6th Gen X/Y Third Version Speculation Thread

[shadowmoon522]

The conquest has begun!
years from now, Nintendo shall absorb Sony, Microsoft & Apple....
and "elite" PlayStation & Xbox players will never see it as being possible til its to late...

Golden rule of life: never underestimate your rivals.

 

[Famon]

Mega Machamp possible due to that whole power belt sealing its power thing. as for dialga & palkia that would technically be a primal reversion. Giratina has absolutly no need for a mega evolution and it's forum change is practically a primal reversion

now as foe that whole mega arceus thing, look at the pokedex

look at all those arms
so it is possible that it has another form or its arms are like that of the diclonius from elfen lied

I think , The power belt theory is only exclusive to PokeSpe Manga Machamp.
Also , I think Arceus has a Primal form that has 1000 arm .

 

[Sopheria]

Wow that's quite a large speculation going on here.
It would be hilarious if they eventually just release a normal 3rd version LOL

What is a normal 3rd version though? Essentially every 3rd version since RSE has had a divergent plot (even if slightly so) and additional features that the other two didn't have. So we know the third version(s?) will have at least that :P

Also, does anyone else remember this?

Spoiler:

What do you guys think? It's not that often in a Pokemon game that they'd foreshadow the next generation of main series games this early.

 

[Sun]

What is a normal 3rd version though? Essentially every 3rd version since RSE has had a divergent plot (even if slightly so) and additional features that the other two didn't have. So we know the third version(s?) will have at least that :P

Also, does anyone else remember this?

Spoiler:

What do you guys think? It's not that often in a Pokemon game that they'd foreshadow the next generation of main series games this early.

There were slight and light debates of that region as a Gen 7 region or a Gen 6.5 one.

But here's a new thought, what if it's something like the Sevii Islands?

 

[Rivvon]

There were slight and light debates of that region as a Gen 7 region or a Gen 6.5 one.

But here's a new thought, what if it's something like the Sevii Islands?

I feel like it's foreshadowing something a bit more "significant" than a post-game area. By that I mean, that NPC says different things when you speak to him...it's been a very long time since I've done his little "side-quest," but I clearly remember he told me "You should see our Champion!" and "We have a really cool battle facility," something along those lines. A battle facility could be included in a post-game area, as they usually are; however, having a Champion would imply that they have a Gym league system of some sort, and likely present themselves as their own full-blown region.

It would be a stretch, but maybe the upcoming Pokémon game will feature Kalos and a new post-game region? That would be the only thing I can think of that would connect this NPC to the upcoming game; otherwise, I feel we will have to wait to visit his mysterious new region.




It was recently announced that we would be getting a Nintendo Direct in some form before the year is over. The details are, of course, very vague at this point, but there's a possibility for a Pokémon-related announcement, even if it turns out to be a "General Nintendo" Direct. Or would Nintendo save their Pokémon announcements for a full-blown "Pokémon 20th Anniversary" Direct, similar to the one they used to announce X & Y? I hope we get more details on the Direct soon!

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Masuda posted something rather vague, Google Translate shows it as "Stock Pokemon --> Game Freak, Now!" whereas Bing shows it as "Share Pokemon --> freak, now!" Original tweet:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Junichi_Masuda/status/659210393500303360

But then, I came across this interesting piece of news:

https://www.nintendo-insider.com/2015/10/27/game-freak-acquire-smartphone-developer-koa-games/

Have no idea if the two are related or not... but his tweet kind of struck me random in a funny way. If he's talking about Game Freak buying that company, you would think the tweet would be worded a little more professional.

He does say Game freak. Now I had to look up the Kanji as it was one I'm not familiar with and it does seem to mean stock as in the kind that is traded in stock markets. So it sounds like he wants people to invest in GF...

 

[Sun]

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Sorry for the confusion, I don't mean a post game area. What I mean by 'Sevii Island' like is a completely new region that is close to the Kalos region. Think GSC/HGSS, but instead of new region going to the formerly explored region, we go the other way round (old region > new region) but without completing the game.

Maybe we go to Couriway Town after receiving our second badge from Wulfric? {XD} It's funny, we can travel in a new direction: Vaniville Town > Aquacorde Town‎ > Santalune City > Snowbelle City > Couriway Town (has railway towards a new region) and so on, we might also go back and fourth between Kalos and Region Z.

Who knows, this region could be sharing the same league as Kanto and Johto? Meaning we can mix up badges from 2 regions in order to enter the Pokemon League?

We might meet Squishy in Santalune Forest? Maybe we'll be able learn more about Squishy in Region Z? :D

 

[WingsofBliss]

Interesting post on Serebii:

https://www.serebiiforums.com/showt...OST-POKEMON-NEWS-HERE&p=17831552#post17831552

IIRC, wasn't ORAS announced during an investor's meeting much like this one? Or was it another set of games?

 

[janejane6178]

Interesting post on Serebii:

https://www.serebiiforums.com/showt...OST-POKEMON-NEWS-HERE&p=17831552#post17831552

IIRC, wasn't ORAS announced during an investor's meeting much like this one? Or was it another set of games?

Do you think there is a good chance for an announcment today then?

 

[Unown Seer]

Nintendo have already said what they're going to announce tomorrow: their first smartphone game.

Sorry for the confusion, I don't mean a post game area. What I mean by 'Sevii Island' like is a completely new region that is close to the Kalos region.

The Strange Souvenir's description specifically refers to a region that is far from Kalos.

 

[janejane6178]

Nintendo have already said what they're going to announce tomorrow: their first smartphone game.


The Strange Souvenir's description specifically refers to a region that is far from Kalos.

Great, so another side game..
How suprising.

 

[Sun]

Nintendo have already said what they're going to announce tomorrow: their first smartphone game.


The Strange Souvenir's description specifically refers to a region that is far from Kalos.

Johto has been officially called as 'far' in Kanto games (FRLG, slightly in HGSS).

When I said near, I actually meant the real life distance between France and UK. And why those 2 countries in particular? Please read the older pages, thanks.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

Great, so another side game..
How suprising.

It's not a Side game as most likely it's not going to be a Pokemon game xD. Remember Nintendo has more than Pokemon. It could be a Mario game, a Zelda game, or anything else, including a new IP.

Well something that was said in the meeting that could give us hope is that the president mentioned at the investor meeting that there will be another Nintendo Direct before year's end. We could get Z announced there. I heard speculation that most likely it'll be in December, they made it sound like there's usually one in December. I'll go to the Direct archive to see if that's correct.

Edit: Alright, so it seems like there's usually one in either November or December since they started doing them, some years even both months have had Directs (some mini some large).

 

[WingsofBliss]

If the next Nintendo Direct is where we'll hear an announcement, I wonder if it's going to be before the 15th of November. This is under the assumption that Masuda's appearance on Pokenchi is going to be centered around it, though.


I can almost feel myself turning into a skeleton right now... just in time for Halloween.

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

If the next Nintendo Direct is where we'll hear an announcement, I wonder if it's going to be before the 15th of November. This is under the assumption that Masuda's appearance on Pokenchi is going to be centered around it, though.


I can almost feel myself turning into a skeleton right now... just in time for Halloween.

Currently it's to be announced but it could happen before the 15th as sometimes they wait until the last day (the day before they show the direct) to announce the date. It's also possible that the Direct could simply have more Pokemon stuff in addition to what Corocoro and Pokenchi will have. I also expect Pokemon GO to be covered in the Direct.

 

[Z25]

I think that if any Event legend from another region could be connected to the Kalos War it is Deoxys...it's possible that the ultimate weapon hit a virus. In real life there is a theory that viruses influenced and actually might be a driver of evolution, as as we know Mega Stones came about from the Ultimate weapon's effects on the environment. So it's possible that Mega Stones have a little of Deoxys in them...

So for you your speculation is 50/50? I think that there's a higher chance for a Delta Emerald and Z pair rather than Delta Z, especially as the coding of OrAs has two placement holders which implies two versions. It could be that the other one is Pokemon GO, especially since they mentioned it has a connection (pretty sure they meant it can connect to them rather than story wise )to the main games.

I definitely see Deoxys coming into play based on how the game implies the ultimate weapon created him. I could see two versions. Either way the story will probably tie kalos and hoenn together plot wise.

 

[shadowmoon522]

Interesting post on Serebii:

https://www.serebiiforums.com/showt...OST-POKEMON-NEWS-HERE&p=17831552#post17831552

IIRC, wasn't ORAS announced during an investor's meeting much like this one? Or was it another set of games?

ah yes, one of the reasons i stopped visiting serebii's forums
they hardly ever work

The Strange Souvenir's description specifically refers to a region that is far from Kalos.

where has it ever been stated that kalos was anywhere near the other regions? even in the anime ash had to get there by plane & we can only guess at how long that took.
lets go by what each region is based on
kanto, johto, hoenn & sinnoh are based on parts of japan.
unova is based on NYC
orre is based on phoenix, arizona
Lt surge clearly states he's a member of the united states army, so there probably a usa region with arizona & NYC not existing in it. well, either that or theres 52 regions linked together as a country or alliance of some sort that acts as a parallel to the real life usa.
and mew was first discovered in south america
so odds are there are some regions which have the same name as their real life parallel.
it's not like video games, anime & manga haven't done the same.
and finally kalos which is based on france & jersy.
france is no where near japan nor the usa in irl.
additionally, it takes 11 hours 45 mins to get from paris to tokyo
so i highly doubt any of the other regions are anywhere near kalos.

Anyways... yeah, I do think it's strange for them to hint at a future region, foreign Item gift included, so early in a Generation. IIRC, that's about the most blatant foreshadowing we've gotten when it comes to the future of the main series games. What I don't understand is why give us a mysterious Item like the SS when they could have easily just left the Backpacker's quote as-is.

Between the SS and the Zygarde info, it's like Game Freak wants us to go crazy with speculation until our spleens burst into flames.

it was stated that Fantina is not from sinnoh, hoenn, johto, orre or kanto & was from a region that spoke french.
gen 6 was foreshadowed in gen 4.
odds are kalos & unova where planned years before their release. i wouldn't be surprised if ninteno already has a template for gen 8 laid out.
that's right, i said it: gen eight. the pokedex number might reach a 1000 with that gen.

 

[WingsofBliss]

ah yes, one of the reasons i stopped visiting serebii's forums
they hardly ever work

Judging by the screenshot, it looks like you're using Windows XP. Either your computer or your web browser might not be up to date on whichever software Serebii is currently running on. But yeah, the only news that came out of it is that there will be at least one Nintendo Direct before the end of this year. Let's keep our fingers crossed for the next two months to finally hear something(hopefully).

 

[OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire]

ah yes, one of the reasons i stopped visiting serebii's forums
they hardly ever work

where has it ever been stated that kalos was anywhere near the other regions? even in the anime ash had to get there by plane & we can only guess at how long that took.
lets go by what each region is based on
kanto, johto, hoenn & sinnoh are based on parts of japan.
unova is based on NYC
orre is based on phoenix, arizona
Lt surge clearly states he's a member of the united states army, so there probably a usa region with arizona & NYC not existing in it. well, either that or theres 52 regions linked together as a country or alliance of some sort that acts as a parallel to the real life usa.
and mew was first discovered in south america
so odds are there are some regions which have the same name as their real life parallel.
it's not like video games, anime & manga haven't done the same.
and finally kalos which is based on france & jersy.
france is no where near japan nor the usa in irl.
additionally, it takes 11 hours 45 mins to get from paris to tokyo
so i highly doubt any of the other regions are anywhere near kalos.

it was stated that Fantina is not from sinnoh, hoenn, johto, orre or kanto & was from a region that spoke french.
gen 6 was foreshadowed in gen 4.
odds are kalos & unova where planned years before their release. i wouldn't be surprised if ninteno already has a template for gen 8 laid out.
that's right, i said it: gen eight. the pokedex number might reach a 1000 with that gen.

In the Japanese version she spoke english...

 

[WingsofBliss]

m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=183334181

Supposedly this happened. Unfortunately, you'll have to copy-paste the link to make it work. IIRC, the official website does state that there's more than one Core in existence:

"At this stage, this aspect of Zygarde is little more than a part of the Pokémon's brain. Unlike the Cells, the Cores are self-aware and can communicate with Cells and other Cores via telepathy. When a change occurs in the local region's ecosystem, Cores have been known to take action."

I wonder if we'll have to collect not just Cells in-game, but other Cores as well? What do the A and B Cores mentioned above mean?