The "clan" Organization thread V.4

[World King]

I'll be sure to keep that in mind, Hammer.

Anyone here know how to make good banners, or know someone who can? REally need one done...

 

[Forci Stikane]

I agree with this. Rudeness is unspeakably ugly to me, and arrogance isn't far behind it. The fact is, we all start somewhere. Before I got into competitive battling, I used to have a Magneton with Secret Power. That says something, eh?

The Clan isn't a place where the best of the best reside. If you want a place where arrogant elites hang out, go to Smogon (not saying anything bad about Smogon, since I go there myself from time to time, but a majority of the people have a "better than you" aura).

That said, if someone in the Clan comes across a so called "noob", don't say "You can't be in the Clan". Instead, say, "You're not ready for the Clan because..." and explain the faults in their technique. Let them learn from you, and tell them to try again. As the old saying goes, practice makes perfect, and Pokemon battling is no different. I once got a 39 on a Chemistry exam; big stupid mistakes on my part (for example, I cubed 2.22 and got something like 3.48; I still have no idea what the hell I did XD). But my teacher didn't say, "You're a failure, drop this course, pick a new major." instead, he just corrected me, and I refined my technique.

My point being, there are no bad battlers; there can be inexperienced battlers, but no "bad" battlers. The average lifespan of a healthy human is about 80-90 years in this day and age, and I'm sure that's enough time to get better at battling.

*nod* I still have proof of before I battled other people like this. *used to use Fly a lot*

...Um......I thought that's what the recruiters were already doing...at least, as far as I noticed.

Hey guys...i have an AR, so whenever you need assistance, im your man.

......That isn't exactly something to just blurt out like that...

 

[Nightofshadow]

I agree with this. Rudeness is unspeakably ugly to me, and arrogance isn't far behind it. The fact is, we all start somewhere. Before I got into competitive battling, I used to have a Magneton with Secret Power. That says something, eh?

The Clan isn't a place where the best of the best reside. If you want a place where arrogant elites hang out, go to Smogon (not saying anything bad about Smogon, since I go there myself from time to time, but a majority of the people have a "better than you" aura).

That said, if someone in the Clan comes across a so called "noob", don't say "You can't be in the Clan". Instead, say, "You're not ready for the Clan because..." and explain the faults in their technique. Let them learn from you, and tell them to try again. As the old saying goes, practice makes perfect, and Pokemon battling is no different. I once got a 39 on a Chemistry exam; big stupid mistakes on my part (for example, I cubed 2.22 and got something like 3.48; I still have no idea what the hell I did XD). But my teacher didn't say, "You're a failure, drop this course, pick a new major." instead, he just corrected me, and I refined my technique.

My point being, there are no bad battlers; there can be inexperienced battlers, but no "bad" battlers. The average lifespan of a healthy human is about 80-90 years in this day and age, and I'm sure that's enough time to get better at battling.

All this aside, now that NoS is back, I would like to retain my position in the Clan.
Of course, if it's alright with you, Night.

Of course richard! You know you can keep your spot! <3

I lost to cloud. Does that mean I am not qualified for the clan?

Your in regardless of what the outcome is. He can post about what problems you had and we can work on them from there.

Suggestive post....

I HIGHLY suggest changing your post right away.

This has changed so much. I mean COME ON! I am so ticked right now this clan is almost at its end. I.........I will think about going away from the clan. But I can't deal with this. I wish Okami was back.

If leaving is what you want to do then i wish you the best of luck.

 

[Mike Ukiuki]

hm.............................I know we were all noobs once but...........I WISH OKAMI WAS BACK! NoS has there ever been a clan war you have been in.

Well noobs, I never felt like one I had lv 100's cool pokemon(non ev trained). I never felt like a noob

 

[Richard Lynch]

hm.............................I know we were all noobs once but...........I WISH OKAMI WAS BACK! NoS has there ever been a clan war you have been in.

Hmmm... let's not make this into a cult kinda thing here. If you think about it in a collective-sort of way, the leader of the "clan" has never really represented it. "Leader" is more of a figurehead; it's an abstract idea. The members are the people who make the "clan" what it is, and the members represent it. The "clan" is really no different now than it was when Okami was leader, now is it? The "clan" is a collective; as in, there is no forefront leader, per se. The members are the "clan", because majority always rules. And as a result of this, members have the right to question the leader. Hell, if everyone agreed with the leader just because (s)he's the leader (or followed for the sake of following), we'd have another Jonestown. The "clan" should be represented by every single member in it in some way, shape or form, not just one person.

What I'm saying is, if you don't like what NoS is doing, don't go begging for Okami back. He'll still be around, so it makes no difference. Instead, let her (NoS) know what you don't like, and we can try to create an environment that everyone enjoys. Afterall, people, Pokemon is a game. And games are intented to let you have fun and escape the dismal world we call life. So let's all quit any complaining we have and have some fun, eh?

 

[Mike Ukiuki]

Ok NoS can there please be testers. It just feels wrong to not test people to get. I know you want noobs to get better but can do that at the clan academy. So can you please change that.

 

[Nightofshadow]

Nope dont recall us every having a clan battle.

As for testers, I already said The current recruiters will do the testing. I dont want people turned away from this clan simply because you think they are "noobs". This type of additude wont be tolerated here.

 

[Jack Surge]

Sorry I haven't been one lately, I've been busy with karate and an essay I'm writing. No, I haven't been playing Brawl...excessively. ^^;

Alright, before I start, I would like to say that the intentions that NoS has for the Clan are by no means wrong, so don't think I'm saying that. I just want to come to Mike's defense and clarify what he's trying to say.

Back when I joined the Clan in January, it was under the leadership of Okami, who, I must say, was a brilliant leader. Now, I made the choice to join because I was under the impression that the Clan was an exclusive group for skilled battlers. At the time, I hadn't been in too many wifi battles, although I knew how to battle competitively. Being rather new to this Wireless Battle Stadium, I thought it would be absolutely incredible if I joined a group of elite battlers that had a great reputation here. And so, I tested against Ooka, but was given permission to join by Okami due to a battle we had last year in October or so. Now that I was in, I was excited that I was in the same group as Ooka, Tortured Soul, Okami, Sabaku no Gaara, and others that are well known battlers here. After Mike, my brother, heard about it, he wanted in, and after I helped him get a decent team, he tested and got in. Now he felt the excitement of being in the same group as these famed battlers. Both of us have seen people that have been denied access, because the way we thought of it then was, well, an exclusive group.

A while after joining, I get promoted to recruiter, which seemed like a cool position. Not a week or so after, we began the Clan War against the Generation. To think that I was chosen as one of the top ten representatives of the Clan was also great. By now I'm starting to feel that I'm one of the better battlers here. Big boosts of self confidence from these positions I'd earned. Mike was chosen later as a replacement for Sabaku no Gaara.

Now that our original leader is back, I'm a bit unclear with the original intentions, Okami's intentions, and the intentions now. For example, I am under the impression that anyone can become a member. Tell me then, what purpose do the recruiters have? If there is no entry test battle, what's the point of being a recruiter?

Again, I do not think the way the Clan is turning is wrong. It is just very different from the Clan I joined in January. Things are a bit of a mess, even with the new thread. I'm really, really hating to say this, but if we continue to be unorganized, I might consider leaving. I don't want to, but things are very different from the Clan I felt honored to be a part of when Okami was in control. :\ Sorry.

 

[Nightofshadow]

What you need to understand is all of these Ranks that exist now, Okami created in my absense and they WERE NOT in my original plan. Im sorry people do not like the way things are going now. But it isnt going to stop me from having things the way they are. If you want to leave, far be it from me to stop you from leaving. Sadly not everyone is going to understand what or why im doing what I am doing. I will try to explain this ONE last time.

The original purpose of this clan was for players who werent so good to be apart of something and learn from the best this website had to offer. Which at the time and even at this point would be Richard steel(lynch now) and Myself. The clan started off great but i had to go for a number of reasons. I was gone for a while and I had someone ask okami to lead this clan for me. Okami agreed to lead this clan in my absense. And he made all of these changes. I am not saying they are bad changes, I am saying they did not fit with ANYTHING I personally had intended. So im not following them as of right now.

I hope this is clear because this is the last time i will be explaining this.

*edit: I am now removing the recruiter status and making it the "Second in command"

 

[BeachBoy]

In my opinion, even though I havn't been through our history, I've been in the same sitchu with NoS on my past website.

And I think now that she is in charge, why dont we just go back to what she originally designed?
I mean come on guys, we're supposed to be having fun, not arguing whats new and whats old.

Let's just let NoS handle the clan as she intends, and I believe things will be great and still great either way.

So well....that is what I think...

 

[super onii chan]

y dont we have 2 parts to the clan, one where its competive battling, battling for rep
the second is where its like a school to help people learn the basic,ev,iv, improve there team ect.

 

[sims796]

This is agrrivating. Not the changes, but the fact that everyone is making tis clan out to be some sort of elitist type of thing. Even during this clan war thing, I am still bitter at the fact that I wasn't chosen (or even considered, as far as I can tell, it was unclear), despite the fact that I was an original member. I am a great battler, anyone can say that, so that wasn't the reason. I am still unsure.

Regardless, I do not mind the original way of the clan (when it was spammed by ignorant jerks--NoS knows what I mean...), making the bad players good, & so forth. It was because of NoS that I'm a great player today, so I will gladly follow her, and defend her if necessary. Or him. It? Heheh...heh...

 

[super onii chan]

This is agrrivating. Not the changes, but the fact that everyone is making tis clan out to be some sort of elitist type of thing. Even during this clan war thing, I am still bitter at the fact that I wasn't chosen (or even considered, as far as I can tell, it was unclear), despite the fact that I was an original member. I am a great battler, anyone can say that, so that wasn't the reason. I am still unsure.

Regardless, I do not mind the original way of the clan (when it was spammed by ignorant jerks--NoS knows what I mean...), making the bad players good, & so forth. It was because of NoS that I'm a great player today, so I will gladly follow her, and defend her if necessary. Or him. It? Heheh...heh...

thats y im sayin lets have 2 parts to this 1 clan on 1 thread... a school and a competive battle thing where we ACTUALLY HAVE TOURNMENTS... im not in this clan... at least not yet because i cant get contact with loto yet but i think that well make everyone. if yall dont like that idea, just compromise so that everyones happy its ur choice to leave but thats not really help wats best for the clan... some ppl are being selfish and not think wat would happen to the clan if everyone disagreed and then just left, there would be no clan so lets just stop this now before it gets out of hand... speakin of hand my hand hurts from writing this

 

[Jack Surge]

Originally posted on the front page
How to Join

This is not an organization for new players, and not for those who cannot behave themselves.

In order to join, you need to show that you have skill in pokemon battling and can act maturely. Contact one of the Clan Leaders in the list below and ask to be admitted. You will then battle under conditions set by that person. If your battle sufficiently proves your skill or if you have previously demonstrated your skill to the tester in other battles, then you will be admitted. Admittance is not necessarily determined by your victory.

Sorry that I'm causing trouble, but this part doesn't make sense. I'm not sure if this was written by Okami or NoS, but these are the requirements for joining the clan. Are we dropping that?

 

[super onii chan]

pkmn breeder jack want to battle to past time

 

[sims796]

thats y im sayin lets have 2 parts to this 1 clan on 1 thread... a school and a competive battle thing where we ACTUALLY HAVE TOURNMENTS... im not in this clan... at least not yet because i cant get contact with loto yet but i think that well make everyone. if yall dont like that idea, just compromise so that everyones happy its ur choice to leave but thats not really help wats best for the clan... some ppl are being selfish and not think wat would happen to the clan if everyone disagreed and then just left, there would be no clan so lets just stop this now before it gets out of hand... speakin of hand my hand hurts from writing this

We aren't babies, and we aren't children. Wait, I meant to say chiildish. This needs to be discussed, not dropped. In order to compromise, we MUST discuss this. Breeder Jack has the right idea. But if a person leaves because you can't stand the "arguing", they should, as they are too immature to stay. If you leave because you disagree with how things are done, that's fine. Leave with my blessings. But don't leave because we are discussing the clan's future. Not everyone will disagree & leave. This isn't a rock band, where we can't agree, and walk away, and there goes the Beatl-I mean, the clan.

If you're not in this clan, don't worry about it for now. Until you join. Just ignore these discussions and worry about battling.

 

[BeachBoy]

I disagree with the post about us dividing, we're a CLAN, not two parts... that just puts us in more of a division and separates us.

As for my part in the discussion I believe we should go how NoS intends when she created this group, we can't just kick down anyone not up to par when we can tutor them and build them into a solid competitive player. If we are a nice people clan, why can't we be nice in bringing up potential and future good players?

So yeah that's what I think, follow her lead.

 

[Forci Stikane]

......Let me just say one thing about this:

If we let everyone freely join in, then that is just asking for people that shouldn't join under normal circumstances (spammers, hackers, etc) to get in freely and bring down the entire clan by association. It also makes becoming a member less special, if anybody can just say "H3Y C4l\l 1 J01N!??" and they get in. Now, don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that we should block people just because their skill doesn't match up to some high standard. Actually, I'm all for helping players who want to be helped. However, the key word here is "want." I honestly think there should at least be a barrier to keep out those people who would generally bring down the group (again, hackers & spammers), and we should at least be cautious of those battlers who are, as Richard so fittingly put it, "inexperienced," yet have no interest in getting better and/or accuse others of cheating simply due to their inexperience (and yes, they're out there).

 

[Xairmo]

It seems to me that the clan is not a group of elite battlers but it does seem that we need limitations as to how many people we could allow in. If we let everyone in it wouldnt be a clan...it would be a community 0.0

 

[Taylor5]

may I join the clan? please.