I'm sorry, but I don't argue with fanboys, seeing as you'll simply ignore every correct thing I say.
Chairman Kaga said:The huge focus on motion sensor technology really wrecks the concept of the traditional video game for me...it's been tried before as various peripherals on several systems (ie NES Light Gun, SNES Super Scope, PS2 Eye Toy) and has always been met with limited success. It's not a matter of laziness that makes the controller, and now the Revolution itself, so undesirable, it's just that there is a limit to how much a controller should be able to do and what should define a controller. Games and one's prowess at games revolve around dexterity, which is an equalizer among all types of gamers, but games that involve motion can induce fatigue quickly in some gamers that would otherwise be very skilled at their craft...I, for one, don't want to be up and swinging swords, punching, touching, etc.
I'm disappointed that nintendo managed to turn the Revolution into what is basically a console version of the DS. I couldn't care less about interactivity, in fact I've found it to be hampering to the game experience. I think of the Super Scope and several arcade games I've played that involve swords and guns, as well as test Eye Toys at gaming stores, and I've found that with all of them they don't have complete accuracy; I'm concerned that a device in a controller won't even be able to stand up to what's already out; be angry at me all I want but I have very little faith in Nintendo's ability to deliver something worthwhile at this point. The fact that they haven't even revealed one game for the system makes me wonder if they rushed to make their "innovation", then sat around, puzzled, asking themselves how they could possibly apply this to anything now. I just have no idea whatsoever how this is going to be anything but awkward.
Barry said:There isn't a huge focus on movement. That is just a feature they are showing right now to say, "Hey, we've got the buttons as a possiblity, as well as this new thing to attract new gamers." The idea is to make things easier to play which has been accomplished.
You all against evidentally just don't get it. As I said (but evidentally no one read), there is attachments to use that are like their older systems to their controllers (just like the gamecube one in my post above.
As far as your remarks like "controller", it is very much so a controller. Better than any others. You just don't understand it. As I've said, at first glance, "Oh it's just a remote." But it's far more and will rule over the other gaming platforms.
This is just another step in the sucession of lightguns, dance mats, eyetoys, and more in the category. The only difference is, this is what they're basing the console around. The new features aren't much of an option, they're the succession to original gameplay. The fact of the day is, with the Revolution, traditional gameplay has become what used to be the minority gameplay-wise.Arcanine said:A lot of you are missing the point. Yes I see that it will get tiring to move the controller around all the time. And I myself wouldn't like it if I had to do it with every single game out there.
Dakota said:Seriously, it's not cool to be a blind fanboy, it's just annoying. To just ignore facts simply because you love a company so much.
I don't care how much of a fan of Nintendo you are. Nintendo controls 10% of the console market...10%!! Compared to Sony's 50 and X-box's 20ish? How is that not a slum?
Nintendo prides itself on being original, but there IS such a thing as being too deviant. Nintendo needs to focus it's primary base on the primary consumer. They need to make the mainstream gamer AND the hardcore gamer happy. If this is their idea for the next generation of Nintendo...I'm not down with that...
I'm a Nintendo FanBoy. And I do give out facts on why this controller is going to rock.Dakota said:Seriously, it's not cool to be a blind fanboy, it's just annoying. To just ignore facts simply because you love a company so much.
I don't care how much of a fan of Nintendo you are. Nintendo controls 10% of the console market...10%!! Compared to Sony's 50 and X-box's 20ish? How is that not a slum?
Nintendo prides itself on being original, but there IS such a thing as being too deviant. Nintendo needs to focus it's primary base on the primary consumer. They need to make the mainstream gamer AND the hardcore gamer happy. If this is their idea for the next generation of Nintendo...I'm not down with that...
they aren't in a slum in gaming! the games rock! it's called 3rd party! nobody buys the games though, there in a slum of *style* everybodys got to pretty things up nowadays, heck, I would buy the revolution if the case was a cardboard box!
Cell processor and blu-ray dont exist yet
Okay, that's full of crap. Only so much can be done to graphics because of the Cell, that doesn't mean it won't be able to provide photorealistic games, but achieving the level of realism developers are willing to work for in this generation won't take up all of the system's resources.Barry said:The PS3 is seriously going to be the worst system (not by sales but by attributes). It's full of crap. I don't expect it to improve on the PS2 by much at all so people who plan to buy one, just remember me and you'll feel stupid after you see that the only improvement is graphics (which won't be great because they lied about it).
So basically, are you saying 'Sony didn't pwn Ninty because they came out a year earlier', and 'MS didn't pwn Ninty because of Halo' ?Arcanine said:I'm a Nintendo FanBoy. And I do give out facts on why this controller is going to rock.
The GC has came in last in this gen's race. But it's sells wasn't that far off of the X-Box's sells (the PS2 came out a year before so you can't really count that). Yes both Sony and Microsoft has a larger market. The X-Box is a new system, and Nintendo did kind of do poorly on the GC (it would have been better off with a DVD player), I think it would have been better for them to have the standard sized CDs. And I can't really think of something new out of that system. And you have to remember, back in the days of the NES and SNES there was only 2 big console makers out there. Nintendo and Sega (and back then Nintendo owned the market). And as soon as 2 new console makers pops up and pulls in more sells then Nintendo everyone goes "OMG Nintendo isn't big anymore and it's going to hell". And you know good as well Microsoft's X-Box wouldn't be half as big if it wasn't for Halo. That is like the only thing pushing the X-Box and the 360. If they didn't have that then I couldn't see them lasting all that long.
And GBE has exactly squat to prove it's existance?And I might add that Nintendo owns the hand-held market. The DS has more sells then the PSP, and the GBE should be out sometime in 06 or 07 (GameBoys is Nintendo's real hand-held pusher).
The shell is an option, not the focus. Why buy it just to gain what we already had, and be left with a console doing less? If you use the shell, Nintendo has suceeded in creating a console less powerful than the others with no Revolution at all.What happens if Nintendo succeeds in making the next way in gaming. And just blows way them two in sells (I don't think it can beat the PS3 because you got all them nuts that just goes by power, and the 360 has a head start). And Sony and Microsoft does what Nintendo has done. What then? You going to quit gaming? Nintendo has came up with lots of great ideas that has lasted and has made it's way to other systems. I'm not saying they wouldn't have thought of it, but Nintendo came out with it first. This might just be the next thing Nintendo came out with that adds a spin on gaming and might change the way we play games in the future.
Sorry, but that's kinda good. You repeatedly say we're missing the point, or something to the effect, but we're not, we have our own opinions, and many of us are being open-minded about it, but the possibilities aren't endless, they're extremely limited.I think this might be my last post in the thread. Because if you guys have read all my posts and is still not open minded about the controller then there isn't anything more I can say.
