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Pie Mafia [Endgame]

Bardothren said:
Did I not say earlier today to throw away all the logic I had earlier?
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You mean exactly what a scum-sided player who had just made obvious scum plays would do? You know, exactly how I've covered my ass several times.

Now good night. I'm used up all my brainpower for today, and I gotta get ready for another bad day tomorrow.
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Sure but that's not going to absolve you from suspicion.
 
I would say that a good place to start looking for leads would be the Wiicked wagon, but there was a lot of people on that wagon so idk. I'd say Lucario stands out as he's only posting to sheep along with whatever the bandwagon is, but idk if that's because he's a newbie. But then again, we can't really keep letting him off the hook. What if he is maf?

I agree with GP about Bard as well. He was just so insistent on lynching Wiicked and that was weird, given that it was based on wrong logic, Wiicked switching votes a few times and having convenient NAs (granted, that last one is a bit suss but still, how can you be 100% certain he is maf based on just that?). He also called me out for joining a wagon I agreed with on D1 (and I wasn't even late. Mine was the vote after his), but then he calls me out again for thinking for myself about joining a wagon and deciding against it. He was nearly as insistent that everyone should be suss of me as he was that Wiicked should be lynched.
 
Current Day 3 Vote Count:

jdthebud - 1 (Bardothren)

Voteless: Aquacorde, gimmepie, Salzorrah, Mr Cat Dog, NightKrow, Bidoof FTW, Johnny, Abby, Lucario, Seth Rollins, Altaria, Nina

Abby and Bidoof FTW must vote today or they will be removed or subbed out. Please remember to use the correct format!

There are approximately 24 hours remaining in the phase.

Bardothren said:
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Day 3 Vote Count #1
 
So, I was originally going to vote Abby based on his behaviour so far, but GP's logic does make a bit of sense. Part of me still wants to; if we're going to end up lynching a townie, I'd rather lynch an unhelpful one (who has admitted that he knows nothing!) rather than one that could prove beneficial towards the end. In terms of general reads, I'm currently at:

Town: gimmepie, Seth, NightKrow
No clue (please post more!): Salzorrah, Bidoof FTW, Altaria, TheCapsFan, Nina, Aquacorde, Johnny, Lucario, Altaria
Mafia/Pie O'Clock: Abby, Bardothren

I wish some of the people in the 'no clue' line would post a bit more, otherwise I'll have to move them into my 'evil' column. Gonna wait until the end of the day to vote.

I've also put together (i.e. copy/pasted) a list of roles still left in the game, as well as my theories as to which pie is which role. Any further theories would be much appreciated.

Doughnut Pie - cop/gimmepie?
Apple Pie - doctor?
Game Pie - tracker
Shepherd's Pie - watcher
Pecan Pie - vigilante
Peach Pie - oracle
Cheesecake - roleblocker?
Lemon Meringue Pie - ???
Pumpkin Pie - ???
Black Bottom Pie - bulletproof/Seth?
Coffee Pie - alert townie
Shaving Cream Pie - ???
Whipped Cream Pie (one lynched) - vanilla townie

Sushi Pie - something that can visit people without leaving a trace/ninja/silencer?
π - hooker?
American Pie - watcher
Poison Pie - poisoner?

Pie O'Clock - who the fuck knows?/clockmaker
 
That's a pretty damn good post Mr Cat Dog

Uhh I'll vote for jd because I want to see what happens. Like really, just to see what will happen, might give us a few info.

I don't believe Bard is scum though Johnny can be one I don't think he is either.

gimmepie said:
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Can you clarify more on your Bard read? I might change my vote but for now

[#VOTE] jdthebud

Definitely town are GP and Krow here. I don't really have scumread but I didn't read the post I just saw a bit of what's up there so I'll read more and I might get convinced on Bard
 
Lucario said:
I don't know who to vote, I'm entirely clueless about this
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Dude, same here. I wanna vote JD again since he's actually getting more votes than just from me this time around, but I'm not 100% sure yet. I'm pretty curious about what would happen and I seriously don't know who else to vote for right now
 
Lucario said:
I don't know who to vote, I'm entirely clueless about this
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So you don't have any thoughts about anyone? Any opinions on me, Bard, Cat Dog, Johnny or Abby (or anyone else but those are the main people being talked about right now)? Is there anyone you think might be lying, hiding something or not acting in the town's best interests?

Personally, I think Bard could be scum (for reasons already stated by GP and myself,) I think Cat Dog and Abby are town but I'm slightly less sure of that after today's events, and I'm leaning strongly town on Johnny.

Oh, and I'd better join this bandwagon that I agree with before it's too late, might make me scummy otherwise apparently ;) [#Vote] Bardothren

And also, a thought on a role. Do you guys think the Shaving Cream Pie could be a Miller?

Edit: @Bard - sure?
@Altaria - Same as Lucario, any thoughts at all?
 
It's like a whipped cream pie but fake I guess?

Also- the phrase "an apple a day keeps the doctor away" makes me think that the apple pie probaby isn't the doctor:/
 
Johnny said:
Anyway, I'm curious about this townreads of yours. See, I have problem with this post and I'm gonna mention it.

First: your townreads are basically people confirmed to be innocent.
Second: the no clue list is pretty much everyone.
And third: your mafia list also happens to be two players that are currently being scumread by other people.

So you see, my problem with your post is that is relatively large, but it isn't saying much. It makes me think you're just trying to blend in as someone who is actually contributing, without actually doing it, get it?
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I get your concerns, and I'll address them now. On the reads, I probably should have split the 'no clue' list into 'inactives which I genuinely have no idea about' (Altaria, TheCapsFan, Nina, Lucario) and 'torn between town/mafia' (you, Salzorrah, Bidoof FTW, Aquacorde). You're a very good player, which is why I'm leaning town on you, but not enough to put you in the town group (as well as Aquacorde); Gunner is a bit more inactive than I've normally seen, so if I had to choose, I'd possibly move to the evil column; I get conflicting vibes from Bidoof's posts, so am genuinely unsure.

I might as well reveal, as I don't believe that it would affect the outcome anyway. I'm a whipped cream pie: same as Lycan, a vanilla townie. The main reason I'm posting a fair bit is because this is all I can do. I appreciate that this is exactly the role that the mafia would claim (being that it can't be cc'd; there are probably a few more of us out there), but it's the truth. I can't really lie to make me seem more important, as that would put a greater target on my back. I understand if I become a lynch target, but at least the town will be able to get some info from my death should it arise.

Because of my role, I'm trying to post more than I usually would to find out information that way, rather than relying on NAs, which I don't have. As you've possibly gathered from some of my posts in this game, I'm still quite new at this, and am definitely learning things as I go (e.g. thinking Seth was poisoned when bulletproof; trusting Twiggy when I shouldn't have). Producing reads is harder than I thought it would be! (In my other two games thus far - RIP! - I tended to agree with other people's reads by the time it came for me to post.) I wish I could say that I'm some tactical mastermind at this, but I'm not quite there... yet! One day. So things like my big-ass list - which, compared to some of my posts on PC, isn't nearly as big-ass as it could be! gimmepie should have a look at some of my posts in the staff forums when I was there for truly big-ass posts - are my way of contributing. If you have any better ideas of how I should do so, I'm all ears!

Hopefully I've alleviated some of your concerns, Johnny, but happy to answer any more questions should they arise.
Abby said:
I wouldn't recommend a JD vote
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Why? Do you know something, or is this just intuition on your part? Unless you're a wonderful jester, I don't get whatever strategy you're using!
NightKrow said:
And also, a thought on a role. Do you guys think the Shaving Cream Pie could be a Miller?
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That's the one! I knew there was a role like that, but couldn't remember what it was called! That's my hunch, at least.
 
As much as it's easy to just follow a bandwagon, I'm not really comfortable with continuing this trend as we're so far down. It's easy to just sit inactively and vote for whoever but we're getting too willy-nilly about this and keep following the same people.

So here's a second train of thought. Johnny doesn't seem as concerned or defensive about any of this going on because the spotlight isn't on him and he's in the chair to win.
I'm sus about anyone past or present who wants to vote JD for fun. Now is not the time to play around with the GM, as again, a Baker can only help the us, the REAL pies. I'm not so sure about Seth, but Altaria has done it and now mentioned it again twice, as well as the "I don't know what's going on". How can she be having so much fun if she doesn't know what's going on unless she's mafia about to enjoy her win?

Nightkrow seemed very defensive, like a defensive towny who has something useful for us. I can agree with Mr Cat Dog being a vanilla townie who wants to post a lot because there's not much else they can do, I did that as well my first game. Bard legitimately seems defeated for reading everything wrong and so many innos dying.

I have feelings on Anna, but no proof. Lucario is probably legitimately confused.

So I want to vote for Johnny or Altaria, but I will go with Altaria for now. The basis being that if Johnny is townie, he'd be more useful than her.
[#Vote] Altaria
 
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