Frozocrone
Fighting a bigger fight
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1."Kindly tell me where XY beats the first eighteen episodes of Best Wishes in that regard then. " ->
Huh ? You guys are comparing XY SEASON 3 with S&M SEASON 1 that's why I said that it's not fair and actually the firsts ratings of BW were fantastic (9.3) but got lower and lower really fast... While XY kept around 4-5-6 during the first season and 4-5 during the second, BW season 2 on the other hands got a lot of time lower than 3. XY season 1 also did better ratings than some episodes of D/P season 4... If I follow your logic then Japanese liked XY more than D/P ?
2. I know the numbers are fine for both of them , I just don't liked how you guys acted like Japanese didn't like XY because it's totally wrong , some of them like XY , some of them like S&M , some of them like both , it works like it works here.
I really want to know where XY hit <2.0 because Bulbapedia list BW077 as the lowest episode ever in the Pokemon anime.
We also got an interview by the director of XY&Z after the saga was over... First time a director was interviewed since Takeshi Shudo in 2005 I believe ? Why did they do that ? The magazine actually paid the XY director to talk about a show that is not loved at all (according to you) ? Those guys are really weird ! :P
3."OS and XY make sense because of primary and recency effect. Also goes to show that XY isn't nearly as liked as other sagas by the fact OS makes the top 100." ->
OS is a legendary saga for everybody who love Pokemon , of course it's in the top100 and others saga ARE NOT in the top 500, only XY&Z is in the top 200,it's a poll from 1980 to 2016 so Japanese could have voted for D/P or AG easily but no, they only voted for XY&Z and OS instead.
4."Serena only got her own segment because the presenters on the show asked who someone's favourite character was." ->
Come on... Do you really think they would have allowed Shoko to have this segment if her favorite character was Iris (no disrespect to her I actually like this character) ? The show was prepared , they knew exactly what they were doing and what the fans wanted , don't be stupid... Why did they asked only Shoko about her favorite character (especially when every japanese knew since 2014 that she loves Serena) ? Why not the others guest ? Why only Shoko ? They knew Serena was popular, they did this on purpose, I don't even want to talk about the Serena music box and all these stuffs because you seem to forget to be objective when you don't like a character...
Oh and no comments from you about Serena's voice actress ? I still want to know why she was there instead of the "so loved" Alola characters who are currently in the show. If it's not popularity and love from the audience for Serena and XY&Z, I don't know what is it, especially considering the fact that she is not a part of the new show. (for the 10th anniversary special, they brought back Misty's VA at that time... I wonder which character was loved and popular before Dawn come...Nah according to you , it's random)
5."I wouldn't be surprised to see Greninja and Serena win tbqh, recency effect at work and the fact a lot of the OS nostalgia fans are put off by the movie because of the fact Misty and Brock were essentially replaced by Makato and Souji." ->
The movie was well received in Japan , of course, if they would have used Brock and Misty instead , the profit would have been better but even without them, the movie was still well received in Japan, they are not the type of people to complain anyway, only the US got mad about it and I perfectly understand.
When Japan like Serena and Greninja more it's all about recency ? What about B/W ? Did Iris and Cilan were liked like that after the end of B/W except for their popular voice actors ? I thought the ratings meant everything ? I can agree that it's a part but recency is only a small part of the thing. Don't mistake your opinions with the facts, that's all I have to say on this topic, now carry on and emphasis your love for S&M by their (poor for a new show) ratings if you want.
1) Uhh...you realise that ever since XY70 (I think that's when Goodra left) the anime never got more than 3.7 documented? The point is XY failed to maintain viewership and while that's expected to some degree, it's not expected losing ~2m halfway way through. Yokai Watch was also taking off by that point which gave it a lot of viewers.
2) Here. It's the first half of Ash vs Alain for reference
For future reference, don't trust Bulbapedia for information. It's a wiki. Anyone can edit it.
Also I'm aware that not all of Japan hated XY and adore SM. I only use Japan as a broad generalisation which I really shouldn't do but it's convenient all the same. The main ratings the anime is interested in are in the child demographics anyway and you have to question whether kids prefer serious anime with lots of action or anime that light-hearted and makes them laugh.
As for the interview...because the magazine wanted to? Because it was the most recent saga? Because there was a huge backlash when Ash lost? Because of Amour? There are many reasons why they could have done it, take your pick, even if you want, take because the magazine liked XY.
3) Fine. Wrong choice of words on my part.
Although why being the 209th best anime is such an achievement, please enlighten me.
4) She's one of the presenters of Pokemon Sunday. Yes, I expected a segment from her. And Serena's VA did a voice over, she wasn't on the show.
5) Iris and Cilan are liked in Japan. Predominately due to VAs, especially for Cilan. That's not the case with the dubbed variants.
> poor for a new show
You literally said you know the numbers are fine for both of them, now they're poor?