Forum Event: [The Tohjo Cup] Rnd 2: Misty vs. Bugsy!

[Dragon]

Round Two:

Misty vs. Bugsy!

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My apologizes on getting the second round so late. Welcome to the second League Battle of the Tohjo Cup! This round puts the second Gym Leaders of each region: Misty, The Tomboyish Mermaid, is up against Bugsy, The Walking Bug Pokémon Encyclopedia!

"Looks like we're up next, Bugsy!"

"Looks like it!"

"But, I won't lose, Misty! I never lose when it comes to Bug-type Pokémon. Let me demonstrate what I've learned from my studies!

"Oh, really? Let's see how well your Bugs stand up to the Mighty Misty and her aquatic-type Pokemon!"​

Which of these two are your favourite? Which one deserves to win this round for their region? Please put in your favourite of the two votes at the poll above, and post about your favourite! This round will continue until next week!

 

[CodeHelmet]

While Misty is my favorite, looking at the matchup I honestly think Bugsy would win. Heracross alone would crush Starmie and Lapras with its Bug and Fighting moves. Then it'd be a battle of attrition where I think Bugsy would come out on top thanks to Type and even ability advantages. Is there any Pokémon of Misty's who could harm Bugsy's Shedinja? Hard to say. I'll vote Misty but damn Bugsy ought to win this.

 

[ddrox13]

Something something all out offensive, something something Bugsy sucks.

Bugsy has a number of claims to this round with the teams you gave them. For one, Misty probably can't hit Shedinja. For another, Misty's ace has a Bug weakness, and her team has no Bug resists.

On the other hand, Quagsire.

 

[Venonat in Space]

Uh...this is a toughy. As I said I don't have much experience with the Johto games. I got to Bugsy. He as pretty tough. Misty is a tomboyish mermaid like meeeeee! Bugsy is a just a bug encyclopedia. As for the matchup....I don't know. Quagsire could probs beat the bugs, also Lantern's electric and Starmie could beat a couple of them with the Psychic in case there's a fighting or poision duel type there. Yep...Misty. Also, she was cool in the anime just sayin'.
Here's to the next match-up.

 

[Janp]

Just like for the 1st round, I'll put this in few categories. (also note that this is just my opinion):

Character design and personality
Misty - I love both of her designs. IIRC she is only Gym Leader that had huge design change. Her design fits her Gym and theme.
Bugsy - Just like with Falkner, I think Bugsy's design really fits the whole game, even though he is just "Bug Catcher with purple hair".
This one is quite hard, because I like both of their designs... But I'll give this one to Misty, because of her LGPE re-design.

Pokémon
Let's talk about Pokémon team when you face them:
Misty - In RBY/FRLG she uses Staryu and Starmie. They can prove hard, especially in remakes, because her Pokémon knowing Water Pulse and Recover. Once again, it's hard for the Charmander users, but you can catch Pikachu, if you're having a hard time. Overall I think her battle is challenging enough for the 2nd Gym. In LGPE she uses Psyduck and Starmie with reduced levels, for some reason, making the battle ridiculously easy.
Bugsy - Now Bugsy's team is interesting. In GSC, his Pokémon even have better movesets for some reason and Scyther's Fury Cutter can prove to be hard. But his Pokémon's levels are just too low for 2nd Gym. HGSS reworks movesets and adds 1 level to every Pokémon. Scyther no longer knows Furry Cutter, but knows U-turn. It changes the pace of the battle, but isn't that bad. His other 2 Pokémon are Metapod and Kakuna, which imho aren't that great for a Gym Battle.
Once again, Misty's team is more appealing.

Gym design and grunts
This one will be really short. Both Gyms are simple and fit the theme. But I like the puzzle in Bugsy's Gym in HGSS, so I'll give this one to him.

Actual battle
Now, let's look at the battle using the teams above (Lapras' sprite is only one that is animated btw and it drives me crazy). As others already said, there is no way Misty can beat Bugsy's Shedinja. None of her Pokémon knows Flying, Rock, Ghost, Fire or Dark-Type attack to take it down. It's clearly lost battle from beginning. No doubts Bugsy won this battle... Or is there a way? It took me months of research, but I finally found out way how can Misty beat that pesky immortal bug. And it was in front of me all this time... That moving Lapras. She knows Perish Song! But to use it successfully, Shedinja has to be Bugsy's last Pokémon and Misty will team another 1 or 2 Pokémon to secure her victory. So, is it possible for this scenario to happen? I would say there is. Bugsy's Pokémon's levels are in range 48 (Shedinja) - 56 (Scizor), while Misty's are 54 (Floatzel and Lanturn) - 60 (Milotic and Starmie). That give Misty a small advantage, but almost none of her Pokémon are super effective against Bugsy's. On the other side, Bugsy has several Pokémon effective against Misty's.
Okay, enough talk, let's battle! Bugsy's Yanmega can fall against Starmie, Floatzel, Milotic, Lapras and Lanturn. That's all you got from Misty's side for the super effective hits. Bugsy's Scizor and Heracross easily cut through Misty's team, but I would say together they would take down 3-4 Pokémon - Starmie, Floatzel, Lanturn and maybe Quagsire. That would leave both Gym Leaders with 3 Pokémon. Bugsy's Pinsir can be easily countered with Quagsire, assuming she survived earlier and Guillotine won't hit. Vespiquen could be annoying, but she is at level 52, so no real problem. She could probably finish of Quagsire, though. That would leave Bugsy with only Shedinja and Misty with Milotic and Lapras. Plus Milotic has Rest, so she can heal pretty well.
So yeah, there is a way for Misty to win this fight. But that's just 1 way in all the possible ways for this battle, so I'll give Bugsy this one.

Well, this was pretty nice matchup. I'll vote Misty, because she has bigger impact in the games that Bugsy.