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Request an Individual Moveset / Incomplete Team Help Thread

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hey thanx, could i have a non choice set, maybe swords dancer
 
If you want Swords Dance instead of Choice Band, then Brick Break is probably better.

Scizor @ Leftovers
Technician
Adamant
180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Spe or 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-X-Scissor / Brick Break
-Roost / Pursuit

The first EV spread is to outspeed Vaporeon who can kinda wall you, the second one is just for more bulk.
 
what would be a better baton pass set for ninjask?

baton pass
sustitute
protect
swords dance

or

baton pass
sustitute
x-scissors
swords dance

basically the question is should give ninjask an attacking move.
 
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Ninjask@ Leftovers
Nature : Jolly
EV : 176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Spe
-Substitute
-Baton Pass
-Swords Dance
-X-Scissor

^That's basically what you want =)
 
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Ninjask@ Leftovers
Nature : Jolly
EV : 176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Spe
-Substitute
-Baton Pass
-Swords Dance
-X-Scissor

^That's basically what you want =)

I like that set with Protect over Swords Dance for solely passing Speed. Seems to work well for me.
 
I defo wouldn't use reflect. Move wasted.

HP Fire is an option over Focus Blast if you want to hit Scizor (providing it doesn't use Bullet Punch you're guaranteed at least 1 hit, possibly OHKO depending on the EVs of the Scizor.

HP Fire also hits Metagross and Skarm.
Yes it can learn shadow ball.

So you could have this:
Psychic
Shadow Ball
HP Fire
Charge Beam.

That would give you good coverage.

If my HP type is already Fire then I'll use that move I just don't want to have to breed a lot for the IV's for HP Fire it took long enough to get 31 Speed and SpA IV's.
 
I need help with half my team, and any tips on my current half will be accepted as well.
heres the first 3.

pokemon #1
Arcanine(male) @ Choice band
252atk/252spe/4hp
nature:jolly
attacks: 1. flare blit. 2. extremespeed. 3. thunder fang. 4. ironhead.

Pokemon #2
Alakazam(female) @ life orb
252sp.atk/252spe/4hp
nature:serious
attacks: 1. calm mind 2. focus blast. 3. psychic. 4. signal beam.

pokemon#3
Jolteon(female) @ choice spec
252spe/252sp.atk/4def
nature:bashful
attacks: 1. thunderbolt. 2. shadow ball. 3.hidden power(grass) 4. signal beam

pokemon#4-6
IDK yet, help please
any advice for the first 3 would be nice too.
i've considered gengar or dusknoir, and also mamoswine.
any and every suggestion well be considered thanks

p.s. i dont really want a batton pass jolteon, but i know itll prolly be better, if thats your input ill take it into consideration...


-Thanks.
 
Well, you said you wanted Gengar, so Gengar you shall have:


Gengar @ Expert Belt
Timid
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Hp
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
HP Ice
Focus Blast

I go HP Fire over HP Ice for hitting Steels, but you already have Arcanine, so HP Ice would be better.

I wouldn't really use Arcanine as a lead, maybe something that can use Stealth Rock/Spikes, or something that stops others using them.
 
If you want Swords Dance instead of Choice Band, then Brick Break is probably better.

Scizor @ Leftovers
Technician
Adamant
180 HP / 252 Atk / 76 Spe or 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Spe
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-X-Scissor / Brick Break
-Roost / Pursuit

The first EV spread is to outspeed Vaporeon who can kinda wall you, the second one is just for more bulk.

hey thanx, did you mean to put leftovers
[PokeCommunity.com] Request an Individual Moveset  / Incomplete Team Help Thread
or were you surposed to put lifeorb

and who would be best to accompany chomp and scizor espeon or slowbro


soz, i just had to show you guys the awsomeness, of this picture, who do you think would win and who is the best overall out of all the pokes

also can i have a special wall togekiss
 
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also can i have a special wall togekiss[/FONT]

Togekiss @ Leftovers
Serene Grace
Calm
252 HP / 6 Defense / 252 Special Defense
Body Slam / Thunder Wave
Air Slash
Roost
Aura Sphere / Nasty Plot / Substitute

Paralysis and flinching with Air Slash can be quite annoying, plus you can wall a ton of stuff with that bulky EV spread.
 
Togekiss @ Leftovers
Serene Grace
Calm
252 HP / 6 Defense / 252 Special Defense
Body Slam / Thunder Wave
Air Slash
Roost
Aura Sphere / Nasty Plot / Substitute

Paralysis and flinching with Air Slash can be quite annoying, plus you can wall a ton of stuff with that bulky EV spread.

hey thanx, i highlighted the moves that i would use
need to know which is best for chomp and sicizor espeon or slowbro ergentaly
 
Well, you said you wanted Gengar, so Gengar you shall have:


Gengar @ Expert Belt
Timid
252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Hp
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
HP Ice
Focus Blast

I go HP Fire over HP Ice for hitting Steels, but you already have Arcanine, so HP Ice would be better.

I wouldn't really use Arcanine as a lead, maybe something that can use Stealth Rock/Spikes, or something that stops others using them.


i highly doubt he will be my lead lol also is thunderbolt needed on gengar, arcanine and jolteon each already have a elect. move... also would the gengar work, better then dusknoir?
 
hey thanx, did you mean to put leftovers
[PokeCommunity.com] Request an Individual Moveset  / Incomplete Team Help Thread
or were you surposed to put lifeorb

and who would be best to accompany chomp and scizor espeon or slowbro


soz, i just had to show you guys the awsomeness, of this picture, who do you think would win and who is the best overall out of all the pokes

also can i have a special wall togekiss

Leftovers, for more recovery. Life Orb would work too, but you lose a lot of your defensive ability with it.
 
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Are these good IVs for an Adamant Breloom with Poison Heal?

24 / 31 / 31 / 29 / 31 / 20

Can it survive without max HP and Speed? What set should I use? Should I make any adjustments to the EVs? Thanks if someone can help me so I'll finally get into battling, just maybe. :c
 
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Are these good IVs for an Adamant Breloom with Poison Heal?

24 / 31 / 31 / 29 / 31 / 20

Can it survive without max HP and Speed? What set should I use? Should I make any adjustments to the EVs? Thanks if someone can help me so I'll finally get into battling, just maybe. :c

Ohai TB! :D

IVs are good, not great. HP is decent I guess, but 31 speed is almost a necessity since Breloom isn't too swift to begin with. You could live with 20, but I'd rebreed for something a bit better. That's just me though...he's still perfectly useable if you want =P

Adamant nature leaves you with a ton of option for Breloom. Choice Band, SubSeed, Swords Dance, Bulk Up, Sub Punch are all viable. EVs should mostly go in Attack and Speed, but they become a bit more specific with each set. It all depends on what you want it to do bb ;D
 
i highly doubt he will be my lead lol also is thunderbolt needed on gengar, arcanine and jolteon each already have a elect. move... also would the gengar work, better then dusknoir?

You could put Hypnosis in there, i suppose, but it's got really low accuracy.Thunderbolt is standard, and all i gave you was standard with a different item.


And Gengar and Dusknoir are two totally different pokes. How they're played is completely different. Dusknoir is normally a tank, and even it's offensive sets are completely different, as they're physical, whereas Gengar is a special sweeper. If you went for a physical sweeper, i would not recommend Dusknoir.

And i suppose i should give you a Mamo set too.Here's leadMamo, seeing as it doesn't sound like you have a lead yet:

Mamoswine @ Focus Sash / Life Orb
Snow Cloak
Adamant
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Stealth Rock
Ice Shard
Earthquake
Endeavour/Protect/Stone Edge.

The last slot is a tricky one.
Endeavor is a great attack if you are low on health and are faster than your opponent. However, Protect is a great move as well and enables you to defeat Fake Out Infernape and Ambipom leads. It also allows you to scout choiced leads such as Breloom, Gyarados, or even Gengar.
If Focus Sash doesn't give you enough power , Life Orb is a good alternative, allowing Mamoswine to OHKO Metagross. If you decide to use Life Orb, Stone Edge should be used in the last slot as it provides the most power against Gyarados, Zapdos, and Moltres.
 
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Are these good IVs for an Adamant Breloom with Poison Heal?

24 / 31 / 31 / 29 / 31 / 20

Can it survive without max HP and Speed? What set should I use? Should I make any adjustments to the EVs? Thanks if someone can help me so I'll finally get into battling, just maybe. :c

Oh my you posted in S+M. :O !!

Anyways, maybe a little more speed but thats still workable, all it needs to outrun really is Adamant Tar, so yeah. That and you already beat no speed Gliscor even with 20 speed ivs so~. xD

Anyways there are a few sets that work on Loom so it all depends on what you want.

Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Spore
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Leech Seed / Stone Edge

Sub Seeder, you basically Spore them, sub up and then hit what you can with powerful Focus Punches and Leech Seed slower bulkier foes from behind your subs to wear them down. With Leech Seed + Poison Heal you hardly lose any HP from your subs so this guy can be very irritating to play against when you keep refreshing your subs. You may use an attacking move over Leech Seed if you want however, of which i would suggest Stone Edge, you could use Seed Bomb but its coverage with fighting alone is really poor.

Breloom (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 6HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- SuperPower
- Seed Bomb
- Stone Edge
- Mach Punch

Choice Loom. Takes prediction to work but when you can the pay offs are huge. If you can get this guy in pretty much NOTHING likes taking batterings from this. To give you an example of its power it OHKO's Salamence and Gyarados after an intimidate with Stealth Rock up with Stone Edge.

Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Spore
- Seed Bomb / Facade
- Focus Punch
- Stone Edge

Same as the first set, but more attacking minded. Spore your switch in and Focus Punch as they stay asleep or switch out. Other moves are for coverage, Stone Edge hits fliers and Gengar and Seed Bomb is just for secondary STAB whilst Facade is an interesting option with the Toxic Orb to batter Celebi and what not with.

Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb / Life Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
- Swords Dance
- Mach Punch
- Stone Edge
- Spore / Facade


SD Loom. Spore your initial switch in and then Swords Dance late game and pick frail sweepers off with your boosted priority. Stone Edge again has the best coverage so i advise using that as your secondary attack move. Last slot is up to you, Spore is probably the second best move in the game so is really hard to give up on and ensure you an easier set up. However Facade might appeal to you to as with a Swords Dance boost it really hurts anything that doesnt resist it.

^^


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There is also this set which i have been using lately to annoy people lol

Breloom (M) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
EVs: 6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
- Spore
- Stun Spore
- SuperPower
- Stone Edge

Double powder fun. You Spore your initial switch in and as they will most likely switch next turn, you then Stun Spore then next pokemon as they switch it in. Its a great way to cripple 1/3 of your opponents team. SuperPower is for STAB and Stone Edge rounds off the coverage.
 
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Are these good IVs for an Adamant Breloom with Poison Heal?

24 / 31 / 31 / 29 / 31 / 20

Can it survive without max HP and Speed? What set should I use? Should I make any adjustments to the EVs? Thanks if someone can help me so I'll finally get into battling, just maybe. :c

Oh, come now, we both know that you can do better. What happened to that Ditto with flawless Attack and Speed that I traded you?



...Anyway, I also have a question: I plan on eventually breeding for a Togekiss, however as this is going to be done in the 4th Generation so that I can breed it with Nasty Plot, also giving it Body Slam is not exactly going to be viable. So, my question is, is the power difference between Secret Power and Body Slam really that much of a problem in the long run, even counting STAB?

EDIT: I also realize that Thunder Wave is a viable option, however I am going to be using this as somewhat of a scouting move, as well, and I have less of a problem with not affecting the two popular Ghost-types in Wi-Fi OU than I do with not affecting any of the popular Bulky Grounds.
 
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You could put Hypnosis in there, i suppose, but it's got really low accuracy.Thunderbolt is standard, and all i gave you was standard with a different item.


And Gengar and Dusknoir are two totally different pokes. How they're played is completely different. Dusknoir is normally a tank, and even it's offensive sets are completely different, as they're physical, whereas Gengar is a special sweeper. If you went for a physical sweeper, i would not recommend Dusknoir.

And i suppose i should give you a Mamo set too.Here's leadMamo, seeing as it doesn't sound like you have a lead yet:

Mamoswine @ Focus Sash / Life Orb
Snow Cloak
Adamant
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Stealth Rock
Ice Shard
Earthquake
Endeavour/Protect/Stone Edge.

The last slot is a tricky one.
Endeavor is a great attack if you are low on health and are faster than your opponent. However, Protect is a great move as well and enables you to defeat Fake Out Infernape and Ambipom leads. It also allows you to scout choiced leads such as Breloom, Gyarados, or even Gengar.
If Focus Sash doesn't give you enough power , Life Orb is a good alternative, allowing Mamoswine to OHKO Metagross. If you decide to use Life Orb, Stone Edge should be used in the last slot as it provides the most power against Gyarados, Zapdos, and Moltres.

i was about to ask why snow cloak, but is it in case your in a battle with a hail stall?
also focus sash, i dont understand why that would even be a thought...?

and hell, why your at it what should my thired pokemon be?
lol
thank you btw.
 
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