Ubuntu users, unite!

Do you use ubuntu?

  • Yes

    Votes: 28 63.6%

  • No

    Votes: 16 36.4%
  • Total voters
    44
This is effectively a thread for people that happily use Ubuntu, so shoving OSX in their face isn't going to go down well. I use Ubuntu with Windows 7 and I am perfectly happy with it. I don't have any intention of using Apple products and that's my choice. No, I don't use an iPod, I don't use iTunes and I have no intention of ever using OSX. It's my choice to stick to Windows and Linux and to support mp3 Player manufacturers so that Apple doesn't achieve even more of a monopoly over that market.
 
Archer said:
This is effectively a thread for people that happily use Ubuntu, so shoving OSX in their face isn't going to go down well. I use Ubuntu with Windows 7 and I am perfectly happy with it. I don't have any intention of using Apple products and that's my choice. No, I don't use an iPod, I don't use iTunes and I have no intention of ever using OSX. It's my choice to stick to Windows and Linux and to support mp3 Player manufacturers so that Apple doesn't achieve even more of a monopoly over that market.
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I use Ubuntu all by itself without dual boot, I want to force myself to learn it's ways. Also, with Ubuntu my computer goes about 10 times faster and has at least 10 GB more storage in the HDD because something like Windows or OSX isn't taking up so much space. I also like the security. Oh also, this is my way to break away from illegal programs, my XP was illegal. So was my Vista. I like freedom.
 
Ctep said:
I use Ubuntu all by itself without dual boot, I want to force myself to learn it's ways. Also, with Ubuntu my computer goes about 10 times faster and has at least 10 GB more storage in the HDD because something like Windows or OSX isn't taking up so much space. I also like the security. Oh also, this is my way to break away from illegal programs, my XP was illegal. So was my Vista. I like freedom.
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have fun removing grub when common sense hits you in the head.

Ubuntu is the most horrible open source OS I have ever used, the damn thing can't install wine for me :/ that and any other program I try to install fails
 
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A question to all of you Linux buffs. Would I be able to boot a linux distro off of an external Firewire drive? I'm current using a iMac and I'm only able to easily have/create 2 total partitions, and the 2nd is being occupied by Windows XP for various reasons. Though I'd like to try a linux distro again. I believe I still have my Ubunto disc that I burned from the iso file.
 
Silver said:
A question to all of you Linux buffs. Would I be able to boot a linux distro off of an external Firewire drive? I'm current using a iMac and I'm only able to easily have/create 2 total partitions, and the 2nd is being occupied by Windows XP for various reasons. Though I'd like to try a linux distro again. I believe I still have my Ubunto disc that I burned from the iso file.
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Probably. Unetbootin is traditionally used for making bootable flash drives, but you'd probably be able to do it with a firewire drive. Not sure, though, just guessing.
 
that shouldn't be too hard there silver. (at least using the disk utility if OSX you can easily split some of the free space in your XP partition for Linux.)
 
I really want to install it, but I'm worried. I don't want my parent's to find out my compy's under a completely different OS... o.o

The Dual Boot is a good idea but my parents would definitely notice...

Would UNetbootin solve that issue?
 
Gerri Shin said:
that shouldn't be too hard there silver. (at least using the disk utility if OSX you can easily split some of the free space in your XP partition for Linux.)
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Wait. What?
So if I want to boot Linux off my external firewire drive, how would I go about doing that?

And, would I just use Disk Utility to reset and reformat my drive, as currently, it's set to an Mac OS Extended, and thus only readable by Mac OS.
 
Charon the Ferryman said:
I really want to install it, but I'm worried. I don't want my parent's to find out my compy's under a completely different OS... o.o

The Dual Boot is a good idea but my parents would definitely notice...

Would UNetbootin solve that issue?
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You can always just boot it from the CD everytime instead of installing it. I am not sure if you can save files to it though, I am pretty sure that way is just for testing.

Zet said:
have fun removing grub when common sense hits you in the head.

Ubuntu is the most horriblest open source OS I have ever used, the damn thing can't install wine for me :/ that and any other program I try to install fails
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Just because I like something people normally don't doesn't mean I lack common sense. Horriblest isn't a word. Also, I already installed Wine (meaning it is your own fault and that you shouldn't talk bad about an OS because you couldn't) and multiple of other programs including VBA, Advanced Map, encription programs, and many others. :|

Also on top of that, I have already checked, every program I like and use all work for Linux. Every single one, I know they do. How do I know, I have them installed. In fact, two of them actually CAME with Ubuntu. So, I don't really see why Linux is so bad for me.

1. Everything I want works fine.
2. I think it is easy.
3. I like the way it looks and it's effects.
4. It is quicker.

Edit: So you cant go "LIAR!!" https://i30.tinypic.com/9a8j20.png
 
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Charon the Ferryman said:
I really want to install it, but I'm worried. I don't want my parent's to find out my compy's under a completely different OS... o.o

The Dual Boot is a good idea but my parents would definitely notice...

Would UNetbootin solve that issue?
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Unetbootin lets you make a bootable external drive, like on a flash drive. So yeah, you could just plug it in when you want to use the OS and take it out when you're done.

Silver said:
Wait. What?
So if I want to boot Linux off my external firewire drive, how would I go about doing that?

And, would I just use Disk Utility to reset and reformat my drive, as currently, it's set to an Mac OS Extended, and thus only readable by Mac OS.
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Use Unetbootin and make the EHD bootable, et voila! You now have an OS on your EHD.

Archer said:
Guys, look into doing a Wubi install. It creates a virtual partition from Windows and can be uninstalled from Windows Add/Remove Programs. The only downside is that you can't hibernate.
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I haven't really looked into Wubi and similar things (though I do regularly use VirtualBox), but I would think a virtual partition would suffer from becoming fragmented.
 
cloud.CONNECTED said:
I'd rather have security *and* functionality, imo. OSX gives me that. Linux is open source; which means day in, day out; people are analyzing for flaws to exploit ~ seems kinda silly to use an OS like that XD
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Fun fact: OS X is built off FreeBSD, which is open source, and Apple releases the source code for Darwin (Mac OS's underlying architecture) under an open‐source license.

I don't use Ubuntu myself, although I switched my sister over to it. Generally I prefer the BSD way of doing things, but Ubuntu and Linux definitely have their place.
 
Not really, you just do a defrag before installing, so the disc image is saved consecutively and then you should (don't take my word on this one) be able to defrag the partition from within Linux, which sees it as a real partition. You do get ever so slightly reduced disc performance, but probably less of a difference than an external HDD.

It's mainly used for getting used to Linux and deciding if it's worth a dedicated partition without having to run it from the CD for weeks until you get used to it.

Which makes me think, wouldn't running them off a UNetBootIn installer mean it boots like the Live CD does, because they're quite slow. =/
 
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Which makes me think, wouldn't running them off a UNetBootIn installer mean it boots like the Live CD does, because they're quite slow. =/
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Some live CDs have the option to cache everything to RAM, so if you can stand a longer boot time in the end it turns out to be blazingly fast. I know SLAX does this, but it might not be an option with most.
 
Look, it can be done, but it's a real pain to do. Hopefully, the option will exist in Karmic, but you can check out the long way around here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM

I looked into burning the Live CD to a DVD, which would have a positive effect on speed for a Live Session. It would help when showing friends.

I found an article on the Ubuntu forums about "Ubuntu - Mention it, don't preach it". It details how you should tell people about Ubuntu, but don't be an obnoxious fanboy and shove it down their throats, or you wreck the public image. I think this is important to realise, it's worth just having a live CD on you, so people can try it out, when they get curious, but not trying to force it upon them.

It's worth taking the same approach for any OS. I am suggesting to a particular person not to preach OSX. You're making me hate it more. =/
 
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Archer said:
Which makes me think, wouldn't running them off a UNetBootIn installer mean it boots like the Live CD does, because they're quite slow. =/
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I'm not sure, to be honest. I'm not sure where the bottleneck is in Live CDs, so I wouldn't know if the speeds would change. I would think it would be faster, as (a) it has write access and thus can do whatever fancy caching stuff it does, and (b) I believe it takes longer to read from a CD than from a Firewire or USB device.
 
From what I can establish, on a normal 4 GiB flash disk, you get ~20MiB/s read and ~5 MiB/s write speeds. With an external USB HDD, you are looking at ~30MiB/s read and ~20MiB/s write speeds. Taking into account the development of USB 3.0 and it's supposed compatibility with linux, we could see better speeds soon enough. Of course, Firewire is faster than USB 2.0.

CDs read at ~8MiB/s, where as DVDs read at ~22MiB/s. That should make a huge difference, when I believe it's just about the speed at which it copies the OS to RAM.

Enough of my babbling.
 
Cartmic said:
:D that is the icing on the cake for the argument brought forth by Cloud.
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Uh, no it's not lol.
Yes, Darwin is based on an open source product (many, infact, FreeBSD and NeXT to name a few) but the retail product, Mac OS X? Is *not* open source. It's a professional, closed source product. Just because Apple *choose* to release a certain percentage of their code-base back to the community does not mean that they have an Open Sores product.
Thanks for playing, though!
 
That's incredibly noble of Apple, but to be perfectly honest, I thought this was a thread about Ubuntu. If you want to start a discussion about backwater OSs instead of taking this discussion off course, then by all means, be my guest.

Although,
cloud said:
does not mean that they have an Open Sores product.
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I lol'd.

Anyway, what Desktop Environment do you all use? Gnome is default, but a lot of people switch to KDE or Xfce. I've used Xfce in the past, but that was on an ancient computer. I just run standard Gnome, as KDE annoys me somehow.
 
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