The 3DS Information/Discussion Thread

[Munch Dog]

It's more about the games that are being released for it that makes it seem worth the price tag for me. The 3D is kind of like a nice bonus.

 

[Mew~]

:::EDIT:::
One thing I have just seen is the games for the 3DS are £39.99. THAT IS THE SAME PRICE AS A PS3 or a 360 game.
Rip off!​

Well the prices may go down closer to the release date, I don't really think the proper retail prices have been decided yet. The same thing happened with the DS.

If not, im sure games are probably worth that much, this is a new console afterall.

 

[Captain Fabio]

Well the prices may go down closer to the release date, I don't really think the proper retail prices have been decided yet. The same thing happened with the DS.

If not, im sure games are probably worth that much, this is a new console afterall.

I have seen many new consoles come out and the prices they forecast for the games rarely change.
It is because it is the first 3D console, so that is why the prices are jacked up, IMO.​

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[Sydian]

I don't think $250 is that bad, when you see all the crap it comes with, like the 2GB memory card, and all the preinstalled software. I think that is a good price for the technology, as well. When you think about it, the Wii was almost $500 at the initial release.

Honeycakes, the Wii was not $500 at release. $250 is kind of a big deal, considering the Wii and 360 can be bought cheaper than that (not sure about PS3). This is only a handheld system.

 

[Luck]

But it CAN be~ Developers can be very creative, ya know. c: And that's odd, I heard it was ridiculously amazing. Plus, you really aren't supposed to move it off to the side. :o Also, the joystick is on there. That is always an improvement. XD

Maybe so, but I'd like to see how projection can affect gameplay.

...Noooo, but I have been hearing it is really cool! I can take it on that~

And I've heard it was unimpressive, for what it's supposed to be focused on.

I don't think $250 is that bad, when you see all the crap it comes with, like the 2GB memory card, and all the preinstalled software. I think that is a good price for the technology, as well. When you think about it, the Wii was almost $500 at the initial release.

The Wii was made out of cheap hardware. I'm sure that Nintendo has gotten a profit out of the Wii since day one. 2GB isn't really that much, I can get a 16GB memory stick for $20, and that'll last me much longer.

And no, the Wii isn't as strong as the 360 or PS3 either.

 

[Sydian]

Also want to mention that 3D has been around for decades, so I don't see the big "it's an innovation!" ranting deal. The Virtual Boy beat the 3DS to 3D handheld gaming (yes, it failed miserably, but still, it was first) so that cuts that thought as well.

And no, the Wii isn't just as strong as the 360 or PS3 either.

I lol'd. Wrong thread, bby. ;) You know that<3

 

[Sydian]

Well, didn't they have an extremely high price around launch, then bring it down gradually over time?

The Wii was priced at $249.99 at release in the US. So the 3DS is essentially at the price of a major console, which is pretty ridiculous. It's a handheld. Although it has 3D and all this other stuff (including the ~fabulous~ region lock), it shouldn't have to scale the price ladder like this, and can you imagine its upgrades? Those prices will be even more outrageous.

 

[インフェルノの津波]

I really hope this i the last of the DS line, I have no more money you know.

If they make an upgrade, they'd better make it flipping awesome, like the 3DSX or whatever and have even more 3D graphics, be able to pay and download movies, and have phone capabilities.

Also YouTube.

 

[The 100 Mega Shock]

The only thing we have to compare the 3DS against at the moment are the prices of 5 year old home consoles which don't necessitate higher prices thanks to shoving hardware into portable devices. Isn't this pretty much the price point that the PSP launched at?

What about the GBA Wireless adapter? Couldn't the GBA Mode on the DS systems be modified when GBA games are ran to match that of the Wireless Adapter?

The behaviour of the ARM7 processor is very different between GBA and DS modes. It's a far easier task just to shut everything out and run the ARM7 in GBA-compatability mode than to try and hack in functionality with the DS's hardware for a handful of GBA games. This is also why the X and Y buttons cannot be mapped in GBA mode. Besides, the DS's ARM7 is downclocked to match the speed of the ARM7 that was in the GBA so there's no extra power left.

 

[Sydian]

I really hope this i the last of the DS line, I have no more money you know.

If they make an upgrade, they'd better make it flipping awesome, like the 3DSX or whatever and have even more 3D graphics, be able to pay and download movies, and have phone capabilities.

Also YouTube.

It should also include the ability to bring back the dead and walk on water.

 

[Gummy]

Just preordered mine today (aqua, hell yeah). The $250 price tag doesn't bother me that much. I don't really care if it has the same price of a console, because with the games set to come out for it I expect to have the same level of fun. The PSP launched at this price marketing itself as a portable to match console graphics, along with being the ultimate media center-- goals I personally do not think it accomplished until its later years. Today we live in a different economy, with better technology, so I find no problem with this price. I can't wait to see how people when react when Sony announces the "PSP2"'s price, which they've been telling devs will almost match the PS3 in power and graphical definition.

I do think Nintendo will purposefully cause a shortage at least until the Christmas season. Most parents will not shell out this kind of money in the middle of the year unless for birthdays.

 

[Mew~]

The Wii was priced at $249.99 at release in the US. So the 3DS is essentially at the price of a major console, which is pretty ridiculous. It's a handheld. Although it has 3D and all this other stuff (including the ~fabulous~ region lock), it shouldn't have to scale the price ladder like this, and can you imagine its upgrades? Those prices will be even more outrageous.

It depends on what you think major means. That is, im sure you meant Home console. But honestly. But come on now, I don't see what's wrong with comparing it to a home console. This isn't just a handheld, considering all it's features and right now probably the best graphics for a handheld to date. It is also the first 3D gaming console. (if you don't count the virtual boy).
It also has all the crap like the docking system, sd card etc..

Also, you americans should be happy. We in the UK have to pay £70 more money than what it's worth in North america, £230, which just about is $368, $118 more than you guys. :(

Also, I will be getting it on the Launch day I already have the money, I just have to not spend it. xD
Sadly, it's on a friday so I might have to go after school.

Here's a good topic, what colour are you guys gonna get?
Cosmo Black or Aqua Blue

 

[Captain Fabio]

It depends on what you think major means. That is, im sure you meant Home console. But honestly. But come on now, I don't see what's wrong with comparing it to a home console. This isn't just a handheld, considering all it's features and right now probably the best graphics for a handheld to date. It is also the first 3D gaming console. (if you don't count the virtual boy).
It also has all the crap like the docking system, sd card etc..

Well, if it has a major price tag like that, then you would expect it to be a home entertainment system as well. But I highly doubt the 3DS can do that, unlike the PS3 and the 360. (I don't count the Wii against them too because it just falls short every time.)

And yes, I live in the UK and we do have to pay more, all the more reason for the point to be proven that it is TOO expensive, as they are trying to push it too much towards being the best thing ever so you have to spend more money on a glorified handheld.

I just don't understand why they have made it SO expensive. And don't say it is because it is the first 3D console, because it isn't. Most people will just not remember the Virtual Boy.​

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[The 100 Mega Shock]

The power needed for decent 3D graphics on the 3DS is a significant jump - you're essentially rendering two scenes at once and playing them at the same time. On the few PS3 games we've seen with 3D support they've had to make big compromises to achieve it - Gran Turismo 5 goes from 60fps to 30fps and scales back on the graphical quality.

 

[Mew~]

GAME updated the website with pictures of the Game packaging/covers:

They just moved the logo on the other side xD It might be a different shape of something. (like wider or taller)

 

[Gummy]

GAME updated the website with pictures of the Game packaging/covers:

They just moved the logo on the other side xD It might be a different shape of something. (like wider or taller)

I read somewhere that the logo was moved because they didn't want parents confusing these for DS games, as the cartridges will look similar to DS games but won't work on the system.

 

[Captain Fabio]

That would be a burn, wouldn't it.
You get a new shiny 3DS and your parents make the mistake of buying a normal DS game. XD

I would have thought they would have changed the boxing or something maybe. They will still look the same from the side...​

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[Åzurε]

Pre-ordered~ I intend to get a blue one, just because I don't want glossy black.

I'm okay with the price, honestly. Speaking from the USA. It would be nice if it was less, but it's not. It's honestly not a SUPER BIG DEAL like it's made out to be, and everybody stole everything from everybody else, but the combination of the features it has, and the first-party intellectual property, and potential for quality titles make it worth it in my mind. Extra-moreso if they can add 3D video recording to that.

So neener neener to the haters, I have a reasonable explanation for paying the Outrageous Price of Two-Hundred Ninety-Nine American Dollars. Can't say anything about Europe, however.

I'm still waiting on pins and needles for Paper Mario info. ^_^

 

[razzbat]

Well, if it has a major price tag like that, then you would expect it to be a home entertainment system as well. But I highly doubt the 3DS can do that, unlike the PS3 and the 360. (I don't count the Wii against them too because it just falls short every time.)

And yes, I live in the UK and we do have to pay more, all the more reason for the point to be proven that it is TOO expensive, as they are trying to push it too much towards being the best thing ever so you have to spend more money on a glorified handheld.

I just don't understand why they have made it SO expensive. And don't say it is because it is the first 3D console, because it isn't. Most people will just not remember the Virtual Boy.​

virtual boy looked like a brick with legs and had a library of 22 games that all looked half done. it was also sold as US$180 on release, which is alot for that time.
the 3ds is the first 8th gen console on the market, with proper 3d that doesn't require glasses, has specs that almost matches the wiis power, and a library that pretty much starts off with 30 games on release.
alot of money would have gone into producing it, i can't imagine those 3d screens to be easy to make, so at US$250 it's pretty reasonable. in fact i get the feeling that they were getting more of a profit with the wii than they would with the 3ds.
if you think it's too expensive then don't buy it. if the sales aren't good enough, then there may be a price drop in a year or so. But seeing the amount of people wanting to get their hands on it as soon as they can, it will be a hit and many people will buy it, meaning a price drop won't come for ages.
Theres really no use in complaining, the only thing you achieve is looking like a bit of a whinge.

What games do people hope to see on the 3ds, that hasn't been announced yet?

i can think of a few off the top of my head...
a super smash bros
dissidia
katamari - that would be amazing
pokemon - well who doesn't XD
mother - a remake or a sequel, idrc

 

[~Ryukaa]

3DS. 3DS.
<_>
Why Nintendo, whhhhhy? My poor wallet. D:
I was unsure about getting this, because I only just BOUGHT A DSi IN 2009. I was expecting at least 5 years with it. -it was an upgrade after 4 years with a broken DSP. which didn't work.-
After I saw the Ace Attorney VS Professor Layton trailer, I was sold.
Which is a bad thing. Now I'm thinking of trading in my DSi for it, since I'm low on money. Trading games/consoles in really irks me. :I
Well, as long as the NEXT GENERATION doesn't come out the next month next year or 4. I'm alright. It's weird. I'm really hyped about the 3DS, but at the same time, I really DON'T want it to come out.

What games do people hope to see on the 3ds, that hasn't been announced yet?
Golden Sun.
Mother 1+2+3
Gyakuten Saiban 5
Final Fantasy V+VI remake.