Revolution control.

[Johto Boy]

I for one like the controler. And making a shell for it is going to make it a lot better. I think that Nintendo is going to do better this gen than last. Why? Mostly because of the outragous prices of the the other systems. And Nintendo is a "huge slum"? Wrong. In consoles they are suffering, but they own the portable market. The DS is selling amazingly well, especially in Japan. Sony thinks they can take over the portable market, but Nintendo is whipping them. Anyway, I wasn't all that excited about the touch screen on the DS, but now I love it, and I think it will be the same with the Revolution. Yes, it is somewhat like the touch screen on the DS, but it do many more things that the DS can't. I can't wait to try it out and see what it is really like.

 

[Brittany]

'What evidence is there that they control the market? All I've seen is their attempts at monopolising the market.'
That's purely your perspective, the point is, that they have control. If Sony controls big titles like Final Fantasy and Grand Theft Auto, most gamers like Sony. We can't blame it on them trying to monopolize the market, blame it on the consumers who prefer it.

Why did those companies support Sony? Because the machine gave them what they thought was capable for their games. For example, Squaresoft didn't move down to Sony because they thought the PS1 was going to be the best, they did it because CDs and required memory cards could get them the space for game they wanted. Final Fantasy VII could have been on n64 with better graphics, but exactly how many multi-cartridge games did n64 have, and exactly how many cartridges would it take for Ninty to support it? 10, 12? More.

And the truth is, Sony didn't have control over the market in that gen, Square moved on because they wanted an epic adventure that, despite n64's superior graphics and more, wouldn't support it. How many ways do you think Revolution could support a game without doing something that's been done before, just in a way gamer's aren't used to? Very minimal, it all comes down to which style they prefer, and what games are released for each system.

 

[The S]

You won't look like a spazz playing it. You don't have to wave your arms around, just motions of the wrist. It'll be like using a computer mouse.

Yes, yes it will make me look like a spazz playing it. If one looks like a spazz playing Kirby's Tilt & Tumble and Warioware Twisted (even though those games rock hard), then the Revolution controller will, as well. That GC controller adapter above makes a world of difference, though. Seriously, though, I have as much reason to hate the controller as the others do to like it. I don't necessarily like the design for the Revolution, either (it looks like a disembodied CD-ROM drive), but that doesn't mean I don't like the system itself.

And doesn't anybody ever read my sig? Truer advice has never been spoken.

 

[Barry]

Yes, yes it will make me look like a spazz playing it. If one looks like a spazz playing Kirby's Tilt & Tumble and Warioware Twisted (even though those games rock hard), then the Revolution controller will, as well. That GC controller adapter above makes a world of difference, though. Seriously, though, I have as much reason to hate the controller as the others do to like it. I don't necessarily like the design for the Revolution, either (it looks like a disembodied CD-ROM drive), but that doesn't mean I don't like the system itself.

And doesn't anybody ever read my sig? Truer advice has never been spoken.

If true advice can't be spoken, then "Truer advice has never been" isn't worth paying attention to because it's not true.

 

[John Denver]

I'm a Nintendo FanBoy. And I do give out facts on why this controller is going to rock.

Now your not, you're just a hardcore fan. You're not a fan boy cause you actually use *gasp* logic in your posts XD (that ecks dee was just for you)

The GC has came in last in this gen's race. But it's sells wasn't that far off of the X-Box's sells (the PS2 came out a year before so you can't really count that). Yes both Sony and Microsoft has a larger market. The X-Box is a new system, and Nintendo did kind of do poorly on the GC (it would have been better off with a DVD player),

If it had a DVD player, it wouldn't have been so cheap...I'd rather it be inexpensive, but that's just me.

I think it would have been better for them to have the standard sized CDs.

A fanboy wouldn't say that, faboys go "OMG Small CD's are teh ROXOORRS!

And I can't really think of something new out of that system. And you have to remember, back in the days of the NES and SNES there was only 2 big console makers out there. Nintendo and Sega (and back then Nintendo owned the market). And as soon as 2 new console makers pops up and pulls in more sells then Nintendo everyone goes "OMG Nintendo isn't big anymore and it's going to hell". And you know good as well Microsoft's X-Box wouldn't be half as big if it wasn't for Halo.

We all know Halo saved X-box from extinction, but that argument has been beaten over 50 thousand times. To be fair, isn't it true that pokemon saved gameboy?

That is like the only thing pushing the X-Box and the 360. If they didn't have that then I couldn't see them lasting all that long.

I don't like the x-box 360...to be honest, the graphics aren't that much better than the x-box (nowhere NEAR in comparision to something like PS2 and PS1

And I might add that Nintendo owns the hand-held market. The DS has more sells then the PSP, and the GBE should be out sometime in 06 or 07 (GameBoys is Nintendo's real hand-held pusher).

How right you are!! I agree that Nintendo rules the handheld market with an iron fist!...but...it's the consoles that they're slumming in

If you like the GC style controller then buy a controller shell. If you don't like the remote style and you also don't like the normal style then what do you want to use? A mouse?
I don't see what's the over the top big deal downside about the controller. It's going to have a shell and it's going to be no different then the 360 and PS3 controllers (as in 1 normal controller that everyone has been using since they were a kid and got their first game system). So what's wrong with it?

the look of it...I know it looks cool, but it just doesn't look practical (to me)

The only thing I see wrong with it is making people jump the gun and think it's a crazy idea when they first see a pic of it.

It's sad to admit, but the first impression is what makes the most money

And it's going to do it too. You'll have people that looks at it and doesn't read up on it and will just brush it off as something crazy when it isn't.

the mainstream gamer, the primary consumer...Heh, sucks doesn't it...

It's just something new, and people is going to be ify at first. Like they were with the analog sick or CDs or hand-helds etc. Are we always going to stick with the same old stuff and never try to make games and systems and controllers better? If you think that way then we shouldn't be using CDs, we should be using cartridges. We shouldn't have 3D games, we should be back to the old 2D ones. We shouldn't have analog sicks, we should only use the D-Pad. We should go back to the days of the 8 bit games, and not the 128+ bit we have now.

That's fallacy...you can't compare the two

What happens if Nintendo succeeds in making the next way in gaming.

Then life would be better

And just blows way them two in sells (I don't think it can beat the PS3 because you got all them nuts that just goes by power, and the 360 has a head start). And Sony and Microsoft does what Nintendo has done. What then? You going to quit gaming? Nintendo has came up with lots of great ideas that has lasted and has made it's way to other systems. I'm not saying they wouldn't have thought of it, but Nintendo came out with it first. This might just be the next thing Nintendo came out with that adds a spin on gaming and might change the way we play games in the future.

NIntendo is my fav all the way...but I can still admit when I don't like something, unlike other people *coughfanboyscough*

I think this might be my last post in the thread. Because if you guys have read all my posts and is still not open minded about the controller then there isn't anything more I can say.

ohhhh...Dakota,ryan,Zero ex,Kaga, I think it's time you bow to the winner of this debate: Arcanine!!! He can really dish out the facts! Zero, since you were pounded with awsome facts already, your curse is lifted! Go Arcanine, he's the winner, he provided facts, you provided squat, he's the winner, he's the winner!

And you're the fanboy who doesn't add anything good to this conversation...you're the loser, you're the loser.

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OK people listen up...it's fact time! woo hoo!

Sony controls the videogame console market BECAUSE they get the most sells in hardware and software

Nintendo is in a slum in the console market BECAUSE they control the smallest share of the market, 10%

Nintendo still pwns everyone else in the handheld market BECAUSE the gba outsells the PS2, Gamecube and X-box.......combined...

These are facts by the way...You don't have to accept them but, oh wait...YEAH YA DO! *dances*

Oh Nintendo, how I hope you get ahead again in this next generation of consoles...

 

[Chairman Kaga]

ohhhh...Dakota,ryan,Zero ex,Kaga, I think it's time you bow to the winner of this debate: Arcanine!!! He can really dish out the facts! Zero, since you were pounded with awsome facts already, your curse is lifted! Go Arcanine, he's the winner, he provided facts, you provided squat, he's the winner, he's the winner!

You wouldn't mind providing some facts of your own in a mature way, would you? Basically all I've seen you do is ditto people who are willing to write lengthy posts and pitch your own little "rofl rite on!!1" post in afterward. When I HAVE seen you say anything in this thread, it's been immature and unsubstantiated, so stop with the "lolz j00 l00z!!!!1:dead:" statements and find something real to say.

Arcanine is a great guy with a lot of great points, but you only do a disservice to his points when you go on as such.

 

[Zero ex]

ohhhh...Dakota,ryan,Zero ex,Kaga, I think it's time you bow to the winner of this debate: Arcanine!!! He can really dish out the facts! Zero, since you were pounded with awsome facts already, your curse is lifted! Go Arcanine, he's the winner, he provided facts, you provided squat, he's the winner, he's the winner!

Yes, arcanine give us some good facts, but you didn't, you have only be depending in arcanine posts, you have not posted something that can support revolution. But you have posted things to take Ps3 reputation, besides, we do not care in your posts, your posts sucks.

Still, i have read tons of articles and i have seen the video. I still do not like the control, and i think the gameplay will cool, but you will get bored of it in few days.

Barry why do you say that ps3 games will be crap. I have seen devil may cry 4 and Metal gear solid 4: Guns of patriots, and they seem to be very cool and what i have only seen of Revolution, is samus standing and her ship.

 

[John Denver]

You wouldn't mind providing some facts of your own in a mature way, would you? Basically all I've seen you do is ditto people who are willing to write lengthy posts and pitch your own little "rofl rite on!!1" post in afterward. When I HAVE seen you say anything in this thread, it's been immature and unsubstantiated, so stop with the "lolz j00 l00z!!!!1:dead:" statements and find something real to say.

Arcanine is a great guy with a lot of great points, but you only do a disservice to his points when you go on as such.

Thank you...at least someone put it into words...

 

[The S]

See, what the thing is, is I'm CHALLENGING Nintendo to interest me in the controller. All that I have seen (other than the GC adapter) hasn't impressed me yet.

 

[John Denver]

I'm just glad you can use the GC controller on the rev *phew*

 

[Swizzler121]

Sorry, but that's kinda good. You repeatedly say we're missing the point, or something to the effect, but we're not, we have our own opinions, and many of us are being open-minded about it, but the possibilities aren't endless, they're extremely limited.

And that limitation is fine if you'll love the gameplay, or just happen to be a fanboi thinking it's the best thing since sliced bread.

Actually the possiblities are limitless, and you are missing the point, and I'll show you why...

When you think of the revolution controller the first thing that comes to your mind is minigames, and at the beginning of the video that's what they show. Then the anilog attachment comes into play, this broadens the game spectrum with First person games such as metroid, Medal of honor, And 007. THEN you add the controller attachment and it expands it to everything the gamecube can do. that is everything, Depending on how you mix and match, yes, the possiblilites are endless. I rest my case. ;)

P.S. I may be a fanboi, and I may have acted stupid on here before, but that was becase it was late/early and I was on a sugar-high, it wakes me up. But from now on I will be strictly Debater in these forums, unless your supposed to joke around.

 

[Brittany]

Actually the possiblities are limitless, and you are missing the point, and I'll show you why...

When you think of the revolution controller the first thing that comes to your mind is minigames, and at the beginning of the video that's what they show. Then the anilog attachment comes into play, this broadens the game spectrum with First person games such as metroid, Medal of honor, And 007. THEN you add the controller attachment and it expands it to everything the gamecube can do. that is everything, Depending on how you mix and match, yes, the possiblilites are endless. I rest my case. ;)

P.S. I may be a fanboi, and I may have acted stupid on here before, but that was becase it was late/early and I was on a sugar-high, it wakes me up. But from now on I will be strictly Debater in these forums, unless your supposed to joke around.

The controller may be far superior for FPSs, and they've said that there's a Halo killer in development, but that's about as far as it goes. The controller attachement doesn't guarentee all of those possibilities and more, although it may. As I have said countless times, that will depend on how skilled Nintendo will be at integrating both styles. But seriously, how well would putting the 'remote styled' controller into the shell improve gaming? Think about an action RPG like Kingdom Hearts or Zelda games, what exactly will it do? Racing games using the attachment? Platform gaming? Traditional RPGs and MMORPGs?

 

[John Denver]

Actually the possiblities are limitless, and you are missing the point, and I'll show you why...

this outta be good...

When you think of the revolution controller the first thing that comes to your mind is minigames,

No, Not really

and at the beginning of the video that's what they show. Then the anilog attachment comes into play, this broadens the game spectrum with First person games such as metroid, Medal of honor, And 007.

That's one genre of game that the controller might work on...one

THEN you add the controller attachment and it expands it to everything the gamecube can do. that is everything, Depending on how you mix and match, yes, the possiblilites are endless. I rest my case. ;)

You gave one example (a poor one) and then you say that if all else fails, you can use the old controller? Endless? Don't think so...

P.S. I may be a fanboi,

whadya mean "may"

and I may have acted stupid on here before,

correct

but that was becase it was late/early and I was on a sugar-high, it wakes me up.

omfg, that's the best excuse you could come up with?

But from now on I will be strictly Debater in these forums, unless your supposed to joke around.

prove it...

Fanboy...You should try finding your own information instead of whoring off everybody elses. Endless possibilities? C'MON, you're just talking out of your rear-end now.

 

[Allstories]

i think the gameplay will cool, but you will get bored of it in few days.

THE WHOLE POINT OF THE CONTROLLER IS TO PREVENT THAT EXACT IDEA.

 

[Barry]

Barry why do you say that ps3 games will be crap. I have seen devil may cry 4 and Metal gear solid 4: Guns of patriots, and they seem to be very cool and what i have only seen of Revolution, is samus standing and her ship.

Not games, the system. All of their previews so far have just been video. They can make cinema graphics far better than actual gameplay. I'm talking about the graphics, not the games.

I might get a PS3, just because it will be cheaper than the Xbox 360, I usually get two systems per generation, and I need a system to continue the Dynasty Warriors series. Without that game, I'd just stick with Nintendo.

 

[Kurosaki]

Actually the possiblities are limitless, and you are missing the point, and I'll show you why...

When you think of the revolution controller the first thing that comes to your mind is minigames, and at the beginning of the video that's what they show. Then the anilog attachment comes into play, this broadens the game spectrum with First person games such as metroid, Medal of honor, And 007. THEN you add the controller attachment and it expands it to everything the gamecube can do. that is everything, Depending on how you mix and match, yes, the possiblilites are endless. I rest my case. ;)

P.S. I may be a fanboi, and I may have acted stupid on here before, but that was becase it was late/early and I was on a sugar-high, it wakes me up. But from now on I will be strictly Debater in these forums, unless your supposed to joke around.

If you're gonna start being a "debater", start debating with some valid points, instead of following your "fanboi" instincts... D said everything that needs to be, and I have to XD!!!! at it... XD

 

[TRIFORCE89]

The shell is an option, not the focus. Why buy it just to gain what we already had, and be left with a console doing less? If you use the shell, Nintendo has suceeded in creating a console less powerful than the others with no Revolution at all.

So...you're complaining that the controller is so different, yet if they made a "normal" controller it would be a bad idea? O_o How would using the shell, or a "normal" control make it less powerful? We don't know the specs yet (unfortunately, I'm not saying that's a good thing. We should know them by now). How can you (not you specifically) judge what you have not used or compare it to others when you have no information. I have no problem if people don't like the Revolution, say it sucks, etc. As long is they have proof, something to validate their claims. And since their isn't any information, you can't make a claim (on the Revolution anyway, Nintendo market wise and the like - feel free).

I think the shell will be more than just a shell. Excuse the stupid comment, but just sticking the remote in the back wouldn't do anything. You'd press buttons on the shell and nothing would happen. There is more to the shell then being a shell. I see no problem with there being a shell. You said yourself that developers went to the PS1 because it gave them more possibilities and capabilities. So, logically, why wouldn't Nintendo offer other controllers/shells to give developers more possibilities?

I can't see the movement focus being used all the time, or at least being used quite the way it was shown in the video. Having to flick your wrist every 20 seconds to make Mario jump would be annoying and painful. Nintendo is not stupid, it has made mistakes, but they aren't stupid.

Where's this 10% of the market thing coming from? https://nintendoinsider.com/site/EEEFylpkElFffmiBlr.php

 

[John Denver]

Brittany is sort of an anti-boi...inverse of a fanboy, against Nintendo no matter what...

(unless, of course, she proves me wrong) *crosses fingers*

 

[ryan]

Well, it does seem a bit weird to release an add on that will just turn it into (essentially) a GCN controller. Especially since it can handle real GCN controllers, (or so I've heard). That would be a sign that Nintendo is aware how bizzar this design is and are trying to cover themselves... That's the way I see it at least.

 

[Andrea-chan]

Well, it does seem a bit weird to release an add on that will just turn it into (essentially) a GCN controller. Especially since it can handle real GCN controllers, (or so I've heard). That would be a sign that Nintendo is aware how bizzar this design is and are trying to cover themselves... That's the way I see it at least.

The GC controller ports is most likely for GC games. Unless it's like the PS3 where you can have more controllers but they are wired (I hope they do it that way, because I know the PS3 has 7 wireless controllers and I think the 360 has more then 4).

I'm guessing that most Rev games will use the old controller style. For all we know the shell might just be a way to slowly move over to the remote style (or whatever style Nintendo is shooting for) for future systems.

Oh wait, I said I wasn't going to reply to this thread anymore. Oh well, I don't feel like deleting the post. XD