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6th Gen Starter Pokémon

Pick a starter.

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Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:
I don't think it does at all...it's not like there's some unwritten rule saying a starter can't be dual type and have an immunity to another starter's secondary type...even if it hasn't happened yet.
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You always have to do the "Weakness and Resistance" intro battle where you battle against something stronger to show that your choice has both weaknesses and resistances against other types. This was capitalized more in Gen 5 where they put you up against the other two starters.

The beginning starters represent a beginning balance. Each type is weak and resists the other. When you add an immunity into it it defeats the purpose of the starter who represents complete balance. Now one Pokemon has an active advantage over another of their set as its both Super effective and immune giving the other typing no chance to defend itself. It doesn't matter what the other types on the Pokemon are, this is how they are marketed. By throwing in an immunity you destroy the marketed view of the Pokemon who has no chance against the other. There are children (the focus of all Pokemon games) who do teach only 1 type of attack to their Pokemon. They do take this into consideration.
Resists:
Grass ---> Fire ---> Water ---> Grass

Weak To:
Grass <--- Fire <--- Water <--- Grass


Resists:
Psychic xxxx Dark ---> Fighting ---> Psychic

Weak To:
Psychic <--- Dark <--- Fighting <--- Psychic

Between Psychic and Dark the pattern is completely broken making it unbalanced. It doesn't even create a triangle thanks to this and ruins the entire purpose of teaching children how to balance their teams to make up for Resistance and Weaknesses.

This is why I do not believe in an immunity existing in the Starters for the same generation. They have a specific role to teach children early in about the balance of types. I cannot see them willingly break this even for evolutions. Immunity is something you teach much later in the game with other Pokemon.
 
XanderO said:
You always have to do the "Weakness and Resistance" intro battle where you battle against something stronger to show that your choice has both weaknesses and resistances against other types. This was capitalized more in Gen 5 where they put you up against the other two starters.

The beginning starters represent a beginning balance. Each type is weak and resists the other. When you add an immunity into it it defeats the purpose of the starter who represents complete balance. Now one Pokemon has an active advantage over another of their set as its both Super effective and immune giving the other typing no chance to defend itself. It doesn't matter what the other types on the Pokemon are, this is how they are marketed. By throwing in an immunity you destroy the marketed view of the Pokemon who has no chance against the other. There are children (the focus of all Pokemon games) who do teach only 1 type of attack to their Pokemon. They do take this into consideration.
Resists:
Grass ---> Fire ---> Water ---> Grass

Weak To:
Grass <--- Fire <--- Water <--- Grass


Resists:
Psychic xxxx Dark ---> Fighting ---> Psychic

Weak To:
Psychic <--- Dark <--- Fighting <--- Psychic

Between Psychic and Dark the pattern is completely broken making it unbalanced. It doesn't even create a triangle thanks to this and ruins the entire purpose of teaching children how to balance their teams to make up for Resistance and Weaknesses.

This is why I do not believe in an immunity existing in the Starters for the same generation. They have a specific role to teach children early in about the balance of types. I cannot see them willingly break this even for evolutions. Immunity is something you teach much later in the game with other Pokemon.
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Well they could add a discussion on immunity early on in the Pokémon School...that'll introduce new players to immunities.
Also by the time one evolves their starter one usually knows about immunities...it's their final after all. One would have the first two pure typed evolutions to learn this.
 
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Is anyone else disappointed with Fennekin? It is becoming more and more....feminine(?), I guess. I might have to take Froakie after all...I hope At least one of those two will evolve into something more badass, so I don't have to ditch them right off.
 
I like how Fennekin line look feminine, it make a change about all these male looking starters.
 
I like how Braixen looks feminine as well, a lot to do with me imagining Fennekin as a female when I first saw it. However, I wish that they would give slight gender differences... something as simple as making its "dress" point less outwards, not have a tuft of fur curving outward over its chest, and not giving it bedroom-eyes.

We've had previous starters show gender differences, such as Venusaur, Blaziken and Meganium, so this wouldn't be a big deal.
 
Twilight Sky said:
I really don't see how it becoming feminine is a bad thing. I actually think it's a nice change, since we've never really had a "feminine-looking" fire-type before, to put it that way. So I don't really mind it, personally. n_n
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Basically Derk hit the nail here, Fennekin is basically more feminine-looking compared to past Fire starters who usually had a "masculine" appearance. The witch theme with Braixen further escalates this. However it still continued the trend of biped Fire starter evolutions. That's why I think Fennekin is interesting, it stands out from the crowd in that it's more feminine-looking and I can't wait to see how the final evo turns out, same with the other two.
 
Yeah, I guess you're right. I am just a bit disappointed since I was really looking forward to suing it since I wasn't a huge fan of the other two. But yeah, you are right.
 
Not Necessarily. Zorua evolves into Zoruark which looks pretty badass and not feminine (If we ignore the long hair xD )
Or even better. ABRA line. One of the coolest evolution lines I've seen.
 
I'll be picking Froakie and Fennekin. Froakie's evolution just looks... awesome. It really looks like a frog, which is great. Better then the Poliwag line in my opinion ^^

Braixen looks badass too, haha xD
At first, I didn't like it at ALL. I wanted it like Fennekin... But I actually have taken a liking to it! I like how it uses the stick. FENNEKIN all the way!
 
xSvenx said:
Not Necessarily. Zorua evolves into Zoruark which looks pretty badass and not feminine (If we ignore the long hair xD )
Or even better. ABRA line. One of the coolest evolution lines I've seen.
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Are you saying a pokemon can't be both badass and feminine looking >_<?

I found Zoroark to be feminine...but that may be due to the anime's being a female...

I agree, Braixen looks cool. I hope it's wand becomes an elegant staff when it evolves, maybe adorned with rubies or garnets (red for fire).
 
It really all depends on how the final evolutions look, and what their stats and typings are :)
 
I AM GOING TO KILL GAME FREAK!

We have this adorable Chespin, and then it evolves and we're stuck with that ugly Quilladin! What is that thing!? A balloon? No thanks, Game Freak. Jigglypuff was enough for me. Go make Fennekin into a balloon. Oh, and while we're on the subject of Fennekin, Braxien is just ugly! The only one of them that looks good is Frogadier! I hope when Quilladin evolves, they'll get some sense and make it a Grass/Ground!
 
MarinoKadame said:
Braixen is cute not ugly at all.
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No its a matter of opinion. I think its ugly as well. Its a rejected idea for a Magical Girl design that they just slapped into Pokemon as a furry. Not really the best design I've ever seen and definitely the worst Fire starter so far for me and a few others. She'll only be ruined more later down the line.
 
To me, Fennekin and its evolutions look a little similar to Torchic's evolutionary line. They don't look too bad when you compare them to Tepig's line, though. They're meant to look like foxes, but if they looked even more like a real fox, then I probably would have liked them a little better. d:
 
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