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Why is everyone giving up on Pokemon

UltimateFrosty08

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    Why is everyone giving in to Yokai Watch people have no faith in Pokemon whats wrong with Pokemon. I just don't get it we shouldn't give up at this Pokemon is at its 20th anniversary and I'm planning to keep it going for another 20 years and possibly more to reach 50 years of Pokemon. I just need to know why is everyone giving up on Pokemon >:(.
     
    Why is everyone giving in to Yokai Watch people have no faith in Pokemon whats wrong with Pokemon. I just don't get it we shouldn't give up at this Pokemon is at its 20th anniversary and I'm planning to keep it going for another 20 years and possibly more to reach 50 years of Pokemon. I just need to know why is everyone giving up on Pokemon >:(.

    I agree! But this is probably best suited to Pokemon General - this forum is for questions about PokeCommunity :). Gonna ship it over there now.
     
    You're asking Pokemon fans on a Pokemon forum why they're giving up? :3

    Sales have declined as the years have gone by, yes, but performance is still incredible and whilst plenty of people are sick and tired of it by this point, plenty aren't, and Pokemon is still a huge, HUGE thing - I mean, it's got tournaments, a ridiculously long-running anime, and a terrifying amount of merchandise. If people were giving up, these things wouldn't still be going. I have no idea if we'll hit 50 years or not, but you can bet Game Freak have plans for the series going forward which goes beyond the standard-issue mothership titles.

    The industry has changed a lot over 20 years, and Pokemon has barely changed at all, so of course people are going to grumble about it. Things like Yokai Watch are hugely successful in Japan, but Pokemon is still very much in a niche all by itself, and its performing admirably. It's not in any danger of coming to an end any time soon. Let people complain all they like; it doesn't stop YOU enjoying the games, and at the end of the day that's all that matters, right?
     
    Who exactly is everyone?

    I can state for a fact that I don't know a single person in my life that owns a Yo-kai Watch game. I'd be hard-pressed to find someone I know who has even heard of the series. Comparatively speaking, Yo-kai Watch is isolated. If it grows, great. More entertainment for humanity. Not that I particularly care about it.

    Every empire collapses at some point. Whether it's in a decade, two decades, 50 years, a century or whatever. Every empire has highs and lows. That time isn't now for the Pokémon franchise.

    There's clear exaggeration along the lines of "the sky is falling" here. It's akin to people always crying out, "This game is going to kill World of WarCraft!" Every single time any MMORPG picks up any steam. Does it happen? No. WoW hasn't died. People keep thinking it's going to die every single time subscription numbers fall. But people keep coming back. New players replace old players. More expansions come out. People complain it's the same thing. But it hasn't died. I went to a few BlizzCons already. The WoW fans are still rabid and video game news outlets still drool over every bit of news.

    You can apply the same to Pokémon and every time any monster-catching, critter-befriending, 10-year-old-anime-kid-saving-the-world-with-his-creature-companions game comes out.
     
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    I don't see this whole competition with Yo-kai Watch as a bad thing in the slightest. If anything, it'll press Game Freak just a little bit into make better games. They do have that annoying tendency to erase features that are genuinely enjoyed by the majority of players for no particular reason other than to make that game stand out. Maybe a little competition will encourage them to keep some of those stronger features to give players a more worthwhile experience?
     
    Why is everyone giving in to Yokai Watch people have no faith in Pokemon whats wrong with Pokemon. I just don't get it we shouldn't give up at this Pokemon is at its 20th anniversary and I'm planning to keep it going for another 20 years and possibly more to reach 50 years of Pokemon. I just need to know why is everyone giving up on Pokemon >:(.
    People aren't giving up on pokemon, just playing something else whilst waiting on Nintendo to make a new pokemon game!
     
    I haven't been playing the games for years now, and I certainly haven't cared about the anime for aaages. But I still like pokémon and really enjoy being part of a forum where I can like this franchise with likeminded fellows. Also pokémon is a great franchise for roleplaying!
     
    because Pokemon is starting to suck, really.
     
    The real reason why noone plays pokemon anymore is because when we used to have a nintendo, the only good games would be mario or pokemon, and ever since they switched from ds to 3ds, noone thought it was worth buying a new ds just for a game of pokemon, if pokemon moves to pc(steam) or xbox/playstation, I am positive a lot of the fan base will come back, what pokemon needs is a virtual reality pc game, it will absolutely triple their sales.
     
    The people I know who quit Pokemon said that they were put off by 5th Generation, due to there being so many new Pokemon and barely any Pokemon from the previous generations (I don't believe you could even catch Pikachu in B/W 1) They also use that typical excuse that Pokemon nowadays aren't creative because of Trubbish and Klefki, though the previous gens were just as bad.
     
    Like most of the posts (especially VisualJae and Meloetta) said, Pokemon seems to always be sticking to the same formula for its games, and I tend to see that as the reason some people are leaving it behind and looking to new games to love, and that could explain why Yo-Kai Watch is surging in popularity in Japan alone. Because it brings something fresh that kids would enjoy better, and most kids want to discover new things.

    Pokemon does have a long-running anime and sells tons of merchandise, so having a franchise that's competing with it might be a way to encourage Game Freak to make the games better in the hope they don't lose fans to their competitors. But as for Bitcubes' post, I don't ever see Pokemon leaving the Nintendo platforms anytime soon, but Pokemon GO (and also Shuffle) is at least giving Pokemon a push into the mobile gaming scene.

    Pokemon still has a lot left in it, it just needs to improve so that it doesn't lose to the competition.
     
    One of the many reasons are 'growing up' or burnout. Back in the last days of GSC era, if you are known to be playing/watching Pokemon, you'd get laughed at or even bullied.
     
    One of the many reasons are 'growing up' or burnout. Back in the last days of GSC era, if you are known to be playing/watching Pokemon, you'd get laughed at or even bullied.

    I recall 3rd Gen was when a lot of people who grew up during "Pokemania" were quitting the franchise (I grew up during said era yet never played a Pokemon game until 3rd Gen) and I felt that the time when Pokemon was a fad contributed to 1st and 2nd Gen games selling more than the later generations.
     
    Everyone is not giving up on Pokemon. Some are. The games are still functionally great, but run the same formula as the originals. They should evolve at some point- yeah, keep the same basics as before, but realize that you are on an adventure. Have that matter.
     
    I feel like I may be about to give up on Pokémon, too. I've been playing less and less ever since the disaster that a certain playthrough of mine became at its end after so long trying to make it great.

    But Sun and Moon did excite me, I won't lie. Not to mention I do have the main series games and it would be sad to just end my time with them on such a sad note. I also still have Super Mystery Dungeon, and the sad truth is that I just don't really have much else to do with my time. ):
     
    I haven't been playing the games for years now, and I certainly haven't cared about the anime for aaages. But I still like pokémon and really enjoy being part of a forum where I can like this franchise with likeminded fellows. Also pokémon is a great franchise for roleplaying!

    Might as well report you for stealing my words! Exactly what I was gonna say. Haven't really liked the games since X/Y and I haven't watched the anime since the beginning of Black/White, though I still really, really like discussing the franchise as a whole. I dunno - there's just something to talk about Pokemon for me.

    Extending on what I've quoted, beyond roleplaying, there's other creative things you can do with Pokemon. To answer the question posed in thread title, it's natural to quit things like these if you're "grown up" - or otherwise burned out of whatever it is. I'm kind of in the middle of this, though Sun/Moon's rekindled my interest and quite possibly a lot of other people's.

    Apologies for any poor English, it's almost half-past 1 in the morning. Just wanted to pay up my two cents.
     
    My sense is that Yokai Watch has caught on a lot more in Japan than it has here. Maybe it's a lot more popular with the younger demographic here, but I don't personally know anyone who plays it. (Then again, I only know a couple of "real life" people who play Pokemon these days, so my sample size is pretty small.) I wonder if a lot of the issue is that Pokemon has aged, and the fan base has aged. A lot of people who used to love it have outgrown it, but for younger kids today, it isn't new, and there isn't a Pokemon craze like there was back in the days of RBY and the early anime. Before much longer, Pokemon may run into the issue among kids that it's something their parents played, which may make it inherently uncool.

    I don't personally see the appeal of Yokai Watch, though I'll admit that I've avoided even playing the demo thus far because I don't want to do anything to hurt my favorite franchise. I'm pretty happy with Pokemon the way it is, and I don't want it to get driven down the drain. Fortunately, it seems to be fending off Yokai fairly well so far, but I do wonder what changes GF may make to try to make the series appeal more to a wider demographic. Some data I saw suggested that a large portion of Pokemon early adopters are young adults now, the people who grew up the game, and something will likely need to be done to draw more people into the series. I just hope any simplifications don't wreck the things I love about the series (like Nintendo seems to be doing with some other franchises I love [*cough* Paper Mario *cough*]).

    I think re-releasing RBY was a good move to bring some older fans back, though. I get the sense a lot of people picked up one of those games to relive their childhoods, and once they get hooked, there's a good chance they'll go looking for a newer entry, either XY or ORAS. The link between RBY and Sun/Moon may draw more people in as well.

    Personally, I hope Pokemon lives forever, and I hope GF and Nintendo do nothing to screw it up in the meantime.
     
    "Everyone" is a very strong word here.

    The negative always seems to stand out more than the positive. Pokemon is nowhere near dying. Its fanbase is strong and going strong.

    The Pokemon Company will need to revamp their style in the upcoming years. For example, I can't seem myself traveling around with whatever handheld device in the future. They'll need to adjust to the masses. Pokemon application on your mobile device? I can dig that idea. I wouldn't mind playing on the iPhone.

    I'm sure we can run many ideas on how they can improve. However, Pokemon is here to stay. With an existing and growing fanbase every year, it's hard not imagining Pokemon in the foreseeable future. I'm excited to see how the company will grow and adapt for the generations to come.
     
    Soo... You are saying people can't have opinions?

    Bear in mind: Pokemon isn't perdect. I believe there is no such thing as a perfect franchise, I just like Pokemon the most because I find it interesting. I used to get confused why people were starting to lose fath in it, but now looking back, it's just that people have different tastes. If they think Pokemon is starting to fall back, then that's on to them. You should just try ignoring them and focus on yourself.
     
    I'm not sure that people are giving up on Pokemon at any faster of a rate than any other long-running franchise. Where one person loses interest, another picks it up. I'm not worried, and none of you should be, either.
     
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