Team Rocket ... Are In Alola?

[Desert Stream~]

I am still convinced Team Rocket are linked to Mewtwo. The games were too lazy to make Mewtwo apart of their plot and/or post game.

Why should i get excited for Team Rocket in USUM if they are not aiming for a legendary? It just be a boring post game in which they did mostly nothing. Team Rocket should for once target a legendary instead of aiming small like RBY, FRLG, GSC & HGSS.

But there's no reason for them to go after a legendary? That won't help them achieve their goal..... Which one would they go after anyways? And why should the player care?

And the games aren't "lazy". The legendaries were likely supposed to be hidden away, and not supposed to be something everyone knows about.

 

[Alexander18]

But there's no reason for them to go after a legendary? That won't help them achieve their goal..... Which one would they go after anyways? And why should the player care?

And the games aren't "lazy". The legendaries were likely supposed to be hidden away, and not supposed to be something everyone knows about.

Going after a legendary would actually benefit them. If they need to ensure that no one messes with their plans then a legendary would be a perfect trump card.

Mewtwo would make the most sense. It would definitely be a big help to their plans if they got hold of it.

Giovanni in the previous games would have been a force of nature if he had Mewtwo under the belt.

The fact that Team Rocket still did not go for a legendary when in Johto proves how useless and incompetent they were.

I love stories with evil teams who try getting their hands of legendaries. It makes them more interesting.

 

[Kieran]

All these complaints about Gen I pandering because of Team Rocket's return makes these modern fans just as bad as genwunners. We don't want this fanbase to become worse than the Sonic fanbase, Zelda fanbase, Minecraft fanbase, FNAF fanbase, Fire Emblem fanbase, Bendy Fanbase, Metroid fanbase, Final Fantasy fanbase, and Smash fanbase (at least the Cuphead fanbase is doing fine for now).

People can complain all they want, GameFreak will just put whatever they want into THEIR creation, and Pokemon will remain one of the top sellers anyway.

Incorrect. Game Freak shouldn't give two pokeballs about their fanbase mostly with the concern troll types, who pretty much destroy companies who do listen to them.

Let Game Freak put whatever they want on their game.

3. Fans are dumb and toxic
^ Spot on, I know someone particularly like this, so toxic we are Fairy types.

 

[Alexander18]

It is rude to call other fans dumb and toxic. Not to mention that it makes the person who said that just as bad. Please keep it civil. No need to resort to insults and rudeness.

Anyway, team rocket appearing is another kanto pandering that we don't need. Hope they are smart enough to go after/use Mewtwo this time.

 

[Powerserge]

Incorrect. Game Freak shouldn't give two pokeballs about their fanbase mostly with the concern troll types, who pretty much destroy companies who do listen to them.

Let Game Freak put whatever they want on their game.

Sagacious!

I was a bit saddened when I heard from the nugget bridge guys that Team Rocket had been long gone in Kanto. I always hoped that Team Rocket would just become more and more sinister, until they became the most evil and powerful criminal organization in the Pokemon world. Sort of like how DARK was in the Kikaider series, which is how I've always thought of Team Rocket.

 

[WingsofBliss]

The prospect of Team Rocket taking over the Aether Foundation makes them a serious threat, serious enough that Legendaries aren't even required. Aether has some pretty sophisticated technology, on top of their research into Pokemon, Ultra Beasts, and most likely now Ultra Space and the Ultra Recon Squad as possible allies to you and Aether. That's some pretty serious s*** for Team Rocket to get their hands on, it's almost scary.

 

[Alexander18]

The prospect of Team Rocket taking over the Aether Foundation makes them a serious threat, serious enough that Legendaries aren't even required. Aether has some pretty sophisticated technology, on top of their research into Pokemon, Ultra Beasts, and most likely now Ultra Space and the Ultra Recon Squad as possible allies to you and Aether. That's some pretty serious s*** for Team Rocket to get their hands on, it's almost scary.

I diagree. Taking over the aether foundation was no different to siph co. It was basically a terrible plot.

Legendaries are required otherwise evil teams are just pointless and have a useless story/plot. FRLG & HGSS showed how boring team rocket was.

Do we really need team rocket to be boring once again?

 

[WingsofBliss]

I diagree. Taking over the aether foundation was no different to siph co. It was basically a terrible plot.

Legendaries are required otherwise evil teams are just pointless and have a useless story/plot. FRLG & HGSS showed how boring team rocket was.

Do we really need team rocket to be boring once again?

I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say here. The Aether Foundation are a hell of a lot more advanced in technology and research than Silph co. If Team Rocket gets their hands on the Ultra Space research and Aether' s technology, and quite possibly access to Ultra Megaopolis, they can do some serious damage to the Pokemon universe in the games.

 

[Alexander18]

I don't think you understand what I'm trying to say here. The Aether Foundation are a hell of a lot more advanced in technology and research than Silph co. If Team Rocket gets their hands on the Ultra Space research and Aether' s technology, and quite possibly access to Ultra Megaopolis, they can do some serious damage to the Pokemon universe in the games.

I do not think team rocket is that smart. I doubt they would come up with a plan like that.

 

[pryce10]

I am still convinced Team Rocket are linked to Mewtwo. The games were too lazy to make Mewtwo apart of their plot and/or post game.

Why should i get excited for Team Rocket in USUM if they are not aiming for a legendary? It just be a boring post game in which they did mostly nothing. Team Rocket should for once target a legendary instead of aiming small like RBY, FRLG, GSC & HGSS.

and Team flare was chasing after Zygard not Xerneas or yveltal right? Games were just too lazy to put Zygard!

 

[pryce10]

I do not think team rocket is that smart. I doubt they would come up with a plan like that.

grunts? yes. But giovanni? He is smart enough to have influnce in two regions ( and so far Team Rocket are only teams to have base of operation on two regions)

 

[WingsofBliss]

I do not think team rocket is that smart. I doubt they would come up with a plan like that.

If they aren't that smart, then please, elaborate on how they were able to set up shop in the Aether Foundation HQ in the first place.

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

If they aren't that smart, then please, elaborate on how they were able to set up shop in the Aether Foundation HQ in the first place.

I think it's already too late for him to answer that question now that he's banned again (and probably get unbanned by the time USUM already comes out).

 

[janejane6178]

Omg I wanna see TR already <3

 

[ruxy_100]

On the topic of chasing legendaries, I would prefer that they didn't. We've seen that so much already in the last few games.

I want to see an evil team that is formidable in their own right. And one that isn't morally ambiguous where their motives are understandable, but misguided (such as wanting to make the world a better place... by going to extremes).

I want a powerful, wealthy evil team that wants nothing more than to seek more power and wealth, and cause chaos. One that is a force to be reckoned with, without needing a legendary at their side.

Obviously we won't get this in USUM, but for future games I would actually like it for the evil team to be so powerful from the get go that it is the protagonist and their allies that need to seek out the legendary in order to stop them. Perhaps a fresh spin on the gym system could be to have 8 people hidden around the region who have sworn to protect the location of the legendary - and we need to seek them out and win a battle against them in order to receive a piece of a map or a cryptic clue leading to the legendary's location (taking the role of gym badges). In the end the protagonist tracks down the legendary, captures it, and then rides it into battle against the evil team.

Sorry, I got sidetracked a bit there haha. But long story short, I agree that Team Rocket being a formidable force in their own right, without the need for them to hunt a legendary, would be best for this game.

 

[WingsofBliss]

Ok... so I tried posting this on my blog, but couldn't because I don't quite have access to it just yet. But I came up with a theory... what if Necrozma was actually created by this supposed Rainbow Rocket?

Spoiler:

I'm going to start off with a few points about Necrozma, the Legendary Pokemon that's central to the plot of USUM:

- It's reminiscent of the Ultra Beasts according to the in-game Pokedex entry of Sun and Moon, and looks similar to Ultra Beast in that it doesn't look like it originated from Poke-Earth... but, it's classified as a Pokemon. For Necrozma, it's also stated in the Pokedex that it's "thought to have come from another world". Since it's technically a Pokemon and not an Ultra Beast, is it possible that it didn't originate from Ultra Space? If so, where did it come from? Interestingly, the Ultra Beasts look alien, while Necrozma almost looks man-made...

- All the trailers and official website info seem to advertise it as an evil threat, perhaps making it the first Pokemon that's actually "evil". It's often described as stealing light from other worlds, and the recent trailer that was released just today is titled "Strange Evil Trailer".

- I couldn't help but notice a few things about Necrozma that stuck out to me as reminders of past games:

• Its crystalline body and its ability to shoot rainbow-colored lasers by absorbing light and converting it to energy reminded me of two structures in Kalos that operate in a similar manner: the Anistar Sundial and the Ultimate Weapon. The Anistar Sundial is much more similar in that it absorbs sunlight and it's said to come from space some 3,000 years prior to XY. In ORAS, this special type of energy associated with the Mega Stones, Ultimate Weapon, and most likely the Anistar Sundial, is revealed to be Infinite Energy. This Infinite Energy consistently has a rainbow-colored aura associated with it in XY and in ORAS. Necrozma seems to have this color scheme as well, with the colored triangle symbol on its two Forms' faces, as well as the lasers and various lights it emits in artworks such as in the TCG. Could the Anistar Sundial and Necrozma have come from the same world, or is Necrozma made out of the same exact crystalline material as the Sundial(and to a lesser extent, the Ultimate Weapon as well)?
  
  
• Another thing is how Necrozma absorbs Solgaleo and Lunala; as soon as these Forms were revealed, most everybody drew the conclusion that they were fusions similar to the Kyurem fusions simply because Colress made a cameo, and they just happened to be similar.

Now I'm going to move onto some things about the Rainbow Rocket part of the theory. According to some rumors/leaks/whatever, somebody in Rainbow Rocket gathers up all the past evil team bosses from previous games and forms a stronger, newer version of Team Rocket. This team would consist of the usual grunts, plus Admins such as Giovanni, Maxie, Archie(if this were to actually happen, almost guaranteed Maxie and Archie will be version-exclusives), Cyrus, Ghetsis, Lysandre, Guzma, and Lusamine.

Now why on Zygarde's green Poke-Earth would all of these guys team up? It makes no sense. As much as I'm super-excited about the possibility of this being true, it still makes no sense. But then it hit me... Necrozma has traits that relate to some aspects of each of the evil teams, except for Team Skull. I'm gonna break it down for y'all:

- Giovanni: Possible callback to how the anime version of Team Rocket created Mewtwo, another Legendary Pokemon with immense power.

- Maxi/Archie: Project AZOTH and the research on Infinite Energy(which was technically stolen from Devon Corp, but still).

- Cyrus: This is an interesting one. Remember in Necrozma's Pokedex entry where it says it has visited Alola in ancient times? Team Galactic dealt with research into time and space manipulation; if Necrozma can travel through Ultra Space and create Ultra Wormholes, what's to say that it can't travel through time as well?

- Ghetsis: Remember how people were freaking out over Colress appearing in SM and then the Necrozma fusion-forms were revealed? Ghetsis could have implemented a replica of the DNA Splicer technology into Necrozma to allow it to fuse with other powerful Pokemon.

- Lysandre: Could have used the crystalline materials gathered from the Ultimate Weapon or Anistar Sundial(or both) to create Nezcroma's body.

- Lusamine: I got a mini-theory with this one. In the leaks, it's mentioned that Lusamine is actually kidnapped by Rainbow Rocket. It's also widely speculated and slightly hinted at Lusamine not being the main antagonist like she was in SM. Also, the picture that was leaked a few days ago suggests that Team Rocket/Rainbow Rocket do take over the Aether Foundation HQ. Aether created Type: Null/Silvally, so I think Giovanni forces Lusamine to help construct Necrozma by threatening to harm her children, Lillie and Gladion. Because he's a jerkwad like that.

- Guzma: Sorry son, you get nothin'.

In short: In-game Giovanni wants to create an unstoppable Pokemon to use as a weapon, and since his current resources don't allow it, he decides to enlist others and their expertise to create it.

I apologize in advance, this theory most likely has a butt-ton of holes in it...

 

[Hikamaru]

Omg I wanna see TR already <3

Well, we have this picture of the Rocket grunts that was posted on Twitter.

Do you think they look awesome?

 

[WingsofBliss]

Do you think they look awesome?

Welp, this image has more rainbows on it, on their logo. It was kinda hard to make out on Lusamine's mansion in the leaked picture, to me anyways. I wonder just how much of the RR portion of the Chinese Riddler thing was right. JEEZE WHY ISN'T IT THURSDAY ALREADY.

 

[colours]

that's some snazzy R logos on their shirt.

 

[janejane6178]

Well, we have this picture of the Rocket grunts that was posted on Twitter.

Do you think they look awesome?

OMGGGGGG <3333
Are there any other pics??