PSP vs DS no flames

Heh, just remember I said this and when it comes out, I'll be right. =p It is true that Zelda is getting more darker, but try checking out Zeldauniverse, and even Nintendo.com. The next Zelda wont be bloody, if you have heard that it is a more mature Zelda, that is correct, but not a Mature rating. More like a T rating. The Movie I have saw doesn't look too realistic with damage. It looks more like Super Smash Bro. Effects except red. Heh, I'll be right, just remember what I said..

Sorry for getting off topic.. Anyway, DS will rule! Two screens is new and innovative, and the PSP sounds more like an N-gage to me. If it wasn't for Nintendo, Sony wouldn't be such a video game Titan today.
 
I checked th movie and even though it does not have blood in it, it is still much more violent than any other Zelda game thus far. That is the selling point.
 
Yup. The generally darker atmosphere is to target the group that could spend the most. Really, this group is the same group that has the original Zelda, so obviously a stunt like that would at least attract some of the guys (they're like, "yo, new Zelda with good graphics finally!"). Seriously, the franchise has its impact.

btw, Conker is on Xbox with PD2. O_O

Getting back on topic (it sorta is, this whole Zelda ordeal), I think maybe a Zelda game like that on the DS will definitely be of help to Nintendo's DS sales.
 
PSP vs DS

Disclaimer:This topic was and is bordering on a flame war. Before you try
to even start remember that all I state is my own opinion Not yours... I stick by my opinion and nothing you say will change that. If you wish to retort be my guest, but debating isn't what I came to do, I came to express my opinion as a gamer, nothing more.

I'm a big fan of both companies (Sony for it's consoles and Nintendo for it's handhelds and consoles). When I heard about the PSP I liked the idea. When I heard about the DS is was scepticle... As it stands I'm a huge Nintendo DS supporter and I won't be getting the PSP any time soon (soon after it's release). Nintendo's DS looks more durable in my opinion and I don't care what you think, as a consumer I'm going to be worried about these things. I have never had a bad experience with any nintendo product I have purchased. My playstation 2 on the other hand has given me problems. I trust in Nintendo more than I trust in Sony and that's the bottomline. PSP for movies? I have a notebook for that (which can also word process, browse the internet, play music, etc.) Play music? I have my iPod which can store thousands of tracks and has enough battery time to get me through my day. I want my system to play games as it's supposed to and all those fancy features just bumb up the price on the psp. When I think handheld I think Nintendo, when I think about good game to keep my occupied while I'm at the doctors, I think Pokemon, Final fantasy tactics advance, Mario kart, Mario advance, etc. I'm thinking about 1)Battery life 2)cost of not only the system, but the games and 3) Gaming Library. I'm getting DS for sure when it comes out and I'll think about psp (after it proves to have staying power). As for what thousands of other people will think when deciding, I think LFP16 best summed it up when she said "They won't see it as a third pillar, they will see it as the next gameboy." that my friend is why they will get it.

To stray away from my opinion here is a few brief facts

Facts:
On it's release in Japan, The Nintendo Gameboy advance sold over half a million copies in four days (there goes LFP's opinion that not many people will buy a Nintendo handheld when it first comes out :laugh: ) In comparison, the Sony playstation 2 sold 70,000 Units in its first week.
In March of 04 Sony announced that it has sold 25 million PS2's in the US to date.
IIRC (I saw this on a G4TV special some time ago) Both GBAs (GBA and SP) Sold over 20 million copies here in one year alone.
And stating the obvious: More copies of GBA have been sold than the PS2 in any region of the world.

So that rounds up what I had to say, remember I'm not trying to debate, I'm just sharing the view of a fellow consumer.... and in the end that's all that is important.

~Splash
 
Splashing Mew said:
Disclaimer:
Facts:
On it's release in Japan, The Nintendo Gameboy advance sold over half a million copies in four days (there goes LFP's opinion that not many people will buy a Nintendo handheld when it first comes out :laugh: )
~Splash
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Half a million out of about 290 million people in the usa. About 145 million people play video games. Do the math. Half a million isn't that huge.

Its not like everyone is dying to buy it.

and I know that most of you will want sources...

Census

Video game facts

Its like two years old but, but I hope it gets the point across.
 
Hm

It amuses me how much you are willing to stand by the PSP, but at the same time it is admireable... And I said in Japan half a Million.... Oh and if half a million isn't huge then 70,000 isn't anything to brag about... Again we're going to estimate that maybe 27 million people own ps2's in the Us... That still isn't half of what the GBA has sold... Nintendo GBA is the most successful Game console out at this moment... When the DS comes out it is likely to be the same way... The Nintendo DS has about 4-5 Months of an advantage over the PSP (in the states) and to you 4-5 months might not seem like a lot but it's enough to establish a loyal fan base... Another thing about Nintendo is that they usually have a major title to accompany their new systems (I.E Pokemon advance's simultaneous release with the Nintendo GBA SP) For all we know Nintendo might pull something like this with us... Who is to say? And with the memory thing being a problem, have you ever thought that maybe Nintendo could release a cart that would be used for the second slot that acts like a Memory card? It's possible... The Nintendo DS just has so much going for it, gaming Wise.... and LFP, the best way to make a statement is to actually buy the PSP at it's release and not purchase a DS (whic I bet you will). Post back LFP....


~Splash
 
Splashing Mew said:
It amuses me how much you are willing to stand by the PSP, but at the same time it is admireable... And I said in Japan half a Million.... Oh and if half a million isn't huge then 70,000 isn't anything to brag about... Again we're going to estimate that maybe 27 million people own ps2's in the Us... That still isn't half of what the GBA has sold... Nintendo GBA is the most successful Game console out at this moment... When the DS comes out it is likely to be the same way... The Nintendo DS has about 4-5 Months of an advantage over the PSP (in the states) and to you 4-5 months might not seem like a lot but it's enough to establish a loyal fan base... Another thing about Nintendo is that they usually have a major title to accompany their new systems (I.E Pokemon advance's simultaneous release with the Nintendo GBA SP) For all we know Nintendo might pull something like this with us... Who is to say? And with the memory thing being a problem, have you ever thought that maybe Nintendo could release a cart that would be used for the second slot that acts like a Memory card? It's possible... The Nintendo DS just has so much going for it, gaming Wise.... and LFP, the best way to make a statement is to actually buy the PSP at it's release and not purchase a DS (whic I bet you will). Post back LFP....


~Splash
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GBA is the only handheld(no countie on N-gage), PS2 has two competitors. Sales are usually split 3-way because of three systems.

Its a different story when DS and PSP come around. Heck, let Microsoft join the battle.

Don't compare PS2 to GBA. Thats like comparing a TV to my toaster.
PS2 Vs GCN. Okie?

I'm going to sleep, I'm too lazy to read the rest because I am about to pass out. Post back.
 
(If this post is crap it's because I'm about to fall asleep on my keyboard )
I wasn't really comparing PS2 to the Gameboy advance... That would be foolish. GBA>PS2 any day! j/k. Microsoft isn't going to be joining the handheld market any time soon (they stated so themselves) but there was talk about Microsoft supporting the DS (Halo DS anyone? Probably not.... But it's nice to dream). Ok so Nintendo has 100 (not including themselves) and the PSP has 98 (excluding themselves) Ok so what's two developers? But then you include Sony and Nintendo and in short when it comes to games (not systems) Nintendo>Sony and you cannot deny that. Nintendo it's self is one of the biggest thing going for it's hand held. Nintendo is able to take all their franchises and make games for the DS. We've already seen Metroid: Hunters (which looks great) Mario 64X4 (which looks good also) Mario kart (which again looks nice) and all the others but we can expect hits like: Pokemon DS (which will be a huge seller) Legend of Zelda, Star Fox, F-zero (nothing compared th GT 4 ><) and what ever else. You say Nintendo has never had any real competition... Sure you can say that now but if you think back and put yourself in the time where the Gameboy was a brick and then all these new handhelds with superior graphics and bigger games, you would have considered that competition.... Competition is competition whether it be big or not. Nintendo has beaten the competition in the past and in my opinion it can happen again... Sony has said they have a battery life of ten hours, right? Well then they come out saying it could be shorter? Ah Sony... Just say it... For listening to music with no visual its about 8-10 hours but for gameplay they said 2-3 hours..... 2-3 hours doesn't cut it for me..... Now hey this might be fixed by release (I hope and think it will) A lot of people know about this and that puts a damper on Sony and the PSP... Oh and Nintendo has stated that id the PSP does in fact do better then the DS (it still is a possibility) then Nintendo will push development on the successor to the GBA (Which of course will be more powerful) DS is simply the PSP killer.... If Nintendo wants to be real evil they can start development on a hyped game (Pokemon DS anybody?) And release it about the time that the PSP is released in the US.... That will surely boost DS sales and of less money in your pocket, less likely to get PSP...
And for the sake of good sportsman-ship: I would like to stop anyone who thinks that the PSP will have a loading time.... Big systems like Xbox and PS2 have lag but GCN doesn't... Why? Because their discs are larger and therefore the laser reader has to work harder to find the data. The PSP will have these small UMD disc which means that it probably wont have a lot of noticable loading time... So that is not a valid arguement.... Ah speaking of disc readers..... I'll leave that for another post.... Talk to you guys (and LFP :D later)

~Splash
 
Personally, I think that PSP has just kicked Nintendo's ***, with all these beautiful features. I don't mind spending 100's of Dollars on Sony items, but yeah, pretty much, PSP is the winner.
 
pojiforce-14 have a good reson you are telling that psp wins because you liked it jajaja. when both come out you will see who is the winner.
 
Guys... We're forgetting the whole reason of this topic... It isn't about debating who the winner will be *cough*DS*cough* this is about which system do you support and which one you'll buy. This is not the place to debate... But hey we've already started so why stop?

Nintendo is the handheld giant and I don't think that will change anytime soon... The PSP is just a new Gamegear.... It has better graphics, bigger games but crappy battery time (although it isnt as big as the gamegear). As it stands we still haven't seen actual gameplay on the PSP, all Sony has shown us are screenshots taken deep within the Sony labs where no media can go... Sony has a history of exaggerating on their products and as far as we know the PSP might not be as graphically tuned as we all think (although that is unlikely). Some of the major gaming companies in Japan are already holding out on Sony. Sega says they might not be able to produce any titles for the PSP by the deadline because Sony has yet to send them any actual hardware to work with. Square-Enix isn't making any titles for the PSP currently and doesn't plan to yet (although they are loving the DS and making multiple titles for it) Konami is going to be holding out and is only going to be releasing the titles that they have announced and no more (as of now) and with Capcom it's the same thing. Some of these developers don't want to take a big chance with the PSP and I don't blame them. The DS on the other hand is getting tons of developer support... Face it the higher quality developers you have the better games you'll get out for your system and the more sales go up... Right now Nintendo is in great shape and Sony should be working harder...

~Splash
 
I would really hate to argue against that, I really adn truly would. But according to a poll taken by GI, more developers are interested in PSP than DS. A good thirty percent more.

Still, your points hold some merit too. It's possible taht even though more developers are interested in PSP, more are working on DS simply because they were given something to work with. :\
 
It's fine and dandy that their more "interested" in Sony's new portable but being "interested" and actually developing for the system is two different things... Sony hasn't proved nothing to anyone and thats why some of the biggest solo gaming companies in Japan are going to be holding out on the PSP (as of now). I myself would be more interested in the PSP if I were a developer (a more powerful engine to work with) but at the same time I'd fully supporting the system that I know the power of and I know will sell (every single Nintendo handheld has sold a lot... Every single one... And if anyone so mentions the Nintendo virtual boy as a Nintendo handheld.... You do not deserve to even post in this thread let alone have attention). The way things are going for Sony right now seems to lean towards a weak system launch for the PSP (Japanese launch) which will be very bad for the PSP... These coud be fixed by the US release but who gives a ****? Sales are sales no matter where they are from and a bad launch is even better for the competition.... Japan is a big part of the gaming market... So is the US but if you want to get technical... Europe is the biggest gaming market (in terms of money spent each year on buying games).

~Splash
 
Splashing Mew said:
It's fine and dandy that their more "interested" in Sony's new portable but being "interested" and actually developing for the system is two different things... Sony hasn't proved nothing to anyone and thats why some of the biggest solo gaming companies in Japan are going to be holding out on the PSP (as of now). I myself would be more interested in the PSP if I were a developer (a more powerful engine to work with) but at the same time I'd fully supporting the system that I know the power of and I know will sell (every single Nintendo handheld has sold a lot... Every single one... And if anyone so mentions the Nintendo virtual boy as a Nintendo handheld.... You do not deserve to even post in this thread let alone have attention). The way things are going for Sony right now seems to lean towards a weak system launch for the PSP (Japanese launch) which will be very bad for the PSP... These coud be fixed by the US release but who gives a ****? Sales are sales no matter where they are from and a bad launch is even better for the competition.... Japan is a big part of the gaming market... So is the US but if you want to get technical... Europe is the biggest gaming market (in terms of money spent each year on buying games).

~Splash
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Okie... I'm just going to pretend that you didn't post your previous posts...


PSP Videos
GT4 (looks better than PS2!)

Tony Hawks Underground 2 PSP

Need For Speed Underground PSP

GT4 Mobile



As for games and developers...
Nintendo August 3 said:
Some 32 companies, including Sega, Capcom, Konami, Square Enix and Namco, have a total of 64 games in development for Nintendo DS
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Nintendo's Website
Sony May 11 said:
99 game software developers and publishers have expressed their support for PSP
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Playstation Website


IGN List said:
ACTIVISION - PSP titles by March 2005

ATARI - Several titles planned for US

ATLUS - (*No titles planned, still evaluating system)

BANDAI - No confirmed titles, but is expected to announce plans soon

BANPRESTO - (*No titles planned, still evaluating system)

BETHESDA SOFTWORKS - Titles in development; has not announced plans

CAPCOM - At least 1 planned title at Japanese launch

CODEMASTERS - In development of titles (and prospective teams for said titles)

CHUNSOFT - Evaluating prospects of new title in the SOUND NOVEL series

DORASU CORPORATION - (*No titles planned, still evaluating system)

D3 - No confirmed titles but heavily considering software development (likely an edition of the SIMPLE XXXX series for PSP)

EA - Four titles planned at launch; 8-12 total US games by March 2005; Several planned titles at new EA studio; Several planned titles at other development houses for EA

EIDOS - Titles in development; has not announced plans

FROM SOFTWARE - (*No titles planned, still evaluating system)

HUDSON SOFT - Multiple titles in development

IREM - (*No titles planned, still evaluating system)

KOEI - 3 planned titles at Japanese launch; 1 planned title at US launch

KONAMI - Multiple titles planned title at Japanese launch; Expected multiple titles at US launch

LucasArts - (*No titles planned, still evaluating system)

MAJESCO - Titles in development; has not announced plans

MIDWAY GAMES - Titles in development; has not announced plans

MTO - Titles in development; has not announced plans

NAMCO - 2-3 planned titles at Japanese & US launch

NATSUME/ VIS - (*No titles planned, still evaluating system)

NIPPON ICHI - 1 title in development for release shortly after launch for Japan

NOW PRODUCTION - Titles in development; has not announced plans

PLAYLOGIC - Has signed PSP Racer project for publishing from EngineSoftware; Still evaluating further development

PUBLISHING IDENTITY SVENSKA - (*No titles planned, still evaluating system)

SAMMY - Titles in development; has not announced plans

SEGA - Has multiple PSP titles in development

SNK Playmore - (*No titles planned, still evaluating system)

SPIKE - Titles in development; has not announced plans

SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT - Multiple titles in development for Japan, US and European launch

SQUARE ENIX - UMD release of Final Fantasy: Advent Children; further plans unannounced

TAITO - 1 title in development

TAKE-2 / ROCKSTAR GAMES / GLOBALSTAR MULTIMEDIA - Multiple titles at or shortly after US launch

TECMO - Team Ninja project in the works; still evaluating system for further plans

THQ - Select titles to be released at PSP launch

TOMY - (*No titles planned, still evaluating system)

UBISOFT - Has not announced planned titles, but is in development on titles
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IGN

Okie, so now you see that PSP has more games and developers than PSP.
 
I'm just going ot say that since you're an all out PSP supporter, you probalby didn't do as much research into DS as you did PSP. Cause it doesn't look like it. Splashing Mew seems to hold some very valid points.

and Second, I think you've posted that list once before. Do you have that backed up onto your harddrive or something? :\
 
Huh? I did the same amount of reasearch. Actually MORE for the DS. Look at the dates. My PSP info is a couple months old(think about how many games/developers they have now!)

I made sure that the same amount of data was provided for both consoles.

Yea I did post this before, but because Splashing Mew is a newbie, I thought I would save him the trouble.

I just don't like false info. Thats ok though, I know he didn't do it purposely.

Uhh watching the videos would be cool*hint*hint*
They make PSP looke better than PS2....
 
What I was trying to say is that Sony has yet to allow any of the major game developers to get a hold of PSP prototype. At E3 the Nintendo DS was playable... At E3 the PSP was not. Sure it was there on the floor and it was showing off some of it's impressive graphics but those were just videos and Sony has yet to show an actual playable demo... The 99 developers are interested in the PSP..... Interest:A state of curiosity or concern about or attention to something... I can say im interested in my bestfriends mom (which I'm not) but there is a difference between expressing their "interest" and already developing titles.... The PSP has shown that they will have a weak launch (they and you have yet to show me otherwise). The Nintendo DS will probably have a more successful launch in both the US and the Asian market. Almost simultaneous will furthor help the the DS and by viewing Nintendo's handheld track record, you can expect a Major release (game wise) at launch. LFP tell me why you are such a PSP fangirl.... Maybe you can show me the "light" or as I consider it the "dark". I'm a DS supporter.... I am what's going to make the DS sell and not the PSP.... Show me otherwise.... I'm only 14 so how much do I really know? How to spend money. ;)
Edit: Oh I'm a newbie? Define newbie.... Because I registered on Aug 2004 I'm a newbie? Do you think I do not know how to read? Are you implying that like you I do not take my time to read all valid information? Well i'm sorry because if that is your definition. then I am not a newbie.
As for the videos... I saw them before... So?

~Splash
 
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TRIFORCE89 said:
EDIT: About the EGB. The EGB was what I've always called the next Game Boy, even before DS was mentioned or any rumours about the next Game Boy came. I've been calling it EGB since the AGB was released, so what I call it means nothing. Whatever the name is, there will be a true successor to the Game Boy. I read in an interview recently about the Game Boy's successor. I just don't remember where I read it. When I find it, I'll post the quote.
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Okay, I apologize sicne we seem to be off this topic now. But I found it. It turns out I posted it at PC before. So you cna find the post here.

Sorry for going off topic with this. But if I just edited my old post it would've gone unnoticed.
 
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