Things you'd change?

[Nick]

Don't you guys have like separate mods and hstaff discussion forums or something?

There's a new forum for every staff level. They each have their own purpose. Mod forum is the Mod & Admin Lounge [pretty much the same thing as CQ&F in a weird way], and hstaff is the HQ (and admin is CMD).

So yeah, either you guys should snoop in on the conversation, or they can post one little thing saying "okay pay attention guys this is what's going down", and you wouldn't have to PM anyone, and it would mostly be a copy+paste job…and if you have a discussion forum for changes with all staff included but only hstaff could make the final decision, you guys have a bigger sample size, and with surveys, that's usually a good thing.

The argument that's being made by most hstaff is they don't want to add another step to the process, which I agree with. It takes so long to get things done in HQ it's absolutely ridiculous, and most of the time it's not because it takes time to hammar out the details. When something finally does make the vote, most of us don't want to add another 12 or 24 or 48 hours for the change to occur. So having a post that says "okay pay attention guys this is what's going down" just, as Audy said, adds another step to the process that's kind of unnecessary because changes are announced in the updates thread anyway.

and concerning the bureaucauiewfiawhi the long process that it takes to decide something, you should implement a Phoenix Wright type of system, where within x time if you don't come up with a "solution" the Top 3 or something (oldest? most posts? idk you guys figure it out) will automatically decide for everyone if to go on (ie it's alllmost there, it just needs some more ironing out), or to just skip xyz (you guys are in gridlock over a detail or the whole idea). And I say the top three or w/e can override because (1) this is pretty much their forum at this point, and (2) I can trust that they can make the right decision if they haven't been kicked out of their positions…

I don't really understand this, but I don't think I'd agree to it.

Or if it's getting the votes, have all the staff be required to vote within x time (preferably 2/3 days, since that accounts for "required activity" and time zones) so that you don't have to "bump the thread with the votes" and everything.

And if it's because it's slow to get the staff to discuss, just require them to get on and try to contribute (I say try because I know there's some issues where I couldn't care less), because it's their job and minor details like that.

It's the hstaff's job and responsibility to vote in HQ threads. That's our primary responsibility (in fact, I think it's actually our only real responsibility). So, as far as I'm concerned, all hstaff are required to vote. And I don't like putting a time limit on how soon someone should reply to a thread. I don't know the reason behind other people not replying to threads, mostly because I think I'm pretty spammy in HQ and I generally think it through via my posts rather than gathering my thoughts before posting, but I think most of the time, it's safe to assume that its a case of "Okay, I read this. I'm going to take some time to think about it." And, honestly, I'd rather them take that time to think it through than require them to reply immediately.

 

[Kura]

Just a note: I can't even see who gave me post-comments.

Damn.. didn't Syd say you should be able to see them? ._. Deffo should be changed so you can see them.

 

[Nihilego]

Huh really? Hstaff can all see post comments through the modcp, just not through normal styles. Or at least I can. d:

 

[Sydian]

When I said hstaff can see who leaves comments, I meant overall they can check and see. Not entirely sure about if they can look in their user cp and see them like mods used to be able to, but whether they can or not, I know they can check through what Razor Leaf mentioned. Unless admins gave him crazy powers, haha.

 

[Joexv]

I would have a better mobile site. The current one doesnt work to well and it's harder to find topics and the text boxes pictures and videos will go way off the screen a lot of the time. Other than that the team recruitment thread area, won't post my team thread even though I followed the rules that they wanted.

 

[Her]

Uh, since we can view a list of all the post comments given to us by other people, would it be possible to make it so we can view the post comments we have given to others??? Makes sense to me imo

 

[Jetfire]

My suggestion/opinion would be for the moderators not to take their jobs so seriously.

I've been in that position where I've been in that "position of power" and all of sudden I'm scrolling through the website with the Code of Conduct closely at hand. Guys, remember that this is a Pokemon website not the White House forums.

Don't get me wrong, I praise your level of commitment towards your job and how seriously you take it. But, the people who join this website solely come for 3 main reasons: Trade, battle and meet new people. If something gets complicated just to get any of the 3, then I'm sure their level of enthusiasm is sure to diminish.

 

[tnfsf11]

I just wanna say here that I dislike the crazy amount of closed threads, which are, mainly, made up of 2 posts; 1 by the OP & 1 by the mod closing the thread.
99% of these closed threads are just useless, taking up space & they're not even that important to read, most of them are just threads in the wrong section :P
Can you, mods, please erase more closed threads? OR just move the ones that aren't silly into their appropriate section... IS ANYBODY LISTENING?

 

[Sydian]

The thing with closed threads is that we need the OP of that thread to see why it was locked, and if they have questions, they can PM the mod as to why it was locked. And other people can look at that thread and in turn know, "Okay, I'll remember this so that I don't get my thread locked like this as well." We only delete threads that are really bad, like trolling threads or porn spammers or adbots.

As far as moving them, I do agree there. I myself try to move as many threads as I can if possible, though I don't move them if they don't meet the requirements for the forum, would go in a forum that goes under approval, there's already a topic about it there, or if even I don't know where it goes, just that it doesn't belong in my forum. But yeah, I have seen threads just get locked and not moved and there, to me, seemed like there was no reason not to, which I don't understand. If you know where it goes and it will fit in fine, there's no problem in moving it and that should be done. That's how I see it, anyway.

Hope that clears up some stuff about locked threads~

 

[moon]

This has been said before and rejected for reasons, I think. I even have some reasons against it, myself. But I would like to again throw out the idea of merging Pokémon Gaming Central and Pokémon General.

So many are confused about which of those two sections to post in and even though I understand that you might want to promote more of a theory based discussion and the concept of pokémon and the pokémon world as a whole in PG, I don't think it's completely necessary to draw a line between discussions related to pokémon in gaming and pokémon in other media/the idea of pokémon.

Not sure where this merged section would be best situated in the main forum index, and not sure what should be done with the manga subforum if it was placed under the gaming discussions, but yeah.

What do you think?

 

[Sydian]

Actually, I haven't really dealt with too many PG and PGC confusions like I used to. It was really bad back when PGC was General Pokemon Gaming. It got a lot better after the name change and I don't get a big influx of threads that get moved to PG like I did back then. In fact, I get more threads that get moved to in-game team help haha. But I can't say the same for PG. I don't really go in there often, so idk if it's having that problem or not, but I didn't notice a ton of threads getting moved from there to here, unless I'm missing something here. Nick has been watching over that forum lately, so maybe he'll stop by and share his brief experiences, or Toujours might say something about hers.

They were originally together though, and I remember it was quite a mess, which is why it was split. Plus, there are the subforums in PG and putting PG, with the two subforums, with PGC would make it kind of a...super forum. @_@ And both sections are really active on their own so...I don't really see the point in putting them back together. I think it's easier to deal with small amounts of confusion rather than a mass influx of threads everywhere with a bajillion different topics.

It seems like I'm trying to rain on peoples parades in this thread, but really I'm just trying to clarify why some things are the way they are. Believe me, I know where you're coming from on this, and I sometimes think about it too, but then I think of the mess it would really create, considering how much PGC and PG have morphed into their own thing since the time when they were originally together.

 

[Jetfire]

Another thing I'd probably "promote" more would be the chat. That place is like a waiting room.

I don't really have an elaborated idea on the concept but, it's really dead in there. It'd be cool to have more activity and interaction among members in the chat.

 

[Her]

Another thing I'd probably "promote" more would be the chat. That place is like a waiting room.

I don't really have an elaborated idea on the concept but, it's really dead in there. It'd be cool to have more activity and interaction among members in the chat.

Although TPC's situation is nowhere as hopeless as the Oekaki's, I think it's similar in the sense that there's nothing that can really be done about it. There's been countless attempts to try and make the place a booming hub and whatever, and there hasn't really been a lasting effect from any of those drives. I think it's just one of those things that can't really be helped.
Does Nica still talk there? I'd imagine she wouldn't hang around there after her, uh, graceful exit from the forum, but she was one of the main pushers for activity in the forum and if she's gone, I hold even less hope for the chat.

 

[antemortem]

People that want to chat have tended to gravitate towards the Showdown server more now for reasons I'm unsure of. I feel like Showdown is, though, much more user-friendly and the interface is cleaner and more presentable than the sometimes cluttered and distasteful appearance of IRC chats, especially the in-browser version here. I can't speak on behalf of the entire community, though.

 

[antemortem]

It's easier to hold events there too, in case anyone wishes to battle, then they can!

This as well. The IRC is very limited in what it can do, and is quite literally nothing more than a chat room, whereas the Showdown server also allows battles and some freedom with the things that can be done on it. Weighing the two against each other, I'd much rather hang out where I can do something to bide my time in addition to chatting with others.

 

[Jetfire]

Although TPC's situation is nowhere as hopeless as the Oekaki's, I think it's similar in the sense that there's nothing that can really be done about it. There's been countless attempts to try and make the place a booming hub and whatever, and there hasn't really been a lasting effect from any of those drives. I think it's just one of those things that can't really be helped.
Does Nica still talk there? I'd imagine she wouldn't hang around there after her, uh, graceful exit from the forum, but she was one of the main pushers for activity in the forum and if she's gone, I hold even less hope for the chat.

Well, this is where I would encourage the active members of the community to pull together and find variable possibilities. This forum has the activity and the members - I sincerely believe that it all ends up on how it's promoted.

Think about it this way. "Speed of the leader, speed of the team." If none or few of the active members don't really use the chat, then it's bound to stay the way it is. Example: why is the introduction forum so popular and doesn't fail to have at least 10 new threads each day? It's because people see activity there along with the fact that it's suggested to make an introduction.

I'm sure there are ways to advertise the chat more effectively.

 

[Her]

Well, this is where I would encourage the active members of the community to pull together and find variable possibilities. This forum has the activity and the members - I sincerely believe that it all ends up on how it's promoted.

Think about it this way. "Speed of the leader, speed of the team." If none or few of the active members don't really use the chat, then it's bound to stay the way it is. Example: why is the introduction forum so popular and doesn't fail to have at least 10 new threads each day? It's because people see activity there along with the fact that it's suggested to make an introduction.

I'm sure there are ways to advertise the chat more effectively.

The intro forum is a bad example to use, but I won't go into that.

If you have a fresh new idea onto how to promote the forum, then I'm sure we would all love to hear it - because it's been literally paraded around the forum multiple times, had countless blogs dedicated to it/conversations from it posted in blogs, people have mentioned it many, many times in their posts, etc. There's also been various Get Together events dedicated to it over the years.
Especially with the rise of the Showdown server, I just don't see what else can be done.

 

[moon]

I don't think this would warrant a thread of its own, so I just hope that someone sees it here.


Pokémon Clubs
This forum is for those who wish to start a club within the community. This forum is for Pokémon clubs; Other Clubs is for everything else.

Pokémon Trivia
Make your own games and trivia, or play games made by other members. Non-Pokémon Trivia goes in the Other Trivia forum.


The bolded words should probably be replaced with the new forum names.

 

[Kura]

Reading up on this on the DCC..
I know that people on your ignore list get their posts collapsed and whatnot.
But are people on your ignore list not able to vm/pm you? That actually may be good to stop any harassment going on.
I know you can just set vms to friends-only.. but maybe it'd be nice, if we don't have it, to set it to "everyone but those on your ignore list" as an option under "everyone"?


Sorry if we already have this. I don't really know how I would test this haha.

 

[moon]

I just spotted some details in the forum index.

Some sections apply thread moderation. In the index, most of those have a line saying:
New threads in this forum are to be approved by a moderator before they are displayed.

But for the Roleplay Corner, one word is different:
New threads in this forum are to be validated by a moderator before they are displayed.

ermagerd, detaails 8D but just for the sake of consistency, maybe change it to match the others.


Also, Fan Clubs & Groups has thread moderation as well, doesn't it? But the index does not tell you so.