Trade Corner Suggestion Thread

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Why not just have the hackers Thread locked? If a person is trading hacks lock there Thread and make it so they cant make a new one simple as that...
Seriously though this place is full of hacks RNC the little fairy giveawayer has about 20 hacks in her TGhread that she said she has "checked" hack checks are not 100% reliable and i have even told her about 10 of her pokemon have illegal IV Combinations.... Nothing has been done about hacks on this site so i give up on it theres no point anymore :/

"Hey mawds, there are hacks here but I will not tell you specifically but I expect you to find them but if you do not find them in 1 hour then I am leaving forever!!111"

What was hacked on her thread, i.e. what species? A shiny Raikou, a Dialga, a what? Although you have explicitly informed her, you could have approached her in a much better light without the insults, e.g. "your thread is full of KARP".

Visitor messages are not a formal method of communication. Although you may indeed have, did you discuss with her via Private Message...? Did you have to post on her profile accusing her...? Did you explicitly address the issue with a mod (although Ursula lacks knowledge about RNG and competitive topics)? As a member, you really do not have the right to take such matters into your own hands.

On another notion, did you consider the possibility of Synchronize being used? I have checked some of my chained shinies, and often, those successfully synchronized had "no possibilities" on X-Act's IV-PID applet. :(

Sorry, but not everyone is as enlightened as you, Chains. Do not give up so easily when I admire your effort to remove hacks. :)

I have more of a problem with scamming, i.e. intentional trading of hacks and not alerting the receiver. As far as I am concerned, RNC does not intentionally trade hacks, and she is trying to learn more about legal.exe and IVs to remove any hacks, as evident in her conversationwith Ninshark, a Secure checker.

FYI Smogon is a source, not God. Same goes to Serebii, Bulbapedia, legal.exe, etc. We are all human and we are doing the best we can. ^_^
 
IMO we should let this go, its turned into the Argument about hacks thread.
 
I understand and I do agree with what you and greene are saying but I like trading just as much as all of you do, but I'm just saying that we should be careful and be aware of those who hack. Because we all hate hacks, don't we?
???

But how will we know who is a haker and who isnt without a blacklist
Yes :)
Yes exactly...so I would like to see some sort of list implemented in the near future.
Yes again :)

"Hey mawds, there are hacks here but I will not tell you specifically but I expect you to find them but if you do not find them in 1 hour then I am leaving forever!!111"
Lol not possible too many :/

What was hacked on her thread, i.e. what species? A shiny Raikou, a Dialga, a what? Although you have explicitly informed her, you could have approached her in a much better light without the insults, e.g. "your thread is full of KARP".
Didnt mean to come off as rude but some things were so obvious (Flawless Modest Shiny Kyogre from the 3rd Generation, Yes its not possible to get a Raikou wit has good IV's as the one she has further more its shiny so its hacked :/ And she had a 383 Sp.Atk Vaporeon yes the the first two arent as obvious but the third.... come on use some common sense before trading...... And i did say to her "im trying to help you"


Visitor messages are not a formal method of communication. Although you may indeed have, did you discuss with her via Private Message...? Did you have to post on her profile accusing her...? Did you explicitly address the issue with a mod (although Ursula lacks knowledge about RNG and competitive topics)? As a member, you really do not have the right to take such matters into your own hands.
Not once have i actually contacted her and i havent bothered she doesnt listen to anythign i have to say....

On another notion, did you consider the possibility of Synchronize being used? I have checked some of my chained shinies, and often, those successfully synchronized had "no possibilities" on X-Act's IV-PID applet. :(
Hmmm was this a Normal Pokemon or Legnedary?
Legnedary Pokemo nare the only Pokemon with possible Illegal Iv combinations normal pokemon can have any IV Combination they want
Like....
31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish Dialga is impossible without hacking as it would be illegal IV combination
Because there is no Flawless Impish Spread/Seed

Sorry, but not everyone is as enlightened as you, Chains. Do not give up so easily when I admire your effort to remove hacks. :)
thank you :)

I have more of a problem with scamming, i.e. intentional trading of hacks and not alerting the receiver. As far as I am concerned, RNC does not intentionally trade hacks, and she is trying to learn more about legal.exe and IVs to remove any hacks, as evident in her with Ninshark, a Secure checker.
Yes i understand that but some of the stuff she ahs traded had been so obviously hacked and she should pay more attention to what she trades and as i said before legit exe is not 100% reliable no hack check is

FYI Smogon is a source, not God. Same goes to Serebii, Bulbapedia, legal.exe, etc. We are all human and we are doing the best we can. ^_^
Not once did i mention smogon.....
 
Hmmm was this a Normal Pokemon or Legnedary?
Legnedary Pokemo nare the only Pokemon with possible Illegal Iv combinations normal pokemon can have any IV Combination they want
Like....
31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish Dialga is impossible without hacking as it would be illegal IV combination
Because there is no Flawless Impish Spread/Seed

IIRC Syncronizing lets you get any IV combo possible, even on legends.

Might be wrong, haven't did it since I discovered RNG...
 
Twilight should be modded haha :3

Just sort of backing up Twlights claim, Chains, she honestly isn't a hacker. Everybody makes mistakes, and its good to learn from them. I'm sorry to say that I have not Hack Checked all my pokemon (yet), but when someone informs me I have a hacked pokemon, I take it off of my thread. Our mothers have told us to not point fingers at each other, so everything should be confronted in a calm and mature way.

I do suggest - like many others have - that we should have an almighty Blacklist on PC, but I'm just wondering how exactly someone makes it? Does a person make it if he/she accidently trades a hack from their site, or a person who deliberatly hacks? And if so, how would a person know if it was that specific person who hacked? The person could pull the whole "I didn't know it was a a hack, honestly! :o" crap. I'd like to be enlightened please ^_^

Last words, Smogon can go and eat my shorts... -_-
 
IIRC Syncronizing lets you get any IV combo possible, even on legends.

Might be wrong, haven't did it since I discovered RNG...

No... im pretty sure that "some" it wont work as some method 1 Seed's wont even work with a Synch for Method J Pokemon so im pretty sure that some Combinations are illegal... I think your thinking of wondercard pokemon
Now even though 31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish is Illegal on a Legend on a Wondercard it is because the Nature is generated Randomly...
And i might be wrong too id have to ask Mingot XD

EDIT: Dont know what Smogon has to do with this.....


And this is my point everything here is dealt with so....... "delecitly" i guesss i could say even though RNC isnt a hacker herself she is resonsible for what she trades correct? and is her respnsobility to check her pokemon before she trades them correct?
Also some people just get a slap on the wrist for this kind of stuff here and i think more should be done then that and thats why there are so many hacks in some threads.....
What im trying to say is PC either has to get alittle stricter with the Trade Forum and make a Blacklist or yeah its just gunna go farther down the drain
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I want this bottom part to be seen as i feel its the most important part of what im trying to say
 
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Not once have i actually contacted her and i havent bothered she doesnt listen to anythign i have to say....
No offense or anything but thats bull. If you haven't contacted her, then how would you know what her reaction would be?
 
Well a blacklist is basically a list of members who are known hackers,scammers etc. reported by someone who has scammed by them. Then you list why user x is on the blacklist and how serious of an offense it was.
 
Well a blacklist is basically a list of members who are known hackers,scammers etc. reported by someone who has scammed by them. Then you list why user x is on the blacklist and how serious of an offense it was.
No, I mean I know what a blacklist is, I'm just wondering by the part I'm bolding. What exactly would the limit be for a person to be blackmailed.
 
No... im pretty sure that "some" it wont work as some method 1 Seed's wont even work with a Synch for Method J Pokemon so im pretty sure that some Combinations are illegal... I think your thinking of wondercard pokemon
Now even though 31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish is Illegal on a Legend on a Wondercard it is because the Nature is generated Randomly...
And i might be wrong too id have to ask MingoXD

So someone slse said it, and its true?

EDIT: Dont know what Smogon has to do with this.....


And this is my point everything here is dealt with so....... "delecitly" i guesss i could say even though RNC isnt a hacker herself she is resonsible for what she trades correct? and is her respnsobility to check her pokemon before she trades them correct?

Why are you on RNC? AND YES, SHE IS RESPONSIBLE BUT WHAT IF SHE DIDNT KNOW? And what if she cant check her pokemon?

Also some people just get a slap on the wrist for this kind of stuff here and i think more should be done then that and thats why there are so many hacks in some threads.....

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No, I mean I know what a blacklist is, I'm just wondering by the part I'm bolding. What exactly would the limit be for a person to be blackmailed.


Doing it on purpose I would say.
 
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Doing it on purpose I would say.

No... im pretty sure that "some" it wont work as some method 1 Seed's wont even work with a Synch for Method J Pokemon so im pretty sure that some Combinations are illegal... I think your thinking of wondercard pokemon
Now even though 31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish is Illegal on a Legend on a Wondercard it is because the Nature is generated Randomly...
And i might be wrong too id have to ask MingoXD

So someone slse said it, and its true?


I think Mingot the person who cracked the RNG knows what hes talking about...
And yes it is true its been proven.


EDIT: Dont know what Smogon has to do with this.....


And this is my point everything here is dealt with so....... "delecitly" i guesss i could say even though RNC isnt a hacker herself she is resonsible for what she trades correct? and is her respnsobility to check her pokemon before she trades them correct?

Why are you on RNC? AND YES, SHE IS RESPONSIBLE BUT WHAT IF SHE DIDNT KNOW? And what if she cant check her pokemon?


Shes obvioulsy capable of checking a Vaporeon with 383 Sp.Atk O_o
And im not just "on" her, im talking about hacks in general and am using her thread as an example, i have nothing agaisnt her but personally feel even if she doesnt know is responsible for what she trades as is anyone else


Also some people just get a slap on the wrist for this kind of stuff here and i think more should be done then that and thats why there are so many hacks in some threads.....


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Unforutately that is hard to find out.

Around here nowadays, no it wouldn't.

If a respected trader has a hacked pokemon(like TwillightBlade for example) has 1 hack, does she deserve an infraction/ban/susoended thread?

Ive seen threads like, I HAVE EVERY POKEMON JUST ASK AND YOU WILL RECIEVE, those are obviously hackers.

EDIT: @ Chains: WTF, well thats an obvious hack.....
 
A blacklist would be simple to do; people may submit a trader for the blacklist detailing exactly why they are and linking to the conversation between them and the eledged hacker as proof of the altercation. Mods can then add at their own disgretion or add them to a suspect list, judging whether the trade knew the Pokemon they were trading was hacked or did it intentionally (Which is usually obvious). Should any member be reported several times then they go on automatically.

@ elhero: Blade used to be a mod before. And the reason Chains has such a problem with the RNC thing (and I saw the VM conversation between them about it) is that RNC basically said straight up he was wrong and immediately rejected his advice and took offense from it without considering what he was saying or checking the Pokes even though Chains was in fact right.

From what I've learned even through Synchronize, certain combos still aren't possible.
 
Well, the way I see it, we just need to give the Blacklist a try.
 
Around here nowadays, no it wouldn't.

If a respected trader has a hacked pokemon(like TwillightBlade for example) has 1 hack, does she deserve an infraction/ban/susoended thread?

Ive seen threads like, I HAVE EVERY POKEMON JUST ASK AND YOU WILL RECIEVE, those are obviously hackers.

EDIT: @ Chains: WTF, well thats an obvious hack.....
That is my point.... She had it on her thread even though it was obvious anyways im done talking about her :)


A blacklist would be simple to do; people may submit a trader for the blacklist detailing exactly why they are and linking to the conversation between them and the eledged hacker as proof of the altercation. Mods can then add at their own disgretion or add them to a suspect list, judging whether the trade knew the Pokemon they were trading was hacked or did it intentionally (Which is usually obvious). Should any member be reported several times then they go on automatically.

@ elhero: Blade used to be a mod before. And the reason Chains has such a problem with the RNC thing (and I saw the VM conversation between them about it) is that RNC basically said straight up he was wrong and immediately rejected his advice and took offense from it without considering what he was saying or checking the Pokes even though Chains was in fact right.

From what I've learned even through Synchronize, certain combos still aren't possible.

Thank you.....

EDIT: Syndrome I agree atleast ita a "Step Forward" right?
 
Yeah, it would be....But if it doesnt work, the only thing we could possibly do is lock off the trade corner and let the higher ups revamp it.
 
I do suggest - like many others have - that we should have an almighty Blacklist on PC, but I'm just wondering how exactly someone makes it? Does a person make it if he/she accidently trades a hack from their site, or a person who deliberatly hacks? And if so, how would a person know if it was that specific person who hacked? The person could pull the whole "I didn't know it was a a hack, honestly! :o" crap. I'd like to be enlightened please ^_^
This is the main reason as to why I'm weary to having a blacklist. [I'm pretty sure I've posted this before . . :\]

No... im pretty sure that "some" it wont work as some method 1 Seed's wont even work with a Synch for Method J Pokemon so im pretty sure that some Combinations are illegal... I think your thinking of wondercard pokemon
Now even though 31/31/31/31/31/31 Impish is Illegal on a Legend on a Wondercard it is because the Nature is generated Randomly...
And i might be wrong too id have to ask Mingot XD

EDIT: Dont know what Smogon has to do with this.....


And this is my point everything here is dealt with so....... "delecitly" i guesss i could say even though RNC isnt a hacker herself she is resonsible for what she trades correct? and is her respnsobility to check her pokemon before she trades them correct?
Also some people just get a slap on the wrist for this kind of stuff here and i think more should be done then that and thats why there are so many hacks in some threads.....
What im trying to say is PC either has to get alittle stricter with the Trade Forum and make a Blacklist or yeah its just gunna go farther down the drain
But, people make mistakes. People can slip up - if one is informed about it, usually one takes care of it without any fuss ^^;
Rarely are there any cases severe enough where people repeatedly trade hacked Pokemon with malicious intent to trade them. :/

Frankly, Chains, if you went around telling her that she had hacked Pokemon the same way that you told TwilightBlade or simply impolitely, I would understand why she might not pay attention or ignore you.
If you're going to tell someone something like that, be polite. D:
Your attitude has a lot to do with the way people react to you. So, try taking that into consideration.
I mean, yes, she might not have listened to you, but were you being polite? D:
Courtesy goes everywhere.
Fine with me your thread is full of **** and hacks anyways ;) btw i will report your thread if i do happen to see anymore ok? ok.
But seriously about the Vaporeon you couldnt tell that was hacked? Your 35 and didnt have the common sense to notice that? Im 15 and did O_o
Have a nice day :)
RNC come on things like this piss me off, dont get me wrong im trying to help, BUT this has FLAWLESS IV'S and its Shiny, this does not appear randomly, i mean come on use some common sense before trading for stuff like this... you have to have a SID/ID Combo for certain Shiny Spreads ok? This is hacked also this is from the 3rd Generation you dont get pokemon like this form there ok?
Reactions such as these are a bit over the top, and unnecessary. :c
I mean, it might not appear as obvious to some, and you definitely needn't be so blunt. I mean, you're trying to help, but you definitely should be more polite. ~_~

[however, further in her defense, didn't she say]
This may not even be any of your business, but I haven't even traded any thing from my thread in over a month, I am in the middle of replacing alot and checking every thing, so if any thing is hacked it will be removed, so stay out of my thread and checking my pokes, I don't need you help for nothing.
You have a nice day!!
So, no need to get all worked up about it. :B

Well a blacklist is basically a list of members who are known hackers,scammers etc. reported by someone who has scammed by them. Then you list why user x is on the blacklist and how serious of an offense it was.
But, there's never really been a need for it. Most traders that really do trade off hacked pokemon usually get banned after so long, and then they usually just don't come back. D:

That is my point.... She had it on her thread even though it was obvious anyways im done talking about her :)
It may be obvious to you, but you are not everyone, clearly.
I'm not one for forcing infractions upon people who clearly made a mistake in judgment - that's absurd and unfair. :/
 
But, there's never really been a need for it. Most traders that really do trade off hacked pokemon usually get banned after so long, and then they usually just don't come back. D:

On the contrary, in my time on the trade boards any time a serial hacker/scammer gets caught out the worst that happens is they get their thread locked and then a month later they reopen a new one and start scamming again. If may have been different before, but over the last few months I have seen so many scammers get away with it and live to scam another day, which they take advantage of.
 
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