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    I'm currently working my way through the 1st series of Pokemon, and have just finished watching the episode where Ash and his Primeape win the P1 Championship Belt. Then he gives it to the fighting gym trainer to 'make it into a P1 champion'.

    Is it me or didn't Primeape just slaughter every Pokemon in sight?

    Why does he need this guy to train it up? Also just at the same time as Primeape starts listening to Ash and would do anything for him.

    If he kept the Primeape it would have been such a major contributor to his team. This just seemed a bit perplexing to me thats all, so apologies for going too deep into a pretty simple story.

    While I'm at it, may as well extend this thread to others, so feel free to name some bone headed moments that you've seen in any of the Pokemon series and thought 'what the heck is he doing?' =P

    EDIT: I'm a prat, this should have been posted in the TV show section. Sorry mods, feel free to move it, my bad. See its not just Ash who messes up xD
     
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    Those episodes where they befriend a pokemon and then tell it just to leave and not join the team.

    And when Ash goes to every Rock gym Brock always has to say about water and grass being good against rock.
     
    Whenever Ash wins using some cheap unorthodox method.

    Like in the first gym battle. Cheapo.
     
    I Find it funny that it takes them ages to walk around the region but only a small while to return to Pallet town.
     
    Also how he didnt know a thing about Pokemon when he had already started his journey...

    "Oh I forgot you have to weaken pokemon before you catch it"

    And not knowing what a pokemon center was when Pikachu was fried.
     
    They needed moar screentime for the starters and Pikachu. An interesting Pokemon like Primape would take away their screentime, what with it beating everyone up and everything. What Pidgeotto?
     
    Interesting you should mention Pidgeotto. Notice how Ash just abandoned it after it evolved? This whole thing about Primeape and Pidgeot is actually part of a strange trend I've noticed with Ash. Now, we've seen trainers such as Damien and more recently Paul who have abandoned Pokemon that were too weak for battle, but Ash doesn't seem to realize that he has the opposite problem. After he's gotten a truly powerful Pokemon on his team, he abandons it. Occasionally, it may return for tough battles in which it's needed, but Ash hardly ever lets his heavy sweepers stay on his team for long.

    Specific examples:
    The aformentioned Primeape and Pidgeot
    Charizard, after he'd started to obey Ash (late Orange Islands, left in early Johto)
    Snorlax (brought back a few times, but only on his regular team during Orange Islands)
    Lapras (debatable if this one counts, though)
    (note how Ash left his whole team except Pikachu with Oak before setting off for Hoenn, a horrible decision in my opinion)
    Sceptile (after it evolved, he only kept it for part of the Battle Frontier, then left it with Oak)
     
    Jamie006 said:
    (note how Ash left his whole team except Pikachu with Oak before setting off for Hoenn, a horrible decision in my opinion)
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    His Johto team was his weakest and worst team he ever had. Getting rid of them was a smart decision, they were jokes in the Johto league and Ash had to rely on Charizard, Squirtle and Bulbasaur to save him there.

    Sceptile (after it evolved, he only kept it for part of the Battle Frontier, then left it with Oak)
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    Wrong, he had Sceptile for the entire BF season and left it and his other Pokemon at Oaks before he headed out to sinnoh.
     
    Regarding Sceptile, it was a Grovyle for about half the Battle Frontier, then it evolved. I was referring to the time between when it evolved and when Ash went to Sinnoh, which I think was only about half of the Battle Frontier.

    And with the Johto team, while I agree that leaving Cyndaquil and Totodile behind was a good idea, why Ash didn't take Charizard, Heracross, Snorlax, etc. (the good Pokemon he had) with him escapes me. Same with Sceptile and Sinnoh. While Charizard kind of has an excuse in the form of his new home, Ash has absolutely no reason for leaving Sceptile behind before going to Sinnoh, and the same counts for Snorlax and Heracross, both of which can be really good physical attackers, and Snorlax is really the only defensive tank he's got.
     
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    Whenever Ash wins using some cheap unorthodox method.

    Like in the first gym battle. Cheapo.
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    Yeah... I hated that episode... with a passion. *slight exaggeration, but you get my point*

    And ukballer has a good point. When I watched that episode, I was VERY confused.
     
    Omigosh... I remember first seeing that Primape episode back in '98, and that same
    thing bugged me back then, just like it bugs me now. =_=; Granted, I never liked Primeape, anyhoo.
    Still, Ash always seems to toss aside his strongest ones.. I mean, I know its so more can be introduced, but geez.

    He might actually win one of the Pokemon Leagues sometime, if he just kept his evolved Pokemon.

    I won't go into everything that bugs me, though.. xD; That would take too long.
     
    I saw the first episode of Pokemon before I got yellow version, or even looked at a guide or anything.

    "Lol I bet I should use Pikachu like the show to whoop Brock's butt"
    *Thunder shock on Onix*
    *Does not affect Onix*
    'Ohshi...' was my reaction IIRC.

    Darn Ash and his misleading luck. >:[
     
    I think it's odd that he releases his Pokemon once they become great battlers....Butterfree, Charizard(not really released, but you get the point), Pidgeot, Lapras, and Primeape(as already mentioned). Sure, I understand leaving them at the lab so he can start a new journey. Those Pokemon can be called back to him at any time, heh.

    I hope he releases Pikachu next! =D
     
    Actually, if we're going to count Lapras as "released" (I put it down as "debatable" because it was stated that Ash only kept it until he could reunite it with its family, which he did), shouldn't we count his Larvitar in that category as well? He got it from an egg and kept it until he found its mother. Now I know Larvitar wouldn't be considered a really powerful sweeper, but if Ash had hung onto it it could have completely dominated the Hoenn League and Battle Frontier as a Tyranitar.
     
    You mean everything Ash does?

    *Ahem*

    Most specifically the thing that bugs me (that hasn't been discussed; the releasing good Pokemon and beating Grounds with Electric attacks while claiming Rock is the immune type, which it isn't) is how he always uses the Pokedex on EVERY Pokemon he sees, even if it is their fifteenth repeat appearance. I swear, one day he'll turn around and be like, "Hey a Pikachu! I've never seen one of those before!" and pull out Dexter.
     
    Actually, recalling what Ash has released in the past and the really powerful Pokemon he could have had, this is the team I'd be traveling around with if I were him:

    Charizard
    Sceptile
    Lapras
    Tyranitar (from the aforementioned Larvitar he hatched, note that since he hatched it, he had every right to keep it)
    Snorlax
    Gengar (could have evolved from the Haunter he befriended at Pokemon Tower, assuming it would eventually learn to obey him)
     
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