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Project Spartan revealed as Microsoft Edge

Starry Windy

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    Microsoft has revealed that Project Spartan is now known as Microsoft Edge, the browser that will be used in Windows 10, which also serves to replace Internet Explorer. It is said to have the "e" logo just like it was in Internet Explorer, but a bit different. Plus, it will also support extensions just like in Firefox and Google Chrome.

    What's your opinion on this newly-announced browser from Microsoft? Do you think Edge will catch up with the other modern browsers?
     
    The "e" logo is good—regardless of its terrible history with Internet Explorer—as people are already accustomed to the "e" referring to internet. The first thing my grandma looks for in a computer when she wants to search google is the iconic "e", and because of that it took her a while to adjust that she's supposed to look for a compass on OS X and not a letter. 😂

    I'm not sure about about catching up just yet, but Edge has managed to get ahead of Chrome in JavaScript benchmarks.
     
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    I may stick to Chrome for now, but we'll wait and see what Edge will offer us. It is interesting to hear they are keeping that iconic "e" but still going to redesign it to make it look fresh at the same time.
     
    Internet Explorer does support extensions (I'm looking at you, Adblock Plus), although it's something that is not very known.

    Yeah, I'll stick with Chrome for now. Microsoft, if you can convince me to switch, then I will.
     
    I don't really have an opinion on such a thing right now other than "oh, sounds cool." Gonna have to see it in action before anything else. :P I'm not even going to entertain the thought of switching until that time.

    (Although I actually am interested to see how this will do compared to the current IE!)
     
    It's still improved IE, but I rather stick with firefox and chrome. Until more issue need fixing before switching to edge
     
    No, it will be insecure piece of crap like IE, only difference is the name.

    I don't know about that, but all browsers are rather insecure, anyway. Where else do you find a need for patching them for eternity?

    The only browser that can be truly considered secure is...nothing, really.

    And, no, it's not just a difference in name. The main engine has had compatibility bits removed out - a lot of things that used to be part of Internet Explorer are no longer in Edge, and, boy, what a speedup does it bring! Right now, the latest Edge builds should be either on par or faster than a Google Chrome Canary build.

    And you still have the excellent graphical performance that has been introduced in Internet Explorer 9 and refined upon in later revisions, too.

    I think I'll use Edge once Windows 10 is officially out. Windows 10 is kind of funny on my computers right now, but then again, they're pre-release software. Bugs are to be expected at such a state.
     
    I don't know about that, but all browsers are rather insecure, anyway. Where else do you find a need for patching them for eternity?
    Yes, vulnerabilities will always be found in every browser (it's practically impossible to make invulnerable browser) but IE is especially insecure because it's part of Windows and I don't think that Edge will be different. Microsoft is known for slow patching rate, it releases patches only once per month so hackers have plenty of time to exploit unfixed vulnerabilities.
     
    Yes, vulnerabilities will always be found in every browser (it's practically impossible to make invulnerable browser) but IE is especially insecure because it's part of Windows and I don't think that Edge will be different. Microsoft is known for slow patching rate, it releases patches only once per month so hackers have plenty of time to exploit unfixed vulnerabilities.

    First, I'll get you on the first point. The browser being part of Windows or not does not equate insecurity as it doesn't really matter if it's part of it. If there's a vulnerability in the browser, it's a vulnerability in the browser. Most Internet Explorer bugs are rightfully contained within Internet Explorer, or rather its layout engine - Internet Explorer's "integration" isn't that much of a big deal. You should think of Internet Explorer as more of a "shell" for the HTML rendering engine that's included with Windows, really.

    Vulnerability disclosure and patching does not work the way you imagine they should, too.

    Pretty much every single browser that you and I'd actually use operates on a set updating schedule, with out-of-band updates only appearing to fix critical issues, security or not. Microsoft adopts a Patch Tuesday - that way, every second Tuesday of a month, things get patched en masse. It's a much more convenient approach to patching, really, by keeping the "patch day" confined to known quantities under most circumstances.

    You might have also noticed that the "normal" releases of Google Chrome and Mozilla Firefox also follows a set update schedule - after a certain amount of weeks, the browser will be updated, along with any new fixes. In a nutshell, all three are similar in update cadence.

    In fact, rapid-fire updates tend to ruin things, as updates should ideally be well-tested before deployment, and firing off updates as the come in is a recipe for disaster in system uptime and usability. You also wouldn't want to have an unpredictable update schedule, too, especially in enterprise and mission-critical environments.

    Hence, I do not see where your point lies, as it doesn't exist.
     
    Yes, vulnerabilities will always be found in every browser (it's practically impossible to make invulnerable browser) but IE is especially insecure because it's part of Windows and I don't think that Edge will be different. Microsoft is known for slow patching rate, it releases patches only once per month so hackers have plenty of time to exploit unfixed vulnerabilities.

    I could have sworn Microsoft announced sometime in the last month that they were going to be phasing out Patch Tuesday.
     
    I could have sworn Microsoft announced sometime in the last month that they were going to be phasing out Patch Tuesday.

    I think it's more in the lines of Edge being able to be updated as if it were any other Universal Windows app.

    That should make updating Edge a much more simpler affair, and if everything pans out, won't require restarts anymore.
     
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