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5th Gen Where is Isshu? Confirmed - New York

Where is Isshu?

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pokewalker said:
i have a new argument for NYC:
team plasma wants to seperate pokemon from people and let them be free. (freedom=america.)
@kirbycu please ad this to the NYC arguments
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Aww no love for me? I updated for you anyways. :)

Tbh, I think most of the NY reasons relate to freedom anyway.
 
pokewalker said:
i have a new argument for NYC:
team plasma wants to seperate pokemon from people and let them be free. (freedom=america.)
@kirbycu please ad this to the NYC arguments
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-.- i dont think this should be added to the NYC theories. And what makes u connect freedom solely to america. That must be the dumbest NYC theory after the one where dento is homosexual, gay=USA -.-,

Forever said:


Aww no love for me? I updated for you anyways. :)

Tbh, I think most of the NY reasons relate to freedom anyway.
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Im sorry but how is freedom=america, i know u guys think that china isnt exactly a free country. But team plasma freeing pokemon pointing to NYC, this just seems a desperate clue.
 
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...let's respect other users opinions here. No opinion is "dumb", just... different. Everyone has a right to state their theories, remember.
 
Forever said:
...let's respect other users opinions here. No opinion is "dumb", just... different. Everyone has a right to state their theories, remember.
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True but I don't see how it has much Validity... Team Plasma could be Rebels going up against the Communist regime...though that would be like Humans= Communist gov and Pokemon= Normal peasants...
 
...well, then do you two have any better theories to add to NY, besides that, then? Freedom does make a lot of sense to me at least, but yeah. Not entirely sure whether Plasma's part in the games has been confirmed, but even if so, there are other reasons pointing to freedom.
 
Forever said:
...let's respect other users opinions here. No opinion is "dumb", just... different. Everyone has a right to state their theories, remember.
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I understand that every1 has the rigth to show their opinions, but i found this offensive, saying that, by referencing to freedom in games it points to america. That is a pretty conceited point of view and I think it shouldnt be included to the NYC theories, as it insults china and other contries. :@ this is just wrong to me.
 
Forever said:
...well, then do you two have any better theories to add to NY, besides that, then? Freedom does make a lot of sense to me at least, but yeah. Not entirely sure whether Plasma's part in the games has been confirmed, but even if so, there are other reasons pointing to freedom.
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if you want to include freedom of america opposed to freedom in china(which i think is wrong too) you shouldnt write america=freedom, as that insults me and my nationality pointing that america is the source of freedom and is the only one with choice of freedom. Atleast write that china lacks freedom not america=freedom.
 
Here's the proof for NYC that my friend Volroc got, I'm not sure how many of this has been said but here it is:
At least in one picture of Isshu there were 3 islands under Hiun, two to the left and one to the right. This matches NYC, with Ellis island and Liberty Island on the left and Governors Island on the right.

Also, if the Liberty Ticket goes to the Liberty Island equivalent, which is likely because events usually are on islands away from the main land, then that would basically prove that isshu is based on NYC.

They said that Isshu is somewhere very far away from the rest of the regions, right?
I think that gives more evidence for New York, and while China is far away from Japan, relative to America it is not so far. And considering that New York City is in America, there is a stronger chance of Isshu being based off of NYC.

Are Rock Pigeons(Which Mamepato is most likely based off) in Shanghai? Because I know they are extremely prevalent in NYC.
https://tinyurl.com/isshumaps

New York City's infringement on the once serene environment is a bit obvious. (Again not saying any other city doesn't have this issue)


lets not forget that one of the released pokemon is a eagle with a native american head sorta and the US colors

If you look at New York City, downtown is located at the same place Huin City is located.

That clothing style fits a lot more with western americans.

liberty ticket = liberty statue

During World War II, the statue remained open to the public, although the statue
was not illuminated at night. The statue was lit briefly on December 31, 1943 and on "D-Day", June 6, 1944, when the statue's lights flashed dot-dot-dot-dash, the Morse code for V, for victory."

america is far away from Japan and Isshu is far away from all the other regions. China is close to Japan.

theres a snowy mountains near a fire conservation station (top left of Isshu map they are in the same place in New York as the Isshu map... Desert Road is in the place that the big ass desert is... its like New York if the roads were actually what they are named for xD also there are 2 small islands where the small islands are on Isshu in New York near the dock...

The item you need in order to get him/her is called the "Liberty Ticket" and liberty, as far as I know, is really only associated with the United States. More so than it is with any other real life place anyway. Also New York city has the original Statue of Liberty. I know there are others around the world but New York has the biggest and the original one.

https://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/footballplayer.jpg
along side the Football Player, which is an American sport
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Magmaruby and Aquasapphire said:
then again GF could be going on Stereo types of America...
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That is not a stereotype, stereotype about america is that american think to them self they are the ones with most freedom.
:( as for the freedom of speech, that post disturbed me, and i guess it will disturb most of ppl outside of USA, thereby i request that it will be removed or alteast altered, so it doesnt say america=freedom

Are Rock Pigeons(Which Mamepato is most likely based off) in Shanghai? Because I know they are extremely prevalent in NYC.
-pidgeons are very common in china, chek it on internet

And most of other point are repeating like:
They said that Isshu is somewhere very far away from the rest of the regions, right?
I think that gives more evidence for New York, and while China is far away from Japan, relative to America it is not so far. And considering that New York City is in America, there is a stronger chance of Isshu being based off of NYC.

america is far away from Japan and Isshu is far away from all the other regions. China is close to Japan.

and the stuff about victiny

With the rest i agree
 
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During World War II, the statue remained open to the public, although the statue
was not illuminated at night. The statue was lit briefly on December 31, 1943 and on "D-Day", June 6, 1944, when the statue's lights flashed dot-dot-dot-dash, the Morse code for V, for victory."
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Too much to be a coincidence.

Also American football in Pokemon Musical.
 
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I don't think that Isshu can be generalized just to one specific area.
The reason being that both versions have differences.

If its White forest.
I think of places like Vancouver (That's in Canada) because of the large forests they have, and the rocky mountains.
And Black city could easily be any city from New York to Toronto.

I don't think Pokemon musicals have any form of a valid argument because music culture is present in all over the world.

In general we can just say its based off places outside of Japan.

EDIT: Freedom isn't valid either because every one has freedom in todays world.
And america isn't the best example for freedom...
 
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I find it funny how shanghai started off having less reasons for it being isshu and suddently as had an immense boost, and now has the majority of reasons.
 
SukoSuNa said:
In general we can just say its based off places outside of Japan.
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We cant even say that for sure, since they only said it is further from other regions, which may be only ingame since pokemon world is probably shaped differetly then ours. They could of told that just to support the absence of the old pokemon.
 
MistahDude said:
You left out arguments for NYC just letting you know. Its obvious whose side you are on.
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I'm undecided, and if you guys actually would provide me with some material I would update it. What good is saying that I left out arguments and not even giving me examples? All you guys are saying is Victini=NYC.
pokewalker said:
i have a new argument for NYC:
team plasma wants to seperate pokemon from people and let them be free. (freedom=america.)
@kirbycu please ad this to the NYC arguments
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Sorry, but I don't see how that links up. People in China hate animals?

@Magma: I'll update NYC reasons.
 
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Mraas you're not supposed to go on the NYC side, :P . I still believe in shanghai, but... We will never really find out. It will always be a mystery. They never reveal what their based on. The others have just been discovered by people staring at the map of japan to long.
 
There's a snow mountain near a fire conservation station (Top left of Isshu, they are in the same spot in New York).

W8 a mountain, i acctually checked this out on google earth, and i have not found a single spot with over 50m height in NYC area, maybe you should point it out on the map or something, or that mountain is 30m tall?

Oh and i searched for the desert road on the map of NYC and all I have found between central park and the sea are avenues and no desert road. Might be good if you provided evidence for that. And by searching google "desert road" it said there is a desert road in new zaeland, however there was no word for one being in NYC.

Hehe sorry for being doubtfull, but I always check info like this, since this topic interests me :P
 
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