The Best Overall Team (Unofficial)

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Duh your Gyarados sweeped my team. I think having Gyarados with Waterfall as physical sweeper sounds like a good plan to me. And we COULD give Blissey ice Beam, I guess.
 
I didn't remember us battling. I say that cause I see on other threads, some people advertise Aqua Tail.

I don't think we should rely on Blissey as our soul Ice Beamer.
 
I didn't remember us battling. I say that cause I see on other threads, some people advertise Aqua Tail.

I don't think we should rely on Blissey as our soul Ice Beamer.

Aqua Tail sucks, 10 less accuracy for 10 more power ? not worth it IMO.

Waterfall also has a 30% flinch rate.


we wont necesarry need something with Ice Beam, why not a HP Ice Gengar or something ?
 
That is plausible if we dont go for Hypnosis, because Gengar NEEDS Shadow Ball and Focus Blast, plus Thinderbolt/Energy Ball for me are just good to have. So HP Ice could work. A BoltHPicer doesnt roll off the tongue as well, but it would work.
 
We dont NEED two special walls, we have blissey. and thats ALL special wall we need. And I am adding this MUCh later on in the day, but if we need ice moves, Dragonite in for Ice Punch Weavile.
 
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Dont underestimate the sweeping abilities of Milotic. Despite Milotic having an awesome base 125 base Special Defense she is used more of a physical scratch post against opposing dragons types.

We should not rely on Blissey for Beaming dragons back to the Ice Age. Unless she has Clam Mind to back it up, it will be a pitiful offense.

Opponent sends in Garchomp. We sendi n Blissey to counter. >.<

The problem with HP Ice is it is potent but not strong enough. Dragonite can definately live though one.

So do we want Speed or sturdiness?
 
I'm sorry, what is Speed/Sturdiness? Starmie or Gengar? I still say sweeping Starmie. I like her being immune to status.
 
YES! Weavile/Gengar is a great combo, and can knock a few heads, Go Weavile, something with a fighting move, wait a sec, GENGAR is HERE! Immunities for Gengar (and overall good set and stats), Weavile for his attack and Ice Punch.
 
Jolteon@Life Orb/Leftovers
Modest~252 Speed/special attack
Thunderbolt
Substitute
Baton Pass
Agility

Donphan@Leftovers
Impish~252 Defense/HP
Earthquake
Ice Shard
Rapid Spin
Stealth Rock

Blissey@Leftovers
Bold~252 Defense/200 HP/58 Special Attack
Ice Beam
Softboiled
Aromatherapy
Thunderwave/Thunderbolt

Bronzong(no Idea)

Dragonite@Leftovers
Adamant~252 Attack/200 Speed/58 HP
DD
Outrage
Earthquake
Roost/Flamethrower

Starmie@Choice Scarf/Specs(I know what you're thinking, but it works)
Modest/Timid~252 speed/Special Attack
Surf
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Psychic
 
If Blissey is to Boltbeam she needs Calm Mind. Then again we want Aromatherapy. So I came up with this moveset.

Blissey@Leftovers
Bold ( + Def, -Atk)
Natural Cure/Serene Grace
252 Def / 252 HP / 5 Sp. Atk
-Aromatherapy
-Softboiled
-Charge Beam
-Ice Beam

Charge Beam has a very high chance of boosting her special attack. It is guaranteed if we have Serene Grace as an ability. Yet I like Natural Cure.

@Sims

Speed was Starmie and studiness is Milotic.
 
Never. No Boltbeaming Blissey. Lets stick with plain regular Blissey. If its between Star & Milo, Star.
 
I agree with you there. And I guess Starmie is better for the team... Although I dont like having 2 psychic types, ok my team has 2, and 2 rock, but still... And Dragonite is a perfect sweeper for the team, and less weaks then Weavile.
 
Jolteon? What? Now we're missing one more sweeper.
 
Jolteon can kind of sweep, and having a BP is a good thing for the team anyways. If you BP an agility out to like Starmie, its pretty much the fastest non-uber possible. Besides stoopid Ninjask.
 
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