6th Gen The new and improved Hoenn Dex! Now with 20% more awesomeness :33

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

That's true, but their numbers (for ice and ghost) aren't as low as they used to be anymore so some additions would be nice.
In one of the scans in Pokebeach they show Phoebe alongside Dusknoir. I guess this means the Sinnoh evolutions are being added after all <3

 

[Pinkie-Dawn]

You do realize that Ghost, Ice, and Fairy types are the three rarest types in the games, so it's justified if there is a huge lack of these Pokemon.

You would think Game Freak thought of this before they decided to make a Ghost specialist and an Ice specialist as Hoenn's Elite 4 members at the time.


But now I'm glad we're finally getting an expanded Hoenn dex thanks to Phoebe's Dusknoir. I might probably take back what I said about ORAS being inferior to XY.

 

[Pokefan203302]

That's true, but their numbers (for ice and ghost) aren't as low as they used to be anymore so some additions would be nice.
In one of the scans in Pokebeach they show Phoebe alongside Dusknoir. I guess this means the Sinnoh evolutions are being added after all <3

Yeah, I was going to post it, here's the picture.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

You would think Game Freak thought of this before they decided to make a Ghost specialist and an Ice specialist as Hoenn's Elite 4 members at the time.


But now I'm glad we're finally getting an expanded Hoenn dex thanks to Phoebe's Dusknoir. I might probably take back what I said about ORAS being inferior to XY.

It's funny when one considers Agatha was the first ghost specialist yet GF only made one ghost type line...rendering her more of a poison type trainer than a ghost type trainer.
They messed up the E4 teams of the generation after III too (DP), though they fixed things up with Pt by adding Pokemon of their type.
Goodness...I hope that the teams for these games are like their Emerald teams as they were the most diverse in terms of species for each type, at least Wattson's, Liza & Tate, and Drake's teams were.
I wonder if perhaps Liza and Tate will have Gardevoir and Gallade each...but their the aces of Wally & Diantha and Lucian respectively...

 

[Yato]

Tate & Liza are best known for their Solrock and Lunatone, and given how all the other revealed Leaders are keeping their strongest Pokemon from RS thus far, I'd imagine they'd keep Solrock/Lunatone as well. I can see them getting Gardevoir and Gallade for a rematch battle, though the two wouldn't be their strongest.

It's nice that GF's pretty much confirmed that Gen. IV evos. are making an appearance. I'm also happy for Phoebe; even if no other Ghosts appear in the Dex, she'll likely have a little bit more variety by having a Dusknoir. (I can see her still having one Dusclops.)

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Tate & Liza are best known for their Solrock and Lunatone, and given how all the other revealed Leaders are keeping their strongest Pokemon from RS thus far, I'd imagine they'd keep Solrock/Lunatone as well. I can see them getting Gardevoir and Gallade for a rematch battle, though the two wouldn't be their strongest.

It's nice that GF's pretty much confirmed that Gen. IV evos. are making an appearance. I'm also happy for Phoebe; even if no other Ghosts appear in the Dex, she'll likely have a little bit more variety by having a Dusknoir. (I can see her still having one Dusclops.)

They can still have them, but not as their aces of course. Just as normal Pokémon. In Emerald they were given more psychic types while in RS they only had Solrock and Lunatone.

 

[Treecko]

The Pokedex is literally a GBA. I'm so happy.


And as for the Pokedex update, I can see them adding some of the Fairy types like Flabebe's line and Dedenne (Sylveon is obvious since it's an Eeveelution) , hopefully Gastrodon and Shellos, some more Ghost types like Dusknoir for Phoebe and maybe Mismagius or Rotom. (Rotom-W would go with her tropical/Hawaiian look given it's part Water).

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Wash Rotom loses the Ghost type it had as a normal Rotom so that'll be kind of a curveball to have a Pokémon that's not currently a ghost type.

I'm starting to wonder if perhaps GF won't add any more Pokémon that aren't evolutions to Hoenn dex Pokémon. They didn't give us any sort of clue as to the scope of the additions. With B2W2 irc they said A LOT of 'new' Pokémon would be added to the Unova dex. Could range anywhere between a handful (the evolutions onlu) to a lot (100-150).

 

[Abnegation]

It's highly likely that the Hoenn dex will be expanded to include Pokémon not native to it. We'll most likely see a dex a lot like the one in X&Y, which I'm happy about. It would be nice to see the original 202, plus extras from the other generations to bump up variety. There's a lot of places in Hoenn that suit newer Pokémon too, especially desert Pokémon such as Sandile and Scrafty.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Kalos? I'll rather it be like PT Sinnoh dex size. I disliked how Kalos handled it's dex in the long run. Kalos had 450 or so Pokémon...that'll mean an addition of 248 to match that thing...and I'll hate to see them outnumber the Gen III pokémon like that in the remake of their introduction region. Hoenn don't need 200 more Pokémon in it.s dex to fix type issues. A good 60 or so would do the trick.

 

[Altairis]

Kalos? I'll rather it be like PT Sinnoh dex size. I disliked how Kalos handled it's dex in the long run. Kalos had 450 or so Pokémon...that'll mean an addition of 248 to match that thing...and I'll hate to see them outnumber the Gen III pokémon like that in the remake of their introduction region. Hoenn don't need 200 more Pokémon in it.s dex to fix type issues. A good 60 or so would do the trick.

Why? As I said in my previous posts, a Kalos sized Pokedex would benefit the games as we would be able to catch all non-special (starter, legend, event) Pokemon in the same generation instead of taking two steps forward one step back a generation. The only reason that the Hoenn dex in the originals was smaller was because there were less Pokemon, I don't believe it was to keep some kind of Hoenn-exclusivity. And at the time, an entire region of Pokemon was obtainable in the same gen (FRLG had Kanto Pokemon) so there were really just Johto Pokemon. Wasn't it annoying to not be able to catch all the Pokemon? I realize that this is slightly different because they were literally unobtainable since there weren't other games, but it's a similar case.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Why? As I said in my previous posts, a Kalos sized Pokedex would benefit the games as we would be able to catch all non-special (starter, legend, event) Pokemon in the same generation instead of taking two steps forward one step back a generation. The only reason that the Hoenn dex in the originals was smaller was because there were less Pokemon, I don't believe it was to keep some kind of Hoenn-exclusivity. And at the time, an entire region of Pokemon was obtainable in the same gen (FRLG had Kanto Pokemon) so there were really just Johto Pokemon. Wasn't it annoying to not be able to catch all the Pokemon? I realize that this is slightly different because they were literally unobtainable since there weren't other games, but it's a similar case.

Even with all the Pokemon unattainable in XY I don't think it'll reach the huge number of Pokemon in the Kalos dex. I'll be fine with them adding the one's not in XY.

 

[Salzorrah]

A GBA PokeDex.

Yup, I stand by my statement that its 20% more awesomeness.

Although not as advanced as the Kalos was, It seems fitting since we are backtracking through the timeline. And how it looks so cool! I wished they made a limited edition GBA stylised as the new Hoenn PokeDex :P

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

The RSE dex is said to be based off the GBA Sp's design but the original GBA wasn't used...until now. I like it, but it doesn't give me as much nostalgia as I had an SP and not the original.

 

[Salzorrah]

The original Hoenn Dex doesn't look like the GBA SP tbh. I feel like the HGSS Dex looks more of a GBA SP + DS haha. Now that I think about it, the original Hoenn Dex looks more advanced than the New Hoenn Dex xD;

Also, I noticed they adapted the Hoenn Dex style to the new Pokedex haha :)

 

[Aeroblast]

If it's anything like the HGSS Johto Pokedex, there will be Gen IV evolutions like Gallade added. I don't expect to see big changes.

 

[Altairis]

I thought the Kalos dex's size was really fun because there were so many good team options to pick from! But I guess it might just be a little bit overkill for two games in the same generation to have almost every Pokemon, haha.

I don't use the PokeDex that often, so I don't really care what it looks like, honestly

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

The original Hoenn Dex doesn't look like the GBA SP tbh. I feel like the HGSS Dex looks more of a GBA SP + DS haha. Now that I think about it, the original Hoenn Dex looks more advanced than the New Hoenn Dex xD;

Also, I noticed they adapted the Hoenn Dex style to the new Pokedex haha :)

Of course it does, the GBA Sp was more advanced looking than the original GBA so the dexes based on them reflect that xD. (Maybe if they make ΔE it'll go back to an Sp as it was what most that lived by me played Emerald with at the time...)

I think it'll be slight additions now. Does anyone recall how they referred to the additions in HGSS' Johto dex?

 

[Zeturic]

To be honest, I'm not expecting too much of an addition. Most likely, they'll be rather conservative about adding new Pokemon.

I'm expecting all of the cross-generational evolutions, such as Gallade and Froslass.

They might also open up some of the post-game areas during the main game, and add the Pokemon available there in Emerald to the Hoenn Dex. For example, the Desert Underpass for Ditto, or the Safari Zone's addition for Pokemon like Mareep and Houndour.

If it's anything like the HGSS Johto Pokedex, there will be Gen IV evolutions like Gallade added. I don't expect to see big changes.

Actually, if it was like HGSS's Pokedex, then the Hoenn Pokedex wouldn't get changed at all. HGSS's updated Pokedex only included evolutions that didn't involve items - the reason being, of course, that they could place the items in Kanto (post-game) and thus you wouldn't normally be able to evolve them.

The ones it kept are all level-up w/ a certain move. Because there'd be no way to prevent you from accessing it through normal gameplay until you got to Kanto - they just learn the moves naturally. So they were added to the Johto Dex. This is why we have Mamoswine and Ambipom, but not Gliscor or Porygon-Z.

Hoenn, however, has no Pokemon like that. Every single Pokemon in Hoenn that has a cross-generational evolution or pre-evolution is based on items. So, nothing would be added.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

To be honest, I'm not expecting too much of an addition. Most likely, they'll be rather conservative about adding new Pokemon.

I'm expecting all of the cross-generational evolutions, such as Gallade and Froslass.

They might also open up some of the post-game areas during the main game, and add the Pokemon available there in Emerald to the Hoenn Dex. For example, the Desert Underpass for Ditto, or the Safari Zone's addition for Pokemon like Mareep and Houndour.



Actually, if it was like HGSS's Pokedex, then the Hoenn Pokedex wouldn't get changed at all. HGSS's updated Pokedex only included evolutions that didn't involve items - the reason being, of course, that they could place the items in Kanto (post-game) and thus you wouldn't normally be able to evolve them.

The ones it kept are all level-up w/ a certain move. Because there'd be no way to prevent you from accessing it through normal gameplay until you got to Kanto - they just learn the moves naturally. So they were added to the Johto Dex. This is why we have Mamoswine and Ambipom, but not Gliscor or Porygon-Z.

Hoenn, however, has no Pokemon like that. Every single Pokemon in Hoenn that has a cross-generational evolution or pre-evolution based on items. So, nothing would be added.

I think so too for both the evolutions and the safari zone. Mareep and Houndoom also got Megas so maybe they could have it's Mega stones during the story or post game.
Then they can add gen IV, V, and VI Pokemon to the post game safari extension from Emerald.