*A Freshly Scented Garden* Grass-type Club

[Hikamaru]

I think the reasoning behind that was that, as a Grass/Dragon type, Mega Sceptile only takes 1/4 normal damage from Electric attacks, and gains a small boost in return.

Loool which is useless. Lightning Rod immunizes the users from getting hit by Electric moves, and no it doesn't act as the Justified Ability. XD

There is actually a logical reason why Mega Sceptile has this ability, because its tail is based on a conifer tree and they are known to draw lightning to them. The ability does have its competitive use as well, especially in double and triple battles where it can easily protect any Water or Flying-type teammates that usually get threatened by Electric-types.

 

[Sun]

There is actually a logical reason why Mega Sceptile has this ability, because its tail is based on a conifer tree and they are known to draw lightning to them. The ability does have its competitive use as well, especially in double and triple battles where it can easily protect any Water or Flying-type teammates that usually get threatened by Electric-types.

Now this is what I call discussion. (:

 

[LilyGardy]

Spoiler:

Ooh, I'm going to remember that and try it out. :)

My thoughts on the line...well, I've never really used the Treecko line actually. My favorite starter to use from Hoenn is Torchic and it's evolutionary family. There have been occasions where I've used Sceptile at the Battle Maison on X/Y though and I was actually a little disappointed... I feel that there are better Grass types to use. Like Gogoat, to name one.

The design, on the other hand, I absolutely love! I'm a huge fan of reptiles, so to see this evolutionary line (an adorable little gecko growing into this badass-looking, tree-jumping lizard thing) put a big grin on my face. As for moveset, I never really looked at what it could learn, even when choosing moves for my Battle Maison Sceptile... It seems to be at least decent enough, though.

The very first thing I thought when I looked at Mega Sceptile was 'Holy crap, it's got a Christmas tree growing out of its butt!' ... ... ... Yeeeaaah. I prefer Sceptile's normal design.

Spoiler:

I am somewhat surprised there are not more Grass Types that appear in the Contests considering some have great movesets for them. There is an Aroma Lady with a Vileplume but I think that is about it.

I was surprised to see on Bulbapedia that Lilligant can learn Hyper Beam and Giga Impact. Not moves that exactly fit the Grass Princess Pokemon but could put a different spin on Contests.

The tail reminds me somewhat of a Harpoon but a Christmas Tree is a fitting comparison particularly at this time of year.

Spoiler:

I can verify they aren't combination moves in Contest Spectacular.

The thoughts: The Treecko line;s Gothet's favorite starter family from the Hoenn region! XD

The designs are actually good, though a bit mismatched on the learnable movesets, in terms of botth competitve and slightly on the in-game side.

I actually love it and better it is looking than M-Swampert! In terms of usability, they aren't that good. :/ They could have given M-Sceptile Adaptability or something useful than Lightning Rod. Lightning Rod isn't that useless, but it is for a Pokemon with the Grass/Dragon typing.

Spoiler:

I know Sunny Day still combos with some moves. I am guessing Solarbeam and maybe Energy Ball.

Yes, very true the Treecko were also the first Grass Starters I ever chose.

Mega Stampert reminds me of a tank. Mega Sceptile looks very cool particularly in his Shiny Form.

Spoiler:

There is actually a logical reason why Mega Sceptile has this ability, because its tail is based on a conifer tree and they are known to draw lightning to them. The ability does have its competitive use as well, especially in double and triple battles where it can easily protect any Water or Flying-type teammates that usually get threatened by Electric-types.

Spoiler:

So I can pair Mega Sceptile with say a Gyarados and the Forest Pokemon can absorb all the Electric moves and protect Gyarados? I need to try that.

My thoughts on the Treecko line

I really like the design of the line overall. Treecko starts as a small Gecko and becomes more imposing as he evolves with plant life being added to him with the bulbs on Sceptile's back being notable.

In a type which has several underwhelming or just plain bad Shinys the Treecko line stand out as all having excellent Shinys. My favourite of the line is Shiny Sceptile, the dark green and the red colours really pop and the Yellow is a nice contrast. I have one I obtained in a trade but I might MM for another Shiny Treecko one day. :)

I have never looked at his moveset but I find Sceptile to be fun to use. The Mega adds a new dimension to him.

My first thoughts on Mega Sceptile were 'why is his back turned?' The design is very cool particularly the changed to the tail and the added bulbs. He also grows 6 inches to 6' 3'' when he Mega Evolves.

 

[Sun]

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So what plant/animal should they based on for the Gen 7 Grass-type starter?

 

[Hikamaru]

So what plant/animal should they based on for the Gen 7 Grass-type starter?

I could imagine a lot of different plant/animal combinations (blame me for seeing some great design potential on Fakemon designs) they could go with for the next generation Grass-type starter. I wouldn't mind another mammal, since we all know Chespin finally broke the reptilian trend.

 

[LilyGardy]

So what plant/animal should they based on for the Gen 7 Grass-type starter?

Let's see so far we have had two Dinosaurs, a gecko, a turtle, a snake and a chipmunk.

The starters tend to follow a red/blue/green coloration for fire, water and Grass respectively.

Based on this the animal I would go with would be a starter Pokemon based on the Red-Eyed tree frog.

There have been frog Pokemon before but none has been Grass-type.

The starter would be a stylised interpretation of the frog being green with red eyes and Blue accents. It would be a bright green to stand out. It would be bipedal. It's stats would be high Attack and speed but low defenses, a glass Cannon if you will.

It's evolved forms would become slightly more plant like similar to the Venusaur and Torterra lines. As it evolves it's defences will rise somewhat but it's speed will fall.

It's Shiny Forms will be white but keeping the red eyes referencing albino morphs of frogs.

 

[Rain T.]

Based on this the animal I would go with would be a starter Pokemon based on the Red-Eyed tree frog.

There have been frog Pokemon before but none has been Grass-type.

The starter would be a stylised interpretation of the frog being green with red eyes and Blue accents. It would be a bright green to stand out. It would be bipedal. It's stats would be high Attack and speed but low defenses, a glass Cannon if you will.

It's evolved forms would become slightly more plant like similar to the Venusaur and Torterra lines. As it evolves it's defences will rise somewhat but it's speed will fall.

It's Shiny Forms will be white but keeping the red eyes referencing albino morphs of frogs.

Sounds like a Grass starter I'd try out.

 

[Killua]

Hey I want to enter.

Partner: Snivy

favorite: Erika

Why I love grass types: They are great supporters and most of them are Bulky, I love sleep powdering stronger pokes with it.

I would love a Starter who is Faster an Has a Psychic side typing, somethin like a cat and becoming a leopard, fast with some good supporting and offensive moves with psychic side typing.

 

[LilyGardy]

Hey I want to enter.

Partner: Snivy

favorite: Erika

Why I love grass types: They are great supporters and most of them are Bulky, I love sleep powdering stronger pokes with it.

I would love a Starter who is Faster an Has a Psychic side typing, somethin like a cat and becoming a leopard, fast with some good supporting and offensive moves with psychic side typing.

Welcome to the Club. :)

Snivy is a great choice of partner and his fully evolved form is a very regal looking snake.

Your suggested starter sounds like a counterpart to Liepard. Whilst we get a new cat Pokemon nearly every Generation we are yet to have a Grass Type Cat.

Whilst Grass/Psychic are my two favourite types I am unsure about having it on a Pokémon due to the high number of weaknesses. A fleet footed cat Pokemon could however be a lot of fun to use and be a counterpart to Gen 6 Grass Starter Chesnaught.

 

[ddrox13]

- Your nickname: ddrox13, aka inigomontoya

- Your Grass-Type Club-Campaign Partner: Snivy (female, as all Snivys must be female and have a Sassy nature to be appropriate)

- Reason for joining the club: I figure I might as well join, I need SOMEWHERE to discuss Roserade and Torterra's sheer awesomeness with others who appreciate it, since the Hoenn fanboys can't stand them and the Sinnoh people like Chimchar anyway :(

- Answer to the current topic: I'm not the biggest fan of the Sceptile line as a whole, it is my least favorite Grass starter line. It is still my second Hoenn line, because I have vowed never to pick Torchic, and I will be picking it up when I get to emerald in my Grass Ultimate Monotype.

Oh, gen 7 starter? I like the Tree Frog idea, but the Greninja line has kinda frogged me out. No ideas yet design wise, but a Grass/Ice starter would make my day, despite the 4x fire weakness.

Also, does anyone have any design ideas for a Grass/Fire pokemon? I believe that, with the introduction of M-Sceptile's Dragon typing, Fire is the one secondary type not accounted for on a Grass type (Bulbapedia approves).

 

[LilyGardy]

Spoiler:

Your nickname: ddrox13, aka inigomontoya

- Your Grass-Type Club-Campaign Partner: Snivy (female, as all Snivys must be female and have a Sassy nature to be appropriate)

- Reason for joining the club: I figure I might as well join, I need SOMEWHERE to discuss Roserade and Torterra's sheer awesomeness with others who appreciate it, since the Hoenn fanboys can't stand them and the Sinnoh people like Chimchar anyway :(

- Answer to the current topic: I'm not the biggest fan of the Sceptile line as a whole, it is my least favorite Grass starter line. It is still my second Hoenn line, because I have vowed never to pick Torchic, and I will be picking it up when I get to emerald in my Grass Ultimate Monotype.

Oh, gen 7 starter? I like the Tree Frog idea, but the Greninja line has kinda frogged me out. No ideas yet design wise, but a Grass/Ice starter would make my day, despite the 4x fire weakness.

Also, does anyone have any design ideas for a Grass/Fire pokemon? I believe that, with the introduction of M-Sceptile's Dragon typing, Fire is the one secondary type not accounted for on a Grass type (Bulbapedia approves).

Spoiler:

Welcome to the Club. :) A Sassy Female Snivy has been added to your team.

Whilst Sinnoh is by my least favourite Region it was actually a Great Gen for Grass Types. The Torterra line and the Grass/Ground typing was a welcome change for starters and the addition of Roserade and Budew really helped the Roselia line. Indeed in many playthroughs I have a Roserade on my team including my recent Unova White 2 Monotype. Toxic and Venoshock is a deadly combination.

The Ice/Grass Snover types were part of Sinnoh too as was the Cherrim line which the form change was a nice touch, even Carnivine had something unique for him in Levitate.

Sinnoh is also the region Gardenia was part of. My favourite Grass Leader and one of my favourite Leaders in the entire series.

I have also done a few Grass Monotypes. I have completed Kanto (Red), Unova (White 2) and just have to beat Red in Heart Gold. Then I will likely do a 'Gardenia Run' on Pearl. (I.E. Just using Gardenia's Pokemon team).

A Grass/Ice Starter? Maybe it could be a cuter form of the Abomasnow line or a Grass Penguin.

Your final paragraph sounds good for a new topic:

There has never been a Grass/Fire Type. What should it's design be like? Would it be a new species or an evolution of an existing Pokemon?

 

[Hikamaru]

There has never been a Grass/Fire Type. What should it's design be like? Would it be a new species or an evolution of an existing Pokemon?

I'd likely picture it as a new species, and after seeing a Fakemon pic a while ago I think a burning tree could be a neat concept for the type. The fact it'll only have three weaknesses (Poison, Flying, Rock) means it's not weak to much as well, along with cancelling out a lot of Grass's common weaknesses.

 

[ddrox13]

Whilst Sinnoh is by my least favourite Region it was actually a Great Gen for Grass Types. The Torterra line and the Grass/Ground typing was a welcome change for starters and the addition of Roserade and Budew really helped the Roselia line. Indeed in many playthroughs I have a Roserade on my team including my recent Unova White 2 Monotype. Toxic and Venoshock is a deadly combination.

The Ice/Grass Snover types were part of Sinnoh too as was the Cherrim line which the form change was a nice touch, even Carnivine had something unique for him in Levitate.

Sinnoh is also the region Gardenia was part of. My favourite Grass Leader and one of my favourite Leaders in the entire series.

I have also done a few Grass Monotypes. I have completed Kanto (Red), Unova (White 2) and just have to beat Red in Heart Gold. Then I will likely do a 'Gardenia Run' on Pearl. (I.E. Just using Gardenia's Pokemon team).

A Grass/Ice Starter? Maybe it could be a cuter form of the Abomasnow line or a Grass Penguin.
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Roserade is a boss. No questions asked. If nothing else, it ended up in my Diamond monotype with effectively 7 types of attacks (compliments of me running tri-weather with Weather Ball). It basically won me every battle from Fantina to the last Rival battle. Torterra almost single handedly beat the elite 4 for me compliments of lots of hax and Hyper Potions, sooo...

A Diamond/Pearl Grass mono is basically is a Gardenia run with the small exception of I get Abomasnow (and Worma-G). Ok, mabye that is a big exception (something something Cynthia's Garchomp). Whatever.

Gardenia is probably my favorite Sinnoh leader (and overall, for that matter), which is 100% not due to her OP as hell (515 BST) Roserade, who you are always underleveled for.

There has never been a Grass/Fire Type. What should it's design be like? Would it be a new species or an evolution of an existing Pokemon?

I'd likely picture it as a new species, and after seeing a Fakemon pic a while ago I think a burning tree could be a neat concept for the type. The fact it'll only have three weaknesses (Poison, Flying, Rock) means it's not weak to much as well, along with cancelling out a lot of Grass's common weaknesses.

That. I was almost thinking about some recoloration of Venusaur to make it's flower look like a M-Camureptish volcano. Or a Carnivine evolution, it damn well needs one

ALSO, I got bored while writing an english essay and decided to cram as many Grass types as would fit into a .psd file. I have elected to share the end result. Not my best work, but w/e. waaay too many pokemon in one image.

 

[LilyGardy]

Spoiler:

Roserade is a boss. No questions asked. If nothing else, it ended up in my Diamond monotype with effectively 7 types of attacks (compliments of me running tri-weather with Weather Ball). It basically won me every battle from Fantina to the last Rival battle. Torterra almost single handedly beat the elite 4 for me compliments of lots of hax and Hyper Potions, sooo...

A Diamond/Pearl Grass mono is basically is a Gardenia run with the small exception of I get Abomasnow (and Worma-G). Ok, mabye that is a big exception (something something Cynthia's Garchomp). Whatever.

Gardenia is probably my favorite Sinnoh leader (and overall, for that matter), which is 100% not due to her OP as hell (515 BST) Roserade, who you are always underleveled for.


That. I was almost thinking about some recoloration of Venusaur to make it's flower look like a M-Camureptish volcano

ALSO, I got bored while writing an english essay and decided to cram as many Grass types as would fit into a .psd file. I have elected to share the end result. Not my best work, but w/e. waaay too many pokemon in one image.

Spoiler:

From what I remember of facing the Sinnoh Leaders in the Unova Games PWT Tournament there is nothing there to particularly worry about for a Grass User other than maybe Candice and with a Fire Weather Ball she isn't too tough. Incidentally the toughest Sinnoh Leader for me in said Tournament...Gardenia.

In the Unova Games as well as her usual Pokemon she may use Breloom, Tropius, Tangrowth, Leafeon and Carnivine but surprisingly not Abomasnow.

Gardenia was one difficulty spike in the Sinnoh games. Not only did she had a Fully Evolved 3 stage Pokemon at an early part of the game and a starter, you must beat all her Gym Trainers too. Unless you have a type advantage you are in for a battle.

Getting a Cherrim from the Honey Trees may well take a while. Most of the time the Honey trees give you a Combee which is likely male so can't evolve and is a bug type so can't be used in a Grass Monotype anyway. I think the Bagworm Pokemon can only be found in trees too. I have never used Wormadam.

Carnivine does need an evolution. At the moment it is just there and only has Levitate to make it unique among Grass Types. Tropius could really use an Evolution of some description too.

I cannot see the image.

Answer to Topic

A Grass/Fire Type could be a possible evolution of Pumpkaboo which is based on a Jack-O-lanturn. It could evolve by being traded whilst holding a Heat Rock for example.

It could resemble its side evolution Gourgeist but being more fireball like. As Hikamaru says the fire typing would help the Pokemon. Since Sunny Weather powers ups both fire and Grass moves it would be an excellent Pokemon to have on a Sun team.

 

[Rain T.]

There has never been a Grass/Fire Type. What should it's design be like? Would it be a new species or an evolution of an existing Pokemon?

I'd likely picture it as a new species, and after seeing a Fakemon pic a while ago I think a burning tree could be a neat concept for the type. The fact it'll only have three weaknesses (Poison, Flying, Rock) means it's not weak to much as well, along with cancelling out a lot of Grass's common weaknesses.

A burning tree was the first idea I had as well. XD I'd make it either a new species or a Mega form for Trevenant, in which it swaps out the Ghost type for Fire, but the flames are ghostly/eerie.

 

[Sun]

- Your nickname: ddrox13, aka inigomontoya

- Your Grass-Type Club-Campaign Partner: Snivy (female, as all Snivys must be female and have a Sassy nature to be appropriate)

- Reason for joining the club: I figure I might as well join, I need SOMEWHERE to discuss Roserade and Torterra's sheer awesomeness with others who appreciate it, since the Hoenn fanboys can't stand them and the Sinnoh people like Chimchar anyway :(

- Answer to the current topic: I'm not the biggest fan of the Sceptile line as a whole, it is my least favorite Grass starter line. It is still my second Hoenn line, because I have vowed never to pick Torchic, and I will be picking it up when I get to emerald in my Grass Ultimate Monotype.

Oh, gen 7 starter? I like the Tree Frog idea, but the Greninja line has kinda frogged me out. No ideas yet design wise, but a Grass/Ice starter would make my day, despite the 4x fire weakness.

Also, does anyone have any design ideas for a Grass/Fire pokemon? I believe that, with the introduction of M-Sceptile's Dragon typing, Fire is the one secondary type not accounted for on a Grass type (Bulbapedia approves).

I love Roserade a lot and she was even my signature Grass-type Pokemon from Gen IV to Gen V. Hopefully we'll get to see a Mega Evolution for it.

[/spoiler]

There has never been a Grass/Fire Type. What should it's design be like? Would it be a new species or an evolution of an existing Pokemon?

Sunflora needs an evolution, that is Grass/Fire. If an evolution is impossible, there's always Mega Evolution!

 

[ddrox13]

[/Spoiler]
Gardenia was one difficulty spike in the Sinnoh games. Not only did she had a Fully Evolved 3 stage Pokemon at an early part of the game and a starter, you must beat all her Gym Trainers too. Unless you have a type advantage you are in for a battle.

Getting a Cherrim from the Honey Trees may well take a while. Most of the time the Honey trees give you a Combee which is likely male so can't evolve and is a bug type so can't be used in a Grass Monotype anyway. I think the Bagworm Pokemon can only be found in trees too. I have never used Wormadam.

Carnivine does need an evolution. At the moment it is just there and only has Levitate to make it unique among Grass Types. Tropius could really use an Evolution of some description too.

I cannot see the image.

Have a type advantage or have an overlevelled +4Atk +4Def Grotle (Citation: My monograss)
I got super lucky in said monograss and got a Female Burmy and a Cherubi on my first two trees. Luckily the Valley Windworks tree was one of my Munchlax trees, almost tripling the chance of getting a Cherubi if I recall correctly. Womadam is fun to use... if you can get it Trash Cloak. Having an early game Bug-Steel is huge, and it gets a couple good Steel STABs (At least in XY). Tropius also needs an evo. I never have used Tropius or Carnivine, but I love the former's design (less so for the vine).

Yea, screw the Imgur block at school. This should work better.

Almost everyone looks happy to be there. Except maybe Abomasnow. I assure you, that is Torterra's happy face. The middle looks a little crowded, but whatever...

I love Roserade a lot and she was even my signature Grass-type Pokemon from Gen IV to Gen V. Hopefully we'll get to see a Mega Evolution for it.

Sunflora needs an evolution, that is Grass/Fire. If an evolution is impossible, there's always Mega Evolution!

I have always loved the concept and design of Roserade. I never ended up getting to use it until my recent Monograss (evolving Budew is too much work). Also, I really should have thought of Sunflora. That would be another really good recipient of a grass/fire evo.

IN OTHER NEWS: I caught a Shiny Tangela in my FireRed Monograss. It looks soooo much better in it's green shiny form.

 

[LilyGardy]

Spoiler:

I love Roserade a lot and she was even my signature Grass-type Pokemon from Gen IV to Gen V. Hopefully we'll get to see a Mega Evolution for it.

Sunflora needs an evolution, that is Grass/Fire. If an evolution is impossible, there's always Mega Evolution!

Spoiler:

Who is your signature Grass Pokémon now?

Ah yes, Sunflora, the Sunflower Pokémon. I have never actually used Sunflora as I am not a fan of its design. It's evolution method does not help it either as I tend to use my Sun Stones (Which aren't the easiest things to get hold of) elsewhere.

It says a lot that in my Johto and Unova Monotypes where the Sunkern line can be obtained early on it did not get in either team.

A Grass/Fire Evolution for Sunflora makes a lot of sense as it would give it some spotlight particularly as its ability is Solar Power.

I saw some Fakemon art for a Mega Lilligant which was Grass/Fire. It was based on an Arabian Dancer and could get Mystical Fire. :)

Spoiler:

Have a type advantage or have an overlevelled +4Atk +4Def Grotle (Citation: My monograss)
I got super lucky in said monograss and got a Female Burmy and a Cherubi on my first two trees. Luckily the Valley Windworks tree was one of my Munchlax trees, almost tripling the chance of getting a Cherubi if I recall correctly. Womadam is fun to use... if you can get it Trash Cloak. Having an early game Bug-Steel is huge, and it gets a couple good Steel STABs (At least in XY). Tropius also needs an evo. I never have used Tropius or Carnivine, but I love the former's design (less so for the vine).

Yea, screw the Imgur block at school. This should work better.

Almost everyone looks happy to be there. Except maybe Abomasnow. I assure you, that is Torterra's happy face. The middle looks a little crowded, but whatever...


I have always loved the concept and design of Roserade. I never ended up getting to use it until my recent Monograss (evolving Budew is too much work). Also, I really should have thought of Sunflora. That would be another really good recipient of a grass/fire evo.

IN OTHER NEWS: I caught a Shiny Tangela in my FireRed Monograss. It looks soooo much better in it's green shiny form.

Spoiler:

In my Platinum run my starter was Piplup. If I remember correctly I imported a Vulpix in to get past Gardenia. When I get round to my Pearl Gardenia run she will be an early challenge.

I forgot Wormadam is a Female only species. Tropius and Carnivine are both in the awkward doesn't evolve category and in my Unova Monotype were available far too late to really do much with. Grass/Flying is a unique combination and a Tropius evolution would be interesting to see.

I really like that picture. Most of them do look very happy especially Whimsicott.I am particularly pleased to see my favourite Grass-type Lilligant in there. :)

Friendship Evolutions can be a pain. I find running or biking around works very well as does the daily massage if it is available. The soothe bell works wonders too. In many games Roselia is catchable relatively early on in game making obtaining Roserade easier.

Congratulations on the Shiny Tangela. I prefer his blue form but his Shiny is pretty nice too.

I have caught Shiny Forms of several Grass Types (Whimsicott, Ludicolo, Cacturne, Lilligant) and use them extensively. Indeed Lilligant is my signature Pokémon right now.

New Topic

Following the news that Sceptile will be a playable character in the upcoming Pokken game:

1. What other Grass Type would you like to see as a playable character in Pokken and how would they fight?

2. What Grass Type would you like to see as a support character and what will they do?

 

[Sun]

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Wow that picture looks great! I actually love it a lot. (:

Oh and congratulations for the Shiny Tangela! Are you planning to migrate and evolve it?

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New Topic

Following the news that Sceptile will be a playable character in the upcoming Pokken game:

1. What other Grass Type would you like to see as a playable character in Pokken and how would they fight?

2. What Grass Type would you like to see as a support character and what will they do?

Spoiler:

I would love to say Venusaur and Breloom, but they aren't; I still prefer Roserade over them. So if you put it that way, I have no signature Grass-type for the time being. -Hopes for a Mega Roserade-

It's not the uninspiring design that puts me off, it's the stats. As a non-competitive battler myself, I'm even put off by its stats. It was like Sunflora was created to suffer. :/ Your points on the mono Grass for Sunkern is so dang real, I feel ya completely. I tried to encourage myself to use it, but I really can't. She dragged down my team, or either that I sucked at using the Sunkern line! Lol

Maybe Lilligant as an elegant fighter? (: Or Venusaur? -thinks about the whips-

Spoiler:

Ferroseed would work well as a supporter Pokemon, they can either act as grenades or hazards!

 

[LilyGardy]

Spoiler:

Wow that picture looks great! I actually love it a lot. (:

Oh and congratulations for the Shiny Tangela! Are you planning to migrate and evolve it?

Spoiler:

I would love to say Venusaur and Breloom, but they aren't; I still prefer Roserade over them. So if you put it that way, I have no signature Grass-type for the time being. -Hopes for a Mega Roserade-

It's not the uninspiring design that puts me off, it's the stats. As a non-competitive battler myself, I'm even put off by its stats. It was like Sunflora was created to suffer. :/ Your points on the mono Grass for Sunkern is so dang real, I feel ya completely. I tried to encourage myself to use it, but I really can't. She dragged down my team, or either that I sucked at using the Sunkern line! Lol

Maybe Lilligant as an elegant fighter? (: Or Venusaur? -thinks about the whips-

Spoiler:

Ferroseed would work well as a supporter Pokemon, they can either act as grenades or hazards!

Spoiler:

I can see Mega Roserade being a reality when the Sinnoh remakes come. It was on Cynthia's team and was Gardenia's Ace after all. Mega Torterra is a near certainty but Sinnoh's other major Grass Type should get a Mega too. :)

Even the Pokedex dislikes Sunkern:

Spoiler:

Black 2/White 2 - It falls out of the sky in the mornings, knowing it is weak it feeds until it evolves

It is not surprising Sunkern slowed you down when even the Pokedex points out poor Sunkern's weakness.

I had a glance at Sunflora's stats...

Spoiler:

I didn't realise they were that bad. It has a 30 base speed - That's slower than Cacturne.

I am sure there is a way to work Sunflora into a Grass Monoteam but for me at least it is much easier to just use my Sun Stone on Lilligant, Whimsicott or Bellossom. In my Unova run Lilligant was my MVP, I can't imagine saying the same if I went with Sunflora.

Pokken Grass Type Topic

Lilligant could work as an elegant fighter. It could have a Moveset similar to Ivy in the Soul Caliber games or even Helena in the Dead or Alive games. (Or her Tekken equivalent) Lilligant's lack of visible legs may make it difficult to implement in game however.

My pick is Roserade. She wears a mask similar to masquerade wearers and dual wields bouquets of Roses. It could have a playstyle similar to the Street Fighter Character Vega with a personality to match.

Talking of Vines everyone remembers Dhalsim and his stretchy arms in the Street Fighter series. Vines could fill that role, perhaps with Bellossom as the Pokemon.

For support Pokemon the idea of Exploding Ferrothorns is an excellent one. I suggest Whimsicott. A group of the Windveiled Pokemon could slow the other fighter down with Cotton Spore. :)