• Ever thought it'd be cool to have your art, writing, or challenge runs featured on PokéCommunity? Click here for info - we'd love to spotlight your work!
  • Welcome to PokéCommunity! Register now and join one of the best fan communities on the 'net to talk Pokémon and more! We are not affiliated with The Pokémon Company or Nintendo.
    Register

5th Gen Where is Isshu? Confirmed - New York

Where is Isshu?

  • Total voters
    354
Status
Not open for further replies.
Myles said:
If basing it on Japan doesn't bother you, why America? Someone shouldn't be limited to just their own country. And most people don't even know that any Pokémon regions are based on the real world, so they're not doing it because of that.
Click to expand...

I'm not offending anybody, I'm expressing my opinion.

It bothers me because it is a Japanese game made for a Japanese audience, and that should not be taken for granted. The original games saw extended release because of the popularity of the Anime outside of Japan, thus we should feel privelidged that we get an English language release at all.

Now, if you need it in simple terms, the point I'm trying to make is this. By basing a new region outside of Japan, if I were a loyal Japanese player of the games I would feel betrayed. They were created primarily for the Japanese, and I would feel that the company is neglecting the roots of the franchise just to satisfy the egos of SOME American players, and to perhaps gain more mainstream popularity.

My second point is that, as I have stated many times, there are SOME American players who will see it as japan recognising America's superiority over everybody else, including Japan itself. And, at the risk of bordering on political themes, that is wrong because all races, nations and people are equal, and shouldn't be judged on size or wealth.

My third point would be, why base it on an American area specifically? If the region is going to be based on an area outside of Japan, what about the other nations, and by extension cities, that play the games? What about the areas of this world that express magical natural beauty that would be perfect for a game based on capturing animals?

I just feel that it is tragic that, if Isshu is indeed based upon NYC, they have alienated the loyal players that don't reside in the US and have betrayed their loyal domestic players in Japan, all because they feel the need to adhere to the fact that America and Americans are superior to everybody else. there's nothing wrong with being patriotic, in fact I encourage it, but there is a line.
 
That sounds a lot like the 'Black and White is racist' argument just put into where the place is based.
 
This has got nothing to do with the names of the two versions. I do not believe that they are racist and whoever does should have a rethink about their view of the world. This is the principle of the basis of regions. In what way am I insinuating racism here?
 
Also, the yin-yang concept is Asian - more specifically, Chinese. China. Shanghai. :D Plus - the alter the base geography of a region. Always. But they always base their lakes and mountains off stuff as well.

Funny. Neither of the main regions have mountains, even though GF always bases their large mountain (s) (ranges) on real ones... There's the major stumbling block in both the New York and Shanghai cases.
 
Horizon said:
This has got nothing to do with the names of the two versions. I do not believe that they are racist and whoever does should have a rethink about their view of the world. This is the principle of the basis of regions. In what way am I insinuating racism here?
Click to expand...

Well, if you consider nationalities races. But the idea is sort of the same in that, basing it on New York has no reason to alienate or discriminate against anyone.
 
Ninja Caterpie said:
Also, the yin-yang concept is Asian - more specifically, Chinese. China. Shanghai. :D Plus - the alter the base geography of a region. Always. But they always base their lakes and mountains off stuff as well.

Funny. Neither of the main regions have mountains, even though GF always bases their large mountain (s) (ranges) on real ones... There's the major stumbling block in both the New York and Shanghai cases.
Click to expand...
It isn't a Yin-Yang thing anymore it is a Sky Theme.
 
It's based on Beirut, obviously. The resemblance is uncanny!

... in all seriousness though, it doesn't really matter where it's based. It's a fictional world that can be created from anything and be anywhere. People are getting way too vehement arguing this.
 
Im just gonna break the ice and say it looks like cardiff:
[PokeCommunity.com] Where is Isshu? Confirmed - New York

______________________________________________________________

People, people, people... All of you are blowing this all out of proportion! Does it really even matter where the hell the regions based on? Its a game for like children and maybe a some teenagers (adults may be hardcore fan but its not targeted for them :\) It's not like a 10 year olds gonna really care where its based on!
I wouldn't be suprised if they just made this whole region up outta scratch...
This is what I think, I think they are putting loads of different areas of the world into one region like the big wheel (london eye) and the bridge thingee (new york was it?)
 
Myles said:
Well, if you consider nationalities races. But the idea is sort of the same in that, basing it on New York has no reason to alienate or discriminate against anyone.
Click to expand...

Can you re-word that to make more sense?

How did racism get brought into a discussion about a FICTIONAL REGION IN A FICTIONAL UNIVERSE!? All of a sudden Pokémon Black & White have political and racial connotations?

I'm sorry folks, but this is all incredibly convoluted. Jeez, it's a video game! Okay so fair enough, this could be Game Freaks' way of sticking their heads up America's ass. Or you could just remember its fiction, stop ripping each other to shreds and just play the game...

EDIT

Mew~ said:
Im just gonna break the ice and say it looks like cardiff:
[PokeCommunity.com] Where is Isshu? Confirmed - New York
Click to expand...

I actually wouldn't mind that xD
 
The bridge in that picture spirals and the sky arrow bridge doesn't. *Puts red X across Shanghai*
 
rocky505 said:
The bridge in that picture spirals and the sky arrow bridge doesn't. *Puts red X across Shanghai*
Click to expand...

the bridge connecting hiun to a rural area is exactly the same as the bridge connecting shanghai to a rural area

take another look at the pictures?
 
Again it spirals it looks nothing like Sky arrow bridge except for the direction it is going.
 
rocky505 said:
Again it spirals it looks nothing like Sky arrow bridge except for the direction it is going.
Click to expand...

Ever heard of a little thing called 'Artistic License'. It's how we got Manaphy from a slug...
 
The Shanghai one spirals like 3 times. the spiral on the Isshu one is for just getting on it and it only spirals one time.
 


That basically made me know/sure it was Shanghai, though, things like the City, Pigeon, Bald Eagle; they make me think it's New York which I wouldn't rather have it be. Yes, egos.
 
rocky505 said:
The bridge in that picture spirals and the sky arrow bridge doesn't. *Puts red X across Shanghai*
Click to expand...

The Nanpu bridge has two giant tower like structures like the Sky Arrow Bridge does. The nanpu bridge ends in a swirl like the Sky Arrow Bridge does.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top