorrect.

Oh no, but I like betting! I like the sound of it the distinct allure.

is he gonna be one of those "nice guys" that thinks "friendzoning" is a thing

Baby I can treat you better

BETTAH DAN PECAN

PC crashed on me... I hate everything.

On Tonight's Episode of "Relateable"

I also would totally like to see that "generic discrepancies" concept explored! Unfortunately my own character's familial background isn't too expansive this time.

And that is why he's the best character in RPT.

Unfortunately, he's also AIDs.

In retrospect, Cicaro was one of the greatest parts of Cornered. That and officially killing Rina off.

ALRIGHT GUYS, NO MORE INDULGENCE. NO MORE LINGERING IN THE PAST.

Woah, you guys really jumped onto that aside

Nigga I was referring to all of us, don't play victim, gurl. Of course the nature of this RP would attract past comparisons to, preconceptions inspired by, etc. Cornered. At least rest assured that this will likely be much better than COTM ever was, and not only because I didn't like my character!
But yeah, fuck you, Goro's mine.

Ech tore it up tonight, honestly. I'm loving this insight, homie. You say you're not cognitively adept but by God are you bright and I love reading what you think. (And I'm also not the only person venting in this thread!)

I just want to tack everything about openness to the front of the Theatre. We should just replace the condescending tagline with your entire post, lol. I don't have anything to add, just that I'll openly advocate for everything that you yearn for from my safe perch aloft the actual board. It's here that the actual coordination happens anyway. We should be more open with one another outside of chats! I feel like those hinder our communicability more than anything in the long run.

 

[Afterglow Ampharos]

SHIT I FORGOT TO FETISH-SHAME ORD ODD IN MY LAST POST

Which fetish is that?

There's already an Oddy. You have usurped him in my memory.

good
This is highlanders, right?

I guess you could call me OO too but then it sounds like you're Ooh-ing.

We should be more open with one another outside of chats!

Speaking of, we haven't seen you on Discord since you introduced to the Open Blue cast, Disc. :0

Speaking of 2.0, are you going to make a Skype or Discord or Telegram whatever group chat, Kiyo, or just trust us to communicate only in the form of elaborate forum posts? They both certainly have their purpose that the other one can't fulfill. I know I'd love this kind of discussion going on in my other roleplay group, but sadly they use only Discord and Etherpad and leave the OOC forum abandoned. And an environment like Discord is open to one-liners more than what we see here.


...This post is too short. I'm gonna include some bonus content. That's right I'm releasing the developer commentary deleted scenes before the DVD's even out, whatcha gonna do about it.

Character I wrote up but didn't end up using since James Cadbury seemed better:
(I'm not worried about people borrowing ideas from this, by the way. Yes I'm talking to you, hypothetical person who's yet to join in OTM.)

Spoiler:

- Name -- Holly

- Gender -- Female

Relaxation video game music playlist

- Appearance --

If you're curious, she has a fat, stubby tail. She wears a neat little bow in Finer Things's stripes of green, black, and white. Usually it's around one of her ears, sometimes it's around her tail.


- Moveset -- (( *Aggressively flowersmells at you* ))


- Background --
Holly's parents, Mr. and Mrs. Harlow, were farmers, so naturally Holly had to do a lot of farmwork to help out as a little seedling Bulbasaur. Though she was pressured to follow their family and become a farmer herself, Holly decided she hated that, and moved into a small Pokémon town instead.

It was hard living on her own, but she was glad to be out of the country and way from farmwork. She became self-employed as an aromatherapist, but also works as a town beautifier on the side. She tends to the local flora all around town, and protects it from harm. Holly runs a tiny aromatherapy wellness spa out of her own home.

However, she has a great deal of trouble getting enough customers in order to make a living. Mostly because it's difficult to advertise when you're just starting out. So, she decided to work part-time in a second job as well. A bistro, working as a server! She is in fact, very new to the bistro, possibly the most recent hire. Holly would do best in the conservatory among her fellow scented plants, and would do fine in the foyer too. She would surely do awful in the dirty smelly rooms.



- Aromatherapy -- As an aromatherapist, Holly has found a use for her natural abilities that makes her the happiest in life: helping others feel pleasant through the relaxation of pleasant scents.

First and foremost, Holly will settle her patient into a relaxed position, in a comfy bed or a peaceful garden or a warm bathtub.
Then, she has a variety of methods to administer her aromatherapy.

The first is probably the most obvious: the flower on her back releases a pleasant scent, filling the room for the patient to inhale. Holly's developed remarkable control over her scents, able to release different scents for different purposes on command. Through a biological process indescribable to anyone who doesn't have a flower as part of their body, Holly chooses the scent she wants and begins releasing it into the air.

The second is the use of her vines, long and slender green tendrils that snake out from beneath her leaves. Their high degree of prehensile movement makes them good for a light massage, and from the tips of each vine, Holly can release different plant oils, such as chamomile oil, rose oil, and lavender oil.

Holly claims she has a scent or an oil for almost anything that troubles you. Stress, anxiety, depression, fatigue, hyperactivity, allergies, stomachache, fever, congestion, body aches, dry skin, low libido...

If any customers of Finer Things are interested in Holly's aromatherapy spa, she plucks a single petal and gives it to them, telling them that it serves as a secret coupon for a free first session, if they come by~

In any case, while she probably won't be giving massages in Finer Things (for obvious reasons), she's still a walking talking source of calming, alleviating aromas. She's a rather nice member of the wait staff to interact based on this alone. Hopefully her personality only adds to it!



- Personality -- Holly enjoys all things sensuous. Under strict definition, this would probably make her a hedonist, but of course she'd rather not use that label, even if it's sort of true.

Not only does she enjoy all things sensuous on her own accord, she enjoys giving sensuous things to others too, which is how she found herself in the profession she's in today. Well, that and being inclined toward it thanks to her floral-based species.

She speaks with a rumbly, deep, yet subtly feminine voice that many of her kind have, rarely raising her voice. Though her methods come across as soothing, comforting, concerning herself with everyone's well-being, there's also an element of underlying...command. Holly enjoys taking control, and between her more persuasive scents and her vines, she has ample means to do so.

She's prone to wide smiles, the kind that creep from cheek to cheek on her broad face.



- Prompt --
•- Dr. Katz, a fragile aging Whismur toting large thick glasses and a graying soupcatcher mustache, is giving your character a psyche evaluation so that they may earn their license to work in the city. He doesn't do much but ask tedious, prying questions and mocks astonishment whenever you reveal anything deep. Play out your character's conversation with him in his typical therapist's office. (You may bunny Dr. Katz and his questions, but remember, I need to see more about your character and their thoughts/reactions than the doctor's!)

"Alright, Holly. Let's move on to something else. Tell me what you see here."

The elderly Whismur therapist takes hold of a stack of cards, and holds them to display the frontmost card toward Holly. It's a symmetrical inkblot.

The Ivysaur shifts in her seat, or rather, her lounge. This is the first time she's been on one of these psychiatrist couches. She could really get used to lying on something like this! For the time being, she shifts onto lying on her side so she can have a look at the inkblot.

"Oh! That looks like a water lily tulip."

"Oh?" Dr. Katz has a peek at the card, himself, from his own perspective.

"Yeah, from the side. They're actually called Kaumanniana Tulips, but from the side they look more like a water lily than a tulip. So they got nicknamed!"

"Hm, I see. I suppose I should expect you to be knowledgeable about such things. How about this one?" He flips the card to the back of the scak, revealing a new inkblot.

"Mm, that looks like a geranium, I think."

"How about this?"

"Ahhh… Oh, a cymbidium orchid!"

"And this...?"

"Ooh, that's a snapdragon!" Holly exclaims, smiling and leaning forward, getting into this little game.

Dr. Katz exhales, exasperated. The cards are lowered to better reveal his face. "Miss Holly, before I continue, are you going to name a type of flower for every image here?"

"...Were they not supposed to be?"

"...Holly, tell me about your childhood."

Holly lies back on the couch, squishing her flower petals below her back (they'll bounce back, don't worry!) and exposing her belly to the ceiling.

((Talks about farming family, hating that, moving out on her own, developing
aromatherapy talents and doing research, getting her own place and renovating it.
Doc asks her to demonstrate aroma ability.
Asks her what her fears are.))

 

[Who's Kiyo?]

Miilotic pattern is purely aesthetic

What was that work, is it the aria you mentioned? I suppose the tights in itself are an interesting conversational piece even though its artifice, potentially even more so if you play that card right. I hope people do explore it to some degree!

I HAVE FEELINGS TOO

How Ech experiences emotion:

unfortunately he's also AIDS

and a furry He was a slightly anarchic queer that hated himself, the end.

a balance between making things immersive for the players but also telling a coherent story

I think a lot of the examples you guys brought up have helped percolate a new way to approach the dilemma, and I thank you. I'll just need a bit of time to solidify elements within this new formula - but surely this will take far less time than it was going to with my original idea.

With that in mind, since I chose to raise the player cap to 6 during a time when I thought there was going to be mission-based intrigues, I think I'm going to go back to 5 slots. That'll also help juice up some of the missions I've planned with content and interesting challenges, too.

Now, as for your speech, I wholeheartedly agree. I think the thread has just gotten far too big for some to really care about anymore or now they feel they can't just jump in, but I've noticed a lot of quiet stalkers. I don't blame them for waiting for the OOC. To respond to a few of your points:

I'm pretty confident Kiyo doesn't actively enforce nepotism

I don't! I would actively throw all my friends under a bus for a better SU The point of the project is simply to pay homage to some elements that made Cornered great while being its own beast. Like, for a completely cheesy example: even though Angry Video Game Nerd inspired a lot of active Youtubers, its derivatives like Jontron and Nostalgia Critic are most certainly separate and have their own styles.

I really, really want people outside those that played Cornered to be interested and join in!

It's absolutely ridiculous to allow newcomers to be inhibited by nonsensical factors like seniority

I hate the inverse of this too, like the fact Orx thinks he shouldn't apply since he has some weird sense of "seniority." What nonsense. I want a batch to choose from, not people to back down because they see others gunning for spots. Encourage c o m p e t i t i o n.

I also work in yuri

Which fetish is that?

bitch don't pretend like your mother never found your list of fetishes and mistook it as a grocery list

not set up explicitly as complications, just come at times that may complicate things

Okay, I get your meaning! This makes much more sense in my GMing and allows people to catch clues and details surrounding the plot. And yes, I think I'll combine the materials I have and make one huge background plot versus smaller ones, so they're Intrigues about one huge thing. Keep it simpler that way. Obviously, there will be different facets of the same plot, so there should be plenty diverse clues and details to pick up on.

Cornered has been thrown around a LOT in this thread

We're just a bunch of boring old biddies, don't mind us.

I prefer Oddball or Oddy

you could call me OO but then it sounds like you're Ooh-ing

i once tried to be elwood, it didn't work, you don't get to choose Between Oddball_, "A Confused Oddy's Boyfriend" on Discord, and you, I'm starting to short-circuit.

I do think my opinions are important

smug fuck I second (third? fourth?) Ech's sentiments. Your questions and enthusiasm have really propelled me during the course of this RP's development. It's such a pleasure to have you here, especially since you're a newcomer to this "world," as it were!

Also, you're so funny.

are you going to make a whatever group chat

eh I think I'm against having one. I feel like the OOC Thread needs a reason to exist, because while I'm open to being contacted on Discord privately (and will put up my info in the next OP update), I want one cohesive place for questions, memes, and discussion on the forum; where outside people can feel encouraged to jump in and participate. You know that even if I say "no questions on Discord," that's either going to happen anyway or going to make having a Discord chat mute. Also, fuck Skype, so no on that too.

Besides, I feel all the chats disintegrate into part-time general chats anyway. And I'd like to spotlight Ech's previous words:

had Cornered's OOC followed the same trend every other OOC thread commits to (i.e., reserve all the fun discussions in private chats), I would have never bothered to stay here

bonus content

Oh cool! I hope you don't mind if I respond to it mainly in sarcastic quips and memes since she's not canon:

Spoiler:

Relaxation music

she has a fat, stubby tail

Same, girl.

Usually it's around one of her ears, sometimes it's around her tail

Pick a side, bitch.

Aggressively flowersmells at you

Background

Just a small town girl

She sounds so precious! Though I'm a bit confused as why she's into aromatherapy if she's against the simple farm life. Idk, maybe I'm just a city-slicker and equate gardening too much with agriculture. But I love that she has her own business, I think that's a really neat idea! I know plenty of people in jobs that have a "real passion career" they try to carry out on the side, and it's interesting to see this applied to a character!

Would've wanted to know what compelled her to work in the bistro, but since she's not canon, I guess that doesn't matter, lol.

Aromatherapy

I find this utterly fascinating, especially since it wasn't a required section. I can visualize her using therapist instincts and trying out her techniques in the pursuit of missions, and she gives people petal-coupons, oooo that was such a nice touch, I can imagine people giving her warm smiles as she tries to promote her small business and Carmine being like "what the fuck are you doing?"

Holly enjoys all things sensuous

Just like somebody else we know, eh?

Oh, soft-spoken but with that rich sense of command and knowledge, hm? Even though she's pretty bare bones and could be expanded, she's certainly not a personality I expected, but nonetheless very much enjoy.

Prompt

It's kinda funny imaging a Bulbasaur laying on her back like that, heh. I love that you incorporated Rorschach Inkplots! Very creative addition to the prompt, and it's super cute to see her think everything is a flower; that's very telling of how her psyche is obsessed with the concept of her "true" work.​

That's why you're my best friend, not any of these Cornered elitists.

i thought what we had was special

I should call you Opinionball

this isn't an Azurilland "bad-guys-v.-good-guys" deal either

gurl this A+ shade tho oooo

You can't anticipate seeing your roleplay through to the end if you can't visualize the end goal!

This, this, this! To go on a bit of a rant of my own, one of the things I really liked about Cornered and what draws me towards certain RPs in general is feasible end goals. The quickest way to set something up to be killed by inactivity is making it have no clear end, or having the end goal way out of sight.

Have P.C. be a film geek!

Did you mean: PJ, my bae.

I'm scrapping the betting pool entirely, methinks. Hm, that's kinda cute to think of though! I can imagine PJ running around thinking he's caught in the midst of one of his beloved B-Movie Horrors or Foreign Romance Films when things start to ramp up.

By your bias-driven logic, I'd melt.

Evidently, you'd also become a Mimikyu.

except we're not doing the 90's so fuck that

There was the beatniks, Rock and Roll, sex symbols, ffs there was counterculture in the 50's.

HE'S AN INK-KYU-BAE-TORR

I like betting

I could have PJ be an occasional event in certain missions and bet the player, so it'll have its incarnation somehow.

I'm dying.

But yeah, fuck you, Goro's mine

this post is so long but i spared nothing less for my 3,000th post​

 

[Junier]

Which fetish is that?

I imagine you saying this with a baton resting in your palm like a deranged Southern cop

ON TODAY'S EPISODE OF HIGHLANDERS:

Speaking of, we haven't seen you on Discord since you introduced to the Open Blue cast, Disc. :0

SHIT THEY FOUND ME OUT
I'm joking, I promise I'll log into Discord soon for that, whether it's today or tomorrow afternoon (considering I've got MORE SHIT to do)

But thank you, Daddy Kiyo, for not making a separate chat, not that I wouldn't have been strongly against the decision—I understand the pros as well as the cons; the latter overwhelm the former from my perspective—, I just wouldn't have participated in said chat room.

Holly

Come closer. a+ reference

• brb saving this playlist
• Haha, I like the inclusion of the bow not as a bowtie!
• >if you're curious about her tail, i'm not a furry like you
• I always liked it when lil' Grass Pokemon were described as "seedlings", is cute
• Strong, independent woman who's active in her community. Perfect. She really likes to busy herself with work, doesn't she? Perhaps to distract her from her dark secret.
• she can't do shit if it smells like shit
• Ayy, those masseuse capabilities. +1 for incorporating her natural attributes into her interests and career choice. (Would she actually put customers in her own bed though or would she have a special place to set them) Also, her ability to control the scents she exudes gives me mad Arommatise vibes, and that was the Pokemon I assumed she was initially before you revealed Holly was an Ivysaur. Too bad they're in separate egg groups; Arommatise would make an interesting family member!
• Right, where I see where the "Poison" fits into all of this. She's filthy. I saw that tilde near the end of the "Aromatherapy" section. She likes command. Jesus, someone hold me, these sinful words. I like this, though. You don't usually see the connection made between Ivysaur and sensuousness and... "persuasive scents", or even femininity in-general. I appreciate the uniquity here and I would've loved to see her in action.
• The detail about her "wide smiles" complimenting her broad face is also a nice touch.
• RORSCHACH. She likes flowerz. But that note about "demonstrating her aroma ability" scares me.
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Yeah, she cool

(symbolic representation of Ech as a featureless entity just taller than the abundant waves crashing into him)

With that in mind, since I chose to raise the player cap to 6 during a time when I thought there was going to be mission-based intrigues, I think I'm going to go back to 5 slots.

SPEAKING OF ANARCHY--
I'll respect your decision. I'm being 98.7% honest when I state that I am perfectly okay with not being accepted in for the sake of tighter proceedings for whoever does.

also was Nostalgia Critic really inspired by AVGN, was it vise versa, or were they already at the same time

CALLING

OUT

ORX

Why does everyone here think they're an "oddball", when everyone's the quirkster no one is

I HAVE TO THROW MY SHADE HERE BECAUSE I GOT BANNED FOR ACTING AUTISTIC

This, this, this! To go on a bit of a rant of my own, one of the things I really liked about Cornered and what draws me towards certain RPs in general is feasible end goals.

(coughs loudly in general direction of any journey RP that has ever existed)

And no, I did not mean PJ. Fuck you, I do not make mistakes.

But NO, what a loss. RIP Betting Pool, our first victim. Add it to the dumpsters with the wind chime.

That incarnation sounds sweet, though!

Evidently, you'd also become a Mimikyu.

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[img]https://images.puella-magi.net/6/6a/Lookin_pretty_QUALITY_there_coobs.jpg?20110423225228
being brit cone is suffering

BUT CADDY DESPISES ROCK 'N' ROLL
HNNNNNNNNNNNNNGH

also, >proud of 3000th post
i'm ashamed at 800

 

[Ech]

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Ew what is this abomination

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Ech tore it up tonight, honestly. I'm loving this insight, homie. You say you're not cognitively adept but by God are you bright and I love reading what you think. (And I'm also not the only person venting in this thread!)

was i truly venting, or was that just me throwing massive shade at someone who just refuses to join OTM

inb4 i turn out to be plastic and hypocrite my own words like literally everyone on Earth

also was Nostalgia Critic really inspired by AVGN, was it vise versa, or were they already at the same time

Every youtuber ripped off of Fox.

Spoiler:

- Name -- Holly

- Gender -- Female

Relaxation video game music playlist

- Appearance --

If you're curious, she has a fat, stubby tail. She wears a neat little bow in Finer Things's stripes of green, black, and white. Usually it's around one of her ears, sometimes it's around her tail.


- Moveset -- (( *Aggressively flowersmells at you* ))


- Background --
Holly's parents, Mr. and Mrs. Harlow, were farmers, so naturally Holly had to do a lot of farmwork to help out as a little seedling Bulbasaur. Though she was pressured to follow their family and become a farmer herself, Holly decided she hated that, and moved into a small Pokémon town instead.

It was hard living on her own, but she was glad to be out of the country and way from farmwork. She became self-employed as an aromatherapist, but also works as a town beautifier on the side. She tends to the local flora all around town, and protects it from harm. Holly runs a tiny aromatherapy wellness spa out of her own home.

However, she has a great deal of trouble getting enough customers in order to make a living. Mostly because it's difficult to advertise when you're just starting out. So, she decided to work part-time in a second job as well. A bistro, working as a server! She is in fact, very new to the bistro, possibly the most recent hire. Holly would do best in the conservatory among her fellow scented plants, and would do fine in the foyer too. She would surely do awful in the dirty smelly rooms.



- Aromatherapy -- As an aromatherapist, Holly has found a use for her natural abilities that makes her the happiest in life: helping others feel pleasant through the relaxation of pleasant scents.

First and foremost, Holly will settle her patient into a relaxed position, in a comfy bed or a peaceful garden or a warm bathtub.
Then, she has a variety of methods to administer her aromatherapy.

The first is probably the most obvious: the flower on her back releases a pleasant scent, filling the room for the patient to inhale. Holly's developed remarkable control over her scents, able to release different scents for different purposes on command. Through a biological process indescribable to anyone who doesn't have a flower as part of their body, Holly chooses the scent she wants and begins releasing it into the air.

The second is the use of her vines, long and slender green tendrils that snake out from beneath her leaves. Their high degree of prehensile movement makes them good for a light massage, and from the tips of each vine, Holly can release different plant oils, such as chamomile oil, rose oil, and lavender oil.

Holly claims she has a scent or an oil for almost anything that troubles you. Stress, anxiety, depression, fatigue, hyperactivity, allergies, stomachache, fever, congestion, body aches, dry skin, low libido...

If any customers of Finer Things are interested in Holly's aromatherapy spa, she plucks a single petal and gives it to them, telling them that it serves as a secret coupon for a free first session, if they come by~

In any case, while she probably won't be giving massages in Finer Things (for obvious reasons), she's still a walking talking source of calming, alleviating aromas. She's a rather nice member of the wait staff to interact based on this alone. Hopefully her personality only adds to it!



- Personality -- Holly enjoys all things sensuous. Under strict definition, this would probably make her a hedonist, but of course she'd rather not use that label, even if it's sort of true.

Not only does she enjoy all things sensuous on her own accord, she enjoys giving sensuous things to others too, which is how she found herself in the profession she's in today. Well, that and being inclined toward it thanks to her floral-based species.

She speaks with a rumbly, deep, yet subtly feminine voice that many of her kind have, rarely raising her voice. Though her methods come across as soothing, comforting, concerning herself with everyone's well-being, there's also an element of underlying...command. Holly enjoys taking control, and between her more persuasive scents and her vines, she has ample means to do so.

She's prone to wide smiles, the kind that creep from cheek to cheek on her broad face.



- Prompt --
•- Dr. Katz, a fragile aging Whismur toting large thick glasses and a graying soupcatcher mustache, is giving your character a psyche evaluation so that they may earn their license to work in the city. He doesn't do much but ask tedious, prying questions and mocks astonishment whenever you reveal anything deep. Play out your character's conversation with him in his typical therapist's office. (You may bunny Dr. Katz and his questions, but remember, I need to see more about your character and their thoughts/reactions than the doctor's!)

"Alright, Holly. Let's move on to something else. Tell me what you see here."

The elderly Whismur therapist takes hold of a stack of cards, and holds them to display the frontmost card toward Holly. It's a symmetrical inkblot.

The Ivysaur shifts in her seat, or rather, her lounge. This is the first time she's been on one of these psychiatrist couches. She could really get used to lying on something like this! For the time being, she shifts onto lying on her side so she can have a look at the inkblot.

"Oh! That looks like a water lily tulip."

"Oh?" Dr. Katz has a peek at the card, himself, from his own perspective.

"Yeah, from the side. They're actually called Kaumanniana Tulips, but from the side they look more like a water lily than a tulip. So they got nicknamed!"

"Hm, I see. I suppose I should expect you to be knowledgeable about such things. How about this one?" He flips the card to the back of the scak, revealing a new inkblot.

"Mm, that looks like a geranium, I think."

"How about this?"

"Ahhh… Oh, a cymbidium orchid!"

"And this...?"

"Ooh, that's a snapdragon!" Holly exclaims, smiling and leaning forward, getting into this little game.

Dr. Katz exhales, exasperated. The cards are lowered to better reveal his face. "Miss Holly, before I continue, are you going to name a type of flower for every image here?"

"...Were they not supposed to be?"

"...Holly, tell me about your childhood."

Holly lies back on the couch, squishing her flower petals below her back (they'll bounce back, don't worry!) and exposing her belly to the ceiling.

((Talks about farming family, hating that, moving out on her own, developing
aromatherapy talents and doing research, getting her own place and renovating it.
Doc asks her to demonstrate aroma ability.
Asks her what her fears are.))

holly gives me an impression that she is secretly a sadistic serial killer who leaves flowers on her victims.

i am joking, please don't kill me and a place flower on my corpse

What was that work, is it the aria you mentioned?
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The Milotic tights were just directly ripped based off of a picture made from another artist, who is also on PC, that I happen to be a fan of. I unfonrtunately can't share the work here, cuz I don't have permission and she can blackmail me if I do.

Anyways, SHOUT OUT TO SWEET DREAMS, WHO IS A SUPERIOR ARTIST TO ME IN EVERY WAY EVEN IF SHE WON'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. she won't read this thread so I can express my adulation as much as I want without having to face any severe consequences

I hate the inverse of this too, like the fact Orx thinks he shouldn't apply since he has some weird sense of "seniority." What nonsense. I want a batch to choose from, not people to back down because they see others gunning for spots. Encourage c o m p e t i t i o n.
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do u hear that, orx.

at least drop in to give kiyo more green berets

eh I think I'm against having one. I feel like the OOC Thread needs a reason to exist
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But a private chatroom is the safest place for me to share hot smut of Fem Lombardi without getting banned.

this post is so long but i spared nothing less for my 3,000th post​

pfft, look at you, being so proud of hitting your milestone. i bet most of your posts were just non-sequiturs about pineapples, bashing a demographic braindead people could make fun of or just trying to emulate Fox's cringe, you dirty little troll. in a few more posts, i'll finally hit 200 posts and I ASSURE you that all of those posts were made to be constructive and insightful, completely devoid of any depraved content you may try to shame me with. I am an honest, hard-working person who doesn't cheese their way through life.​

(also fun fact: i only posted in the RPT and only 5 posts were made in IC. I clearly am the best RPer ever.)

 

[Afterglow Ampharos]

and a furry

They're Pokemon dude, they all fall under that umbrella to some degree.
Yes I'm calling us all furries. The truth comes out

I hate the inverse of this too, like the fact Orx thinks he shouldn't apply since he has some weird sense of "seniority." What nonsense. I want a batch to choose from, not people to back down because they see others gunning for spots.

Yes. True.

Encourage c o m p e t i t i o n.

No. A thousand times no. If it's a competition against others, a fight of who's-the-best to get into the game to begin with, not only do seniority and familiar faces get chosen over new faces every. time, it also makes me more anxious and pessimistic about my chances.

Between Oddball_, "A Confused Oddy's Boyfriend" on Discord, and you, I'm starting to short-circuit.

How do I change names? That's not even a joke, I'm seriously regretting this alias for multiple reasons, one of them being this Oddball with an underscore that has way more brand recognition than me.

Your questions and enthusiasm have really propelled me during the course of this RP's development. It's such a pleasure to have you here, especially since you're a newcomer to this "world," as it were!

Also, you're so funny.

Thank you!​

eh I think I'm against having one. I feel like the OOC Thread needs a reason to exist, because while I'm open to being contacted on Discord privately (and will put up my info in the next OP update), I want one cohesive place for questions, memes, and discussion on the forum; where outside people can feel encouraged to jump in and participate.

Ok by me, boss. 👍

She sounds so precious! Though I'm a bit confused as why she's into aromatherapy if she's against the simple farm life. Idk, maybe I'm just a city-slicker and equate gardening too much with agriculture.

Yeah, gardening and agriculture are sorta close, but aromatherapy is not associated with gardening, so the premise is incorrect.

I find this [Aromatherapy section] utterly fascinating, especially since it wasn't a required section. I can visualize her using therapist instincts and trying out her techniques in the pursuit of missions, and she gives people petal-coupons, oooo that was such a nice touch, I can imagine people giving her warm smiles as she tries to promote her small business and Carmine being like "what the fuck are you doing?"

Haha, I know right? My only concern is that it could turn her into a bit of a one-trick pony when it comes to interacting with guests, which is the main reason Cadbury got all the way finished and Holly did not.

It's kinda funny imaging a Bulbasaur laying on her back

Ivysaur. Gawd Kiyo did you even read my profile </3

[*]>if you're curious about her tail, i'm not a furry like you

I got most of my favourite fanart from the era before we knew what Ivysaur's butt looked like (the sprites didn't show it), and many imagined a tail there. We now know the tail is non-canon but god damn is it cute so I'm using it.

[*]I always liked it when lil' Grass Pokemon were described as "seedlings", is cute

Me: "Wait, did I write that?" *Scrolls up*

[*]Ayy, those masseuse capabilities. +1 for incorporating her natural attributes into her interests and career choice. (Would she actually put customers in her own bed though or would she have a special place to set them)

She renovated a room in her house to be an aromatherapy massage room. Just until she can get her own proper workplace. Right now it's got more of a small homey vibe so that's fine, but it's less than professional. She's having trouble getting a customer base since she's kinda new to the city.

[*]Right, where I see where the "Poison" fits into all of this. She's filthy. I saw that tilde near the end of the "Aromatherapy" section. She likes command. Jesus, someone hold me, these sinful words. I like this, though. You don't usually see the connection made between Ivysaur and sensuousness and... "persuasive scents", or even femininity in-general. I appreciate the uniquity here and I would've loved to see her in action.
[*]The detail about her "wide smiles" complimenting her broad face is also a nice touch.

I'm glad you two peoples like her so much! Should I take this as encouragement to fill her out all the way into an SU, or is James Cadbury better suited? Keeping in mind I gotta have a character deep and diverse enough to fill a whole RP, and I'm not sure which one fills that.

Orx

Orx

GDI NO good lord I already told you what I wanna be called and you just

 

[Junier]

ech is the forum member we should all aspire to be

that screenshot was GOOD ART by the w-- actually, I recall Jauntier made it. Therefore, it's shit art because Jauntier is shitty and gay.

also, i saw you using my ILLEGIBLE font, you cheeky ****. keep it up and i'll start using SLACKEY IN ALL CAPS WITH NOT A SINGLE PINCH OF REGRET OR IRONY JUST TO SEE THE SORRY VM MESSAGES BEGGING FOR MERCY

speaking of "no one is going to read this thread", time to indulge in some simple-minded shitposting: SHOUT OUT TO SIMPLE FLIPS. SWEET DREAMS ARE MADE OF THIIIS

Okay, now we can have a rightful decision. The setup of "Off the Menu" opens the potentiality for a greatly diverse cast, considering the massive amount of official Pokemon, each with its own bit of lore comprising it, so I'd be interested to hear, similar to OO's (and I guess Ech's) predicament, what characters other people would have potentially liked to play or are possibly vying to choose between.

wait Oddy posted

Yes I'm calling us all furries

I'm sorry, are you imposing your beliefs on me?

and you could find plenty of "knowledge" on Ivysaur's backside if you looked in the right places

Yes. True.No. A thousand times no. If it's a competition against others, a fight of who's-the-best to get into the game to begin with, not only do seniority and familiar faces get chosen over new faces every. time, it also makes me more anxious and pessimistic about my chances.

To be fair, if a game master had any decency, he/she would be able to look past acting out of nepotism and base his/her decisions off of the solidity of the cast. I suppose, based on your claim, then, we have a sincere lack of decent game masters on Pokecommunity, though that can always change! I'd say "Kiyo wouldn't do that" but he can speak for himself.

I'll also argue that the contrasting method of accepting sign-ups—acting on a "first-come-first-serve" basis—is even worse as it relies entirely on serendipity. Whoever's on at the time gets in, essentially, "if his/her app is good"; that would be the immediate counter, presumably, but also consider that an acceptable app doesn't necessarily need to take days to create. You can get a character idea that technically fulfills the criteria of the roleplay but, in other regards, is mediocre. It doesn't stand out and it doesn't hint at anything interesting coming out of said character in the approaching future, which is what an exceptional character app should do. It should be intriguing!

I think the best way to run a roleplay is to set a clear and fair deadline and sort through the provided sign-ups once said deadline is reached and help out applicants along the way if they have the proaction to ask; as a GM, you know what you're getting and you also give people an equal chance.

But regarding your characters, I honestly like both of them, and the only reason I wouldn't even consider Holly for a second is because Cadbury's name is Cadbury and that is too fantastic of a happenstance for me to overlook, so I'd stick with the Linoone! I'd cast that line out again about merging character elements but, now that I have a better grasp of who your apothecary aromatherapist is, I think a lot of things about her are oriented around her species; her occupation and hobbies, the fact that she might be a bit hedonistic? I do really like that about her, though.

tl;dr "it's your decision in the end" cliche, i'm 6 years old and can't make consistent decisions

QOTD: WHAT SHOULD ORDINARYODDBALL CHANGE HIS FORUM USERNAME TOO?

 

[Afterglow Ampharos]

I'm sorry, are you imposing your beliefs on me?

No I'm imposing them on all our charact--
Wait, you're an ice cream cone.
You're in the clear.

the contrasting method of accepting sign-ups—acting on a "first-come-first-serve" basis

I wasn't trying to argue in favour of this, I'm sorry if it came off that way.

To be fair, if a game master had any decency, he/she would be able to look past acting out of nepotism and base his/her decisions off of the solidity of the cast.

In a perfect world, yes, but characters built by people already familiar to us seem like more solid characters. It's a human psyche thing. You can read about it under "In-group favouritism/bias." And I have never, ever seen a GM on any Pokémon roleplaying forum (mind you I haven't been here that long but I've been on a couple others) turn down an application from a friend of theirs, and I rarely see them turn down players who have been in previous games of theirs.

And this rejection is a real, tangible thing that affects the players going forward. The friend of mine who introduced me to Pokemon Tabletop United, he doesn't even want to apply for games anymore if there's a limited number of signup spots, because the repeated rejection is bloody painful. He's been burned too many times.

Anyway, this is a moot point unless we get three or more applicants.

Also, if we only get one or zero more applicants, I'm totally applying with both James and Holly. If we've got the empty space, [insert why not both meme here]
I'm mad with power creativity

Hm, if we don't count the name coincidence, then I'm putting Disclosed down for a neutral on that James-or-Holly-better-suited vote. Anyone else?

QOTD: WHAT SHOULD ORDINARYODDBALL CHANGE HIS FORUM USERNAME TO?

The name I have on Discord. The dissonance between them is the second of the reasons I want to change.

 

[Who's Kiyo?]

I imagine a baton resting in your palm like a deranged Southern cop

a private chatroom to share hot smut of Fem Lombardi

I'm calling us all furries

you could find plenty of "knowledge" on Ivysaur's backside if you looked in the right places

i dont want to have to kinkshame this whole thread

I like the inclusion of the bow not as a bowtie!

Any type of bow or thing that gets across the message of "staff" is acceptable, so I like that someone tried branching out, too!

lil' Grass Pokemon were described as "seedlings"

*Promotes* I also am a huge fan of writing that incorporates that pokemon are an array of different species, and so they wouldn't necessarily follow human colloquialisms.

Perhaps to distract her from her dark secret

"ive seen some shit"

I'll respect your decision

I appreciate the majority of your honest self, I just want this to be tight, make it easy to run and expand on.

BUT CADDY DESPISES ROCK 'N' ROLL

MAYBE THAT'S HIS SECRET SHUSHHHHH

Ew what is this abomination

Don't worry, it's dead now.

throwing massive shade at someone who just refuses to join OTM

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omigosh sorry guys, my computer just spazzed out and uploaded these photos to my post!!

Every youtuber ripped off of Fox

Thanks for watching my Minecraft Let's Play.

SWEET DREAMS, A SUPERIOR ARTIST TO ME IN EVERY WAY

Imitation is the highest form of flattery, but cumming all over a thread you know the love of your life won't see is desperate.

A thousand times no

That was how the sign-ups were always going to work ... ? Unless you can propose another model, since I dislike first-come-first-serve, all I can say is that I'm not a nepotist. I've put a shit-ton of work into this and making everything flow and swapping out ideas for others, so I want quality as much as anybody else, regardless of who's playing whom.

How do I change names?

There's a thread for it: (here)

gardening and agriculture are sorta close, but the premise is incorrect

well shuck me like an ear of corn i stand corrected

could turn her into a bit of a one-trick pony

I can see that, if it were a canon SU that would be one of the things I'd be looking to eliminate: the fact she sounds a little one-dimensional. I would've grilled her with more questions than Cadbury.

Gawd Kiyo did you even read my profile </3

baby come back it was a slip up D:

Should I take this as encouragement to fill her out

eh While she was an enjoyable read, and I wish heard more about Cadbury's quirks like you described Holly's, I have a feeling Cadbury is more fleshed out and has more mileage to him.

I already told you what I wanna be called

> Orx as in Orx of Twinleaf, a separate member from you, who has posted here
> Gawd Ordy did you even read my thread </3

it's shit art because Jauntier is shitty and gay

set a clear and fair deadline, help out applicants along the way

+1 to all this tasty good stuff yum The reason I wanted people to come and workshop their SUs early was so they could feel confident and get all that stuff out of the way so they wouldn't have to rush later, because once the OOC was out and the deadline established, that was it, gurl. Anything that wasn't submitted at least as a WIP would be discarded.

WHAT SHOULD ORDINARYODDBALL CHANGE HIS FORUM USERNAME TOO?

Ordinary Orchard, so either way, he's Ordy. Or Orchy.

you're an ice cream cone. You're in the clear

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I beg to differ!

i searched up "sexy ice cream" for this joke you better appreciate it

You can read about it under "In-group favouritism/bias."

This sounds like a lot of projected fear, so I'd stop worrying about it. especially since i have no friends that i havent stabbed to death​