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Dark Azelf

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    Then I'd have no one with Taunt. How about I use Moon Light instead of Wish so I don't need Protect for that?

    Sure you can use Moonlight.

    Btw those are bad evs use this

    Umbreon@Leftovers
    252 HP / 252 S.DEF / 6 Att
    Careful Nature
    - Moonlight
    - Taunt / Heal Bell / Curse
    - Toxic / Heal Bell / Curse
    - Payback
     

    revelp8

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  • Then I'd have no one with Taunt. How about I use Moon Light instead of Wish so I don't need Protect for that?

    Moonlight isn't all that great since RD and SS weather teams are really popular. and i would suggest placing someone faster than umbreon to taunt opponents pokemon.
     

    Peeky Chew

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  • Sure you can use Moonlight.

    Btw those are bad evs use this

    Umbreon@Leftovers
    252 HP / 252 S.DEF / 6 Att
    Careful Nature
    - Moonlight
    - Taunt / Heal Bell / Curse
    - Toxic / Heal Bell / Curse
    - Payback
    Now I'm really confused...
    So I have Moonlight and Toxic, they look pretty essential. But then what about Heal Bell, Curse and Payback? Also I've just thought that maybe Mean Look would be a good move...
     
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    Now I'm really confused...
    So I have Moonlight and Toxic, they look pretty essential. But then what about Heal Bell, Curse and Payback? Also I've just thought that maybe Mean Look would be a good move...
    Mean Look is really only useful if you plan to use Baton Pass in conjunction to allow a sweeper to set up. Sometimes you can maybe use it for luring.
     

    Zephyr Wind

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  • I have a really weird question,,,,

    While i was looking through several teams, i noticed that many people use MixMence or SpecsMence. Why don't people just use a physical salamence??

    Btw, sorry if this somehow offends anyone who is using a Specs or Mix Mence cause i really just want to know.
     

    Darkhunter101

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  • I have a really weird question,,,,

    While i was looking through several teams, i noticed that many people use MixMence or SpecsMence. Why don't people just use a physical salamence??

    Btw, sorry if this somehow offends anyone who is using a Specs or Mix Mence cause i really just want to know.
    The main reason is that DD Mence became the most popular Mence. Meaning people are more likely to predict physical than special, then switch into a physical wall which will die. This is what i think anyway. Correct me if i'm wrong.
     

    Peeky Chew

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  • I have a really weird question,,,,

    While i was looking through several teams, i noticed that many people use MixMence or SpecsMence. Why don't people just use a physical salamence??

    Btw, sorry if this somehow offends anyone who is using a Specs or Mix Mence cause i really just want to know.
    Don't really know why people use that but.
    If you're looking to use a Salamence then I think this is a pretty good unpredictable set:
    Salamence@Leftovers
    Jolly
    252 HP / 180 Def / 76 Spe
    Dragon Dance
    Roost
    Toxic
    Dragon Claw
     
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    MixMence is generally used as a wall breaker, or an easy late game sweeper that doesn't require set up like DD Mence. Everything else is stated by Darkhunter101.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Don't really know why people use that but.
    If you're looking to use a Salamence then I think this is a pretty good unpredictable set:
    Salamence@Leftovers
    Jolly
    252 HP / 180 Def / 76 Spe
    Dragon Dance
    Roost
    Toxic
    Dragon Claw

    But why would you want to be Scizor, Heatran, Jirachi, Skarm, Meta, Empoleon, Mawile bait ?
     

    Fire Wolf

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  • And if Salamence is your last pokemon? You need to use Fire Blast or Earthquake >> Roost or Toxic.
     
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    Mostly, Bronzong is used as a Stealth Rocker, Trick Roomer or a supporter. But sometimes it's used as a sweeper rarely in teams. Which is why I've came up with the best moveset I can think of for a sweeping Bronzong. Can be used well against some Pokemon. But it still has it's flaws.

    Nature: Bold
    EV's: 252 HP/176 Def/76 Sp. Atk
    Ability: Levitate
    Held Item: Leftovers/Chesto Berry
    Psychic
    Flash Cannon
    Calm Mind
    Hypnosis/Rest

    I know it doesn't look like a sweeper but it still takes hits really well and plays the long game. This Pokemon can even sweep or stall depending on it's moveset.

    252 HP and 176 Def makes Bronzong take hits from physical sweepers like Tyranitar and Salamence with ease. The spare EV's goes to Sp. Atk for more damage.

    Psychic is a must have on a sweeping Bronzong since it's a STAB attack.

    Flash Cannon is another STAB move against Dark type Pokemon.

    Calm Mind makes it more of a staller and a sweeper at the same time. Gengar will have trouble getting through this Bronzong.

    The last move can either be Rest or Hypnosis. Rest is for healing it's HP right back up for more stalling. If it has a Chesto Berry. It instantly wakes up from it's sleep so that my opponenet has to do the role all over again.

    Hypnosis can be used to make my opponent go to sleep and then set up. But it won't be stalling as it used to do. Plus, I won' get rid of the status problem if it has one.

    And finally, the Leftovers is to gain little HP every turn for some more stalling.

    So, what do you think? Good? Any improvements I need? Please reply. Thank you.
     

    Fire Wolf

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  • Instead of Rest/Hypnosis, you may use Shadow Ball in the last slot, but Bronzong is not designed to be a sweeper, it is mainly a supporter.
     

    FreakyLocz14

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    For Alakazam I have two options: Calm Mind or Charge Beam.

    CM will up my my Special Attack and Special Defense. After a few Zam won't be hurt much my non-boosted Special attacks.

    Charge Beam is only a 70% chance of a boost in Special Attack. It can come on on a revenge kill to get a stat boost and sweep the rest of the opponent's team. Not being guaranteed a stat boost lets me down sometimes.

    Opinions?
     

    Aurafire

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  • For Alakazam I have two options: Calm Mind or Charge Beam.

    CM will up my my Special Attack and Special Defense. After a few Zam won't be hurt much my non-boosted Special attacks.

    Charge Beam is only a 70% chance of a boost in Special Attack. It can come on on a revenge kill to get a stat boost and sweep the rest of the opponent's team. Not being guaranteed a stat boost lets me down sometimes.

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    58% when you factor in accuracy ;D

    Calm Mind is the better choice, it is more reliable and if Zam is going to sweep it can't waste time trying to get boost with Charge Beam. He already has plenty of type coverage so that's not really an issue either. Just don't get Sucker Punched/Pursuited to death ;x
     

    FreakyLocz14

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    58% when you factor in accuracy ;D

    Calm Mind is the better choice, it is more reliable and if Zam is going to sweep it can't waste time trying to get boost with Charge Beam. He already has plenty of type coverage so that's not really an issue either. Just don't get Sucker Punched/Pursuited to death ;x

    I know CM is preffered but he can't set-up well because he take a hit so Charge Beam revenge killing seemed good to me.

    I could lead with Zam so I'm guaranteed a CM boost due to Focus Sash and most of the time I can get two in.

    I'm thinking of:

    Alakazam @ Wise Glasses / Life Orb / Focus Sash
    Timid nature
    EVs: 6 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe
    -Calm Mind / Charge Beam
    -Psychic
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast

    Wise Glasses > Life Orb so I don't take recoil.
     

    Aurafire

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  • I know CM is preffered but he can't set-up well because he take a hit so Charge Beam revenge killing seemed good to me.

    I could lead with Zam so I'm guaranteed a CM boost due to Focus Sash and most of the time I can get two in.

    I'm thinking of:

    Alakazam @ Wise Glasses / Life Orb / Focus Sash
    Timid nature
    EVs: 6 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe
    -Calm Mind / Charge Beam
    -Psychic
    -Shadow Ball
    -Focus Blast

    Wise Glasses > Life Orb so I don't take recoil.

    Suit yourself.

    Leading with him accomplishes nothing, and in the rare case you actually get a kill or two, that's one less sweeper your opponent has to deal with. It's better to bring him out later when you've scouted for counters and such.
     

    FreakyLocz14

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    Suit yourself.

    Leading with him accomplishes nothing, and in the rare case you actually get a kill or two, that's one less sweeper your opponent has to deal with. It's better to bring him out later when you've scouted for counters and such.

    Yeah I guess but how can I get CM in without dying first?
     
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    Aurafire

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  • Yeah I guess but how can I get CM in witjout dying first?

    Answer that question and you will have dramatically increased Alakazam's usefulness lol

    He has to worry about Pursuit and Sucker Punch, which is unfortunate because most of his counters in UU and OU carry one of the two. The best thing you can do is scout for and try to remove these counters before trying to set up.
     

    FreakyLocz14

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    Answer that question and you will have dramatically increased Alakazam's usefulness lol

    He has to worry about Pursuit and Sucker Punch, which is unfortunate because most of his counters in UU and OU carry one of the two. The best thing you can do is scout for and try to remove these counters before trying to set up.

    4th Gen was not kind to Alakazam he lost the elemental punches and his usefulness Calm Mind+Recover walling he had in ADV.
     
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