Teen Pregnancy

[Shining Arcanine]

It is not a good idea to shelter kids to be socially retarded and then thrust them out into the real world where they'll be eaten alive by society.

What is the real world? Do you have any concept of the fact that reality is merely a theory? You postulated it when you decided that despite your inability to verify that the information about the world that you perceive through your five senses is real and true, you would act as if it were anyway, and respond to it. That turns any concept you have of a real world upside down, does it not?

The reason you say, do and think the things you do is because rather than giving priority to what is right, you give priority to what appears good for you, which in this case is what is easier to do. If everyone did what is easier to do, there would have been no 13 Colonies. If everyone did what happened to be easier to do, there would have been no American Revolution. If everyone did what is easier to do, we would still have Slavery. If everyone did what is easier to do, we would still have Eugenics. The point I am trying to make is, simply because something is not easy, does not mean that it should not be done. A significant portion of society has that attitude, and if they would just drop it, they would find that the only reason that it was true was because they thought it was true, and that their thinking that it was true caused actions that made it true.

Let us transcend those defense mechanisms caused by subconscious thoughts and ideas that you find uncomfortable and create an awareness of those thoughts and ideas in the conscious. It is obvious that you are projecting, and until you realize that those thoughts and ideas are in your subconscious, you will not be able to correct them and until you correct them, you shall continue to project them. If you were raised without any knowledge of sex until your parents decided you should have it, you would not have the same friends, you would not attend the same places and you would think differently. You say that if you had no knowledge of sex until your parents decided you should have it, you would not survive where you are now, but you would not be where you are now. You would be elsewhere, living a much better life, and I do not mean that as in a house or a school, but in what you do in your time. I realize that the school aspect would make things difficult (unless you were being home schooled) but that is not cause to live a corrupt life in need of correction, but rather that is cause to correct a corrupt government in need of correction.

The school system was never intended for what it does now, rather it was intended to teach people basic thought and communication. For this purpose, it originally taught Math and English. The addition of History and Science complemented this, but everything else that has been added goes far above and beyond the purpose of education (or at least of compulsory education; through voluntary education one can also add a specialization in society that compulsory education cannot) and all attempts to integrate such additions have caused the problems we see today and as far the topic is concerned, the problem with school. Society can either fix things elevating itself far beyond what anyone can foresage, or take the easy route and spiral downward toward decline and despair. It is as simple as that.

 

[Kalylia]

Pardon my explosion earlier. It just frustrates me when people make assumtions about Teen Pregnancy without taking into consideration all areas that could possibly cause pregnancy. I believe the point to be an important one. Again, you have my apologies for attempting to maintain a balanced discussion in this thread, considering it was never specified whether the pregnancy discussion would cover planned or unplanned pregnancies.

As for the current topic of sex ed, it is VITAL! You can't keep all sexual knowledge away from people under the age of 18. That's just INSANE. It's impossible. Sex is everywhere nowadays, and kids younger than me know more about it than I do. Sex Ed is the one thing keeping most of those kids safe. Since it IS impossible to keep all sexual knowledge away from small kids, it's best to educate them on how to have safe sex.

Even if we could keep knowledge away from kids under the age of 18, do you have any idea what would happen when they turn 18? There would be so much sex and so many pregnancies because there would be NO KNOWLEDGE of birth control. Thus, I believe sex ed should remain a vital part of life.

 

[Shining Arcanine]

Pardon my explosion earlier. It just frustrates me when people make assumtions about Teen Pregnancy without taking into consideration all areas that could possibly cause pregnancy. I believe the point to be an important one. Again, you have my apologies for attempting to maintain a balanced discussion in this thread, considering it was never specified whether the pregnancy discussion would cover planned or unplanned pregnancies.

As for the current topic of sex ed, it is VITAL! You can't keep all sexual knowledge away from people under the age of 18. That's just INSANE. It's impossible. Sex is everywhere nowadays, and kids younger than me know more about it than I do. Sex Ed is the one thing keeping most of those kids safe. Since it IS impossible to keep all sexual knowledge away from small kids, it's best to educate them on how to have safe sex.

Even if we could keep knowledge away from kids under the age of 18, do you have any idea what would happen when they turn 18? There would be so much sex and so many pregnancies because there would be NO KNOWLEDGE of birth control. Thus, I believe sex ed should remain a vital part of life.

Be careful, you are referencing an act that degrades the very thing that made you and if that is degraded, you are of no more worth than a mass produced consumer product.

By the way, no one said anything concerning the vitality of sex in life. And to be quite honest, it is not. There are millions of people that go through life without having sex. It never was a vital part of life for them and it is not a vital part of life for you. However, you can make it an important aspect of your life by falling in love with and marrying a person that complements you, something that I plan to do myself.

 

[Kura]

If teenagers cannot control themselves, then parents should. It is not the education system's job to be people's parents, that is the job of parents. Therefore parents need to crack down and refuse to allow their children out of their supervision (i.e. there will be no time out of the house other than for classes) until they leave for college. It worked rather well with me, although I never had much of an interest in the girls I am in contact with anyway; all they have on their minds is sex.

The fact is, nowadays, many parent's don't give a crap what their kids do. It also explains why they need to dumb-down the education system for the newer generation (1990 or later)

It's ridiculous.

 

[Shining Arcanine]

Try early to mid-1900s and later. The education system has been this way since they started adding more than the basic math, english, science and history classes. I do not know when that happened but I know that lunch got thrown into the curriculum in the 1960s so that the curriculum could be extended when what they needed to do was focus on the basics that the education system was created to improve. Getting back to my original "people do what appears to be good for them" comment, the labor unions thought that adding additional classes would increase their revenues, which appears to them to be good for them, so they went about getting these other classes in under the premise that "it will be good for them [the children]" while completely ignoring how such classes assume that they [the children] already have the basic skills that the school system was created to provide and eliminating their [the children's] rights as american citizens.

If labor unions had never been in the education system, many of these problems would not have happened, as the education system would be putting those it was created to help before all else, rather than union revenues before all else. If this was not the case, school districts that receive huge sums of money per child and pay some of the largest salaries of any employer in the country would not be asking parents to pay for the loss of income they suffer when students are out sick as they are paid per day attendence rather than per year. Apparently, bringing in money is a bigger priority for the education system than the health and well being of those it was created to help.

 

[Kura]

Try early to mid-1900s and later. The education system has been this way since they started adding more than the basic math, english, science and history classes. I do not know when that happened but I know that lunch got thrown into the curriculum in the 1960s so that the curriculum could be extended when what they needed to do was focus on the basics that the education system was created to improve. Getting back to my original "people do what appears to be good for them" comment, the labor unions thought that adding additional classes would increase their revenues, which appears to them to be good for them, so they went about getting these other classes in under the premise that "it will be good for them [the children]" while completely ignoring how such classes assume that they [the children] already have the basic skills that the school system was created to provide and eliminating their [the children's] rights as american citizens.

If labor unions had never been in the education system, many of these problems would not have happened, as the education system would be putting those it was created to help before all else, rather than union revenues before all else. If this was not the case, school districts that receive huge sums of money per child and pay some of the largest salaries of any employer in the country would not be asking parents to pay for the loss of income they suffer when students are out sick as they are paid per day attendence rather than per year. Apparently, bringing in money is a bigger priority for the education system than the health and well being of those it was created to help.

.. Basic? ._. Well not around here. My mom says that the education system is harder than what it used to be.. and now they're simplifying it even less than what it used to be ._.;;~

And btw, this is about teen pregnancy~ X3 so please try to relate it to that~

._. But yeah~ So many kids don't care about school anymore, and rather just chat on their cellphones all day >>;~

How productive!! <-- (sarcasm)

 

[Drifblim]

Ah, but it is very important, my dear. It's an issue in teaching others about sex and childbirth that seems to help the teen pregnancy rate rise. I say we should have those classes even if they subscribe to a religion that discourages it; in no time they'll be chickening out of having a baby at their age.

 

[Shining Arcanine]

.. Basic? ._. Well not around here. My mom says that the education system is harder than what it used to be.. and now they're simplifying it even less than what it used to be ._.;;~

And btw, this is about teen pregnancy~ X3 so please try to relate it to that~

._. But yeah~ So many kids don't care about school anymore, and rather just chat on their cellphones all day >>;~

How productive!! <-- (sarcasm)

I am saying that the school system has helped to facilitate this, which does relate.

Ah, but it is very important, my dear. It's an issue in teaching others about sex and childbirth that seems to help the teen pregnancy rate rise. I say we should have those classes even if they subscribe to a religion that discourages it; in no time they'll be chickening out of having a baby at their age.

The school system was never designed to go beyond the basic skills people need to think and communicate, and it should focus on them and nothing but them. Sexual education is a responsibility of parenthood, and the fact that there are a few lousy parents should not ruin it for everyone else.

You know, the school system in some parts of the United States is taking over all of the responsibilities of parenthood. In Washington D.C., people are actually moving into their schools to live, eating their schools' choice of meals three times a day and living by rules set exclusively by their school. Parents have been eliminated from the equation almost entirely unless it is vacation time when the children get to go home. It will not be too long now until children are forcibly taken from their parents after birth to be nurtured into society by the school system, where the school system will control everything from ages 0 to 18. The school system would create a functional marxist society within the United States where parents, siblings and family values are nothing but a thing of the past. Is this really what you want? Unless there is a set purpose to what the school system is to accomplish that is constant throughout time, this is what will happen. We have been moving to it ever since FDR changed the Democratic Party Platform to Socialism in 1932.

 

[Firebolt5]

I appriciate YoMama for supply us with those answers. That was a random survey and he got involved in his community. I respect people like that. :)

 

[Dawson]

I appriciate YoMama for supply us with those answers. That was a random survey and he got involved in his community. I respect people like that. :)

You're YoMama, aren't you? Same posting style, posting in exactly the same places, same spelling and grammar errors. Probably even the same IP too. We all know YoMama was lying, so don't create a new account to try to back yourself up, YoMama, that's lame, even for you.

 

[Kura]

You're YoMama, aren't you? Same posting style, posting in exactly the same places, same spelling and grammar errors. Probably even the same IP too. We all know YoMama was lying, so don't create a new account to try to back yourself up, YoMama, that's lame, even for you.

Dawson. Don't flamebait. If you think it's the same person, PM a moderator..

And yeah, it is.
*just checked IPs*
And also.. I don't know of someone in their right mind who would applaud another person for providing fake information.

This is a discussion, YoMama; not a popularity contest.

 

[Drifblim]

Well, chaps, after an IP probe, they are one and the same.

 

[Lord Mike]

Man, did my friend get on here and make his own account? I told him not to do that.

I'm sorry. I should've had control over him. :(

 

[Allstories]

Ahahahaha, nice try, dude. I'm afraid you'll find we're not all as naive as you think. You'd certainly be none too bright to leave your computer unattended long enough for a friend to make an account, find an avatar, create a signature, and post in this thread without you even realizing it.

 

[Lord Mike]

I let him create an account and help him set it up, and then he started posting like crazy. I told him to stop, but he kept doing it. Allstories, I know what I'm talking about and you don't know me.

 

[Allstories]

...In your previous post you just implied that you were unaware that he had actually created one. If you're going to lie, at least keep your stories straight.

 

[*~Ashley~*]

Okay guys, this thread is supposed to be about teenage pregnancy, not YoMama's two accounts. If you guys seriously can't get this back on topic and/or can't stop arguing with one another, I'll have no choice but to close this, alright?

 

[Lord Mike]

Okay guys, this thread is supposed to be about teenage pregnancy, not YoMama's two accounts. If you guys seriously can't get this back on topic and/or can't stop arguing with one another, I'll have no choice but to close this, alright?

I'm sorry about that. My friend's using his account on his own computer now. :)

A new couple just got pregnant in our neighborhood. They're both 14 years old. That's pretty young if you ask me. :\

 

[Drifblim]

Both fourteen? Meh....To quote a fic I read, 'Kids, starting earlier these days'.

I wonder how that'll go down with the school system. :/

 

[Zero ex]

Last month i read in shoutwire that, there was a 11 year old mother in england(I think it was there). Her mother said she was proud that she keep the baby.

These days... lol they only want ... lol