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Thanks Dark Azelf. filler filler
 
Can someone please give me movesets for the following

Manectrec (Special Sweeper)
Skarmory (Physical Wall w/ Spikes)
T-TAR (Physical Sweeper)
Salamence (Physical Sweeper)

Thanks in advance if you do
 
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RespectfullyDesired said:
Can someone give me a physical moveset with a Brave hitmonchan?
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Brave cuts Hitmonchan's speed, reducing its usefulness. I suggest Adamant or Jolly.

Ummm....

Hitmonchan@ Choice Band
Adamant | Iron Fist
< 40 HP, 252 Atk, 216 Spd >
~ Close Combat/Mach Punch
~ Fire Punch/Thunder Punch
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Punch

Hits hard due to Iron Fist Boosting all but EQ and CC's power by 20%.

If you are looking for more of a Sweeper, then Hitmonlee may be a better option.


I was thinking, is there any situation in which Shell Bell is viable? It may be useful on a number of pokemon:
  • A few Mixed Walls - where the Defence stats outweight the HP Stat and the pokemon still inflicts decent damage. Focus the EVs on defences, so you get maximum return off the EVs.
  • A number of Special Sweepers - Most Special Sweepers need to face Blissey or Snorlax at one time or another, so having any recovery calculated off a base HP of 255/160 respectively, would probably work.
Any thoughts?
 
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Shell Bell is only remotely viable on sweepers, which would enjoy Life Orb or Expert Belt more to boost their damage. It is not viable on walls due to it requiring the said pokemon to do tremendous amounts of damage to outweigh leftovers, and even then it lacks the reliability of Leftovers.

Life Orb/Expert Belt > Shell Bell for sweepers
Leftovers > Shell Bell for walls
 
Archer said:
Brave cuts Hitmonchan's speed, reducing its usefulness. I suggest Adamant or Jolly.

Ummm....

Hitmonchan@ Choice Band
Adamant | Iron Fist
< 40 HP, 252 Atk, 216 Spd >
~ Close Combat/Mach Punch
~ Fire Punch/Thunder Punch
~ Earthquake
~ Ice Punch

Hits hard due to Iron Fist Boosting all but EQ and CC's power by 20%.

If you are looking for more of a Sweeper, then Hitmonlee may be a better option.


I was thinking, is there any situation in which Shell Bell is viable? It may be useful on a number of pokemon:
  • A few Mixed Walls - where the Defence stats outweight the HP Stat and the pokemon still inflicts decent damage. Focus the EVs on defences, so you get maximum return off the EVs.
  • A number of Special Sweepers - Most Special Sweepers need to face Blissey or Snorlax at one time or another, so having any recovery calculated off a base HP of 255/160 respectively, would probably work.
Any thoughts?
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yeah thanks, just its not AT ALL going to be a physical sweeper. Im ev training it in sp def/atk/some speed/hp. Its going to be a wall(ish) pokemon. And what was that iron fist stuff? that it boosts elemental punches by 20%? Hitmonchan has VERY low sp atk so I dont think ill be giving it any, unless..

edit: OH! I see, mine has keen eye, damn kanto. But elemental punches are physical now! YES!
 
RespectfullyDesired said:
yeah thanks, just its not AT ALL going to be a physical sweeper. Im ev training it in sp def/atk/some speed/hp. Its going to be a wall(ish) pokemon. And what was that iron fist stuff? that it boosts elemental punches by 20%? Hitmonchan has VERY low sp atk so I dont think ill be giving it any, unless..

edit: OH! I see, mine has keen eye, damn kanto. But elemental punches are physical now! YES!
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Elemental punches are physical, clue's in the word punch. :|

Shell bell actually works nicely on tanks such as swampert. Since he's usually EVed to be bulky but has an offensive moveset the 1 8th recover is quite nice to have.

EDIT: Just seen your edit :D
 
hey guys
i know the standard skamory needs 156 def evs
but can i give him 156 spdef evs instead incase he runs into sp attackers or sp sweepers??
 
That's a bad idea. Most of the Special attackers that Skarm runs into carry Thunderbolt or Flamethrower/Fire Blast, all of which hit SE on his weakest stat. No matter how many EVs you pump into SDef, Skarm isn't surviving that- or at least, not by too much. Not to mention, if you put those EVs into SDef, he loses effectiveness as a physical wall- something he's supposed to be able to do well.
 
tylerowicz said:
hey guys
i know the standard skamory needs 156 def evs
but can i give him 156 spdef evs instead incase he runs into sp attackers or sp sweepers??
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No, because thats not its job. It shouldnt even be staying in on sp.sweepers, EVER. Skarm is a physical wall, to stop PHYSICAL attacks, not special. Thats your sp.walls job.


252 HP / 16 ATT / 200 DEF / 40 SP.DEF@Impish is better, Skarm actually needs more def than 156 tbh.
 
hm.. alright thanks
im thinking of using forretress as a physical wall instead because he has sick defense, and plus he has spikes AND rapid spin

but should i use counter/explosion/light screen to fill one spot??
 
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yea i know
but im not sure which one to use
and if its a good idea to use forretress
i mean its a good spike/rapid spinner/physical wall
 
tylerowicz said:
hm.. alright thanks
im thinking of using forretress as a physical wall instead because he has sick defense, and plus he has spikes AND rapid spin

but should i use counter/explosion/light screen to fill one spot??
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Forretress@Shed Shell / Leftovers
252 HP / 196 DEF / 60 ATT
Relaxed Nature
- Gyro ball / Earthquake
- Spikes / Toxic Spikes
- Rest / Explosion
- Rapid Spin

Yep

Shed Shell lets you escape from Magnezone.
 
all in all is forretress a good choice?
i mainly need him for spikes and rapid spin
physical wall is just a bonus

hmm.. rest.. or explosion, gyro ball, or earthquake
im not sure
and relaxed.. are you sure?? not the speed is bad like.. horrible like 102
 
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tylerowicz said:
all in all is forretress a good choice?
i mainly need him for spikes and rapid spin
physical wall is just a bonus

hmm.. rest.. or explosion, gyro ball, or earthquake
im not sure
and relaxed.. are you sure?? not the speed is bad like.. horrible like 102
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- Speed Nature is there to power up Gyro ball =)
 
tylerowicz said:
gyro ball grows power with less speed? : O
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Yes. Plus, it will do more damage the faster the opponent is. If you want INCREDIBLE power, then stick on a Macho Brace (halves speed). Although there is no recovery boost, this powers up Gyro Ball so that it can do INCREDIBLE damage.
 
Flame Orb or Choice Scarf on Heracross? Set for the preferred one.
 
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