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Special Demo Version

They can make a special Ash Hat Pikachu (20th movie one maybe) for the US/UM demos. That would be pretty cool!
 
OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire said:
The XY demo was never added to the e-shop, though. Just OrAs'.
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If I recall, that was a serial code thing or something like that?

That said guys, what do you think we'll get as a special Pokemon in a possible US/UM Special Demo Edition that could be transferred to the main US/UM games? OR/AS had the Glalie and S/M had Ash-Greninja.
 
I'm betting on region-exclusive hat Pikachu, if we get anything that can be transferred at all...or a random Pokemon with an exclusive Z-Crystal, like Munchlax. I can't see it being a Legendary, given that the data is designed to be carried over into the game from the beginning.
 
Meyneth said:
I'm betting on region-exclusive hat Pikachu, if we get anything that can be transferred at all...or a random Pokemon with an exclusive Z-Crystal, like Munchlax. I can't see it being a Legendary, given that the data is designed to be carried over into the game from the beginning.
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Though there was a Genesect event when B2W2 were released irc. Same with Victini (but that one was ingame so not as much of a game breaker).
 
I really hated Sun & Moon's demo and I never played the earlier demos, so we'll see if I even bother with it. It was just a waste of time with silly cutscenes and stupid pikachu sound effects instead of actually letting me play the game. :(
 
Pray that GF does better at making sure there is no spoilers for the main game. Datamining happened twice in a row.
 
Alexander18 said:
Pray that GF does better at making sure there is no spoilers for the main game. Datamining happened twice in a row.
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I think datamining is a problem and while I do like discussing what content has been discovered, I can understand why everyone won't easily stomach all those spoilers.
 
To be honest, I don't think we deserve a Special Demo Version, because of the leakers last year (and the people who got the games early and leaked them).
 
Hau said:
To be honest, I don't think we deserve a Special Demo Version, because of the leakers last year (and the people who got the games early and leaked them).
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Is that something we should all be punished for, though? I didn't leak the game. Did you? IIRC those who got the games early were blocked from online play for a time anyway, so it's not like the situation is completely out of their control.

If they have a problem with us getting games early, they need to come down on distributors. Although preferably not by artibrarily delaying the release in a single region by a week again.
 
I heard europe got punished for releasing games early. They had to wait about a week after everyone else to get the game.

As for the demo, it has been a problem twice in a row. Do we really need a third datamining in a row?
 
Alexander18 said:
I heard europe got punished for releasing games early. They had to wait about a week after everyone else to get the game.

As for the demo, it has been a problem twice in a row. Do we really need a third datamining in a row?
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Yes, that's correct...although considering the majority of leaks for XY came from the US and some people outside of EU territories got the games early as well it made absolutely zero sense for them to focus solely on us...although there may have been logistical reasons or something for the delay. But those weren't communicated, and they were only in the EU, and there is zero excuse for anything other than a simultaneous worldwide release in this day and age, especially for a series as popular as Pokemon coming from a company as well-established as Nintendo. So punishment for some imagined and stupid transgression seems the most likely reason.

Well, if they'd get their act together and properly design their demos, datamining wouldn't be an issue...although it may not be as big of an issue with these games simply because we're aware of all the new Pokemon and probably most of the features too.
 
I think Europe buying copies of X/Y early is completely unrelated to why the region had to wait an extra week for the release of OR/AS and S/M. At least US/UM is returning to a simultaneous worldwide release that X/Y had, in that no region has to wait an extra week.
 
Well, given that SM were the UK's biggest launch titles of any Nintendo game to date - and I'm pretty sure that extended to Europe at large, too - they would be phenomenally stupid to delay USUM.

That said, I'm not sure if sales of the previous titles would affect the likelihood of a demo version. I think it fairly likely, so they can attract additional interest and promote the games, but then again, perhaps they'll feel it won't be necessary. Honestly I'm not sure that datamining will even factor into the choice.
 
I feel that I'm really conflicted on this. On one hand, they have a reason to use a special demo for the game considering the sales Sun and Moon had. They also have that Hat-Pikachu event which would be perfect for the demo ( but that could always be a serial code thing).

...on the other hand...I really don't want the game to be leaked super fast like last time. I was lucky enough to avoid getting spoiled by XY, SuMo was impossible to avoid. I know the moment the game is leaked everyone and their mother will be talking about it and I'm going to get spoiled this time around. So really, I'm leaning towards the fact that I HOPE they WILL NOT release a demo.
 
I mean, they know they get datamined, they tried stopping that with Sun and Moon's demo, but accidently left some stuff in like Shiny forms. They're getting better at taking stuff out though.
 
What baffles me is why this is a learning process, when in this day and age it is surely not difficult to create a demo that won't get datamined. I do wonder about GF/Nintendo's official stance on datamining is, when they do these ridiculous things. This is the company that are so anal about copyright and piracy that they region locked ALL of their consoles prior to the Switch, and did a complete u-turn with the 3DS by region locking that. You would think, logically, they would iron-clad their demos, if they cared that much.

I don't actually think they care - spoilers/leaks drum up hype, and hype sells games. A fair few people get upset over spoilers, but...well, they're not THAT hard to avoid, really. So in a way datamining only really benefits them, and it's not really breaching their precious copyright or street dates or whatever when it isn't the full game.
 
Meyneth said:
What baffles me is why this is a learning process, when in this day and age it is surely not difficult to create a demo that won't get datamined. I do wonder about GF/Nintendo's official stance on datamining is, when they do these ridiculous things. This is the company that are so anal about copyright and piracy that they region locked ALL of their consoles prior to the Switch, and did a complete u-turn with the 3DS by region locking that. You would think, logically, they would iron-clad their demos, if they cared that much.

I don't actually think they care - spoilers/leaks drum up hype, and hype sells games. A fair few people get upset over spoilers, but...well, they're not THAT hard to avoid, really. So in a way datamining only really benefits them, and it's not really breaching their precious copyright or street dates or whatever when it isn't the full game.
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I think it's more so a GF issue rather than a Nintendo one. Demos for games like Smash 4, Awakening, etc. were completely scrubbed of excess information.

Thinking about it, Pokémon's the only series I know of who doesn't completely scrub their demos.
 
clbgolden said:
I think it's more so a GF issue rather than a Nintendo one. Demos for games like Smash 4, Awakening, etc. were completely scrubbed of excess information.

Thinking about it, Pokémon's the only series I know of who doesn't completely scrub their demos.
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I think you really do have a point now that you mention that. I guess Game Freak constructs the demos out of coding from the main games, but also makes some differences that did not appear in the main game, like how the X/Y demo had Sycamore using a team completely different to the Kanto starters team he used in the main games.
 
After the almost two month drought of news, I don't expect a Special Demo version, it seems like Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon will in fact be like Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum...
 
Hau said:
After the almost two month drought of news, I don't expect a Special Demo version, it seems like Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon will in fact be like Yellow, Crystal, Emerald and Platinum...
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How so? We have little info on the games. It is not confirmed that these are third version games. As for no demo, i think it is better that way.
 
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