Underground Subterfuge

Superjolt · Mar 1, 2017

Hau Now (ChBrCow) You're A Rockstar said:
@Superjolt - I interpreted GP's comment as meaning there was no fool but now since he's clarified that's not what he meant, my reason for voting NK isn't there anymore ;;

Is there anyone else you would want to lynch today ?

Abby · Mar 1, 2017

It is easier to forge a roleclaim in a setup like this

Selena Fluorspar · Mar 1, 2017

Superjolt said:
I don't think there would be 1/3 mafia here, that's pretty unbalanced for a 19 player game imo, I would say there's 4 mafia (outside chance of 5)

How would you feel about a Pecilia lynch?

Well that's a relief.

Well, it's tempting, and I probably wouldn't complain about it (though this might be a bit of a biased opinion seeing as where his vote currently is).

Who's Kiyo? · Mar 1, 2017

When the whole club got eyes on you:

Abby · Mar 1, 2017

I must be at a different club then

Strange · Mar 1, 2017

Hmm I think I'll vote to [Lynch] NightKrow

They haven't seemed to post at all except to vote? Oh no wait, they posted once, saying how they voted in the thread and didn't see that votes were anonymous that phase. But still, only posted to vote, essentially. I'd rather risk someone we can't get a read on due to lack of discussion than someone who might possibly be a fool.

Superjolt · Mar 1, 2017

Selena Fluorspar said:
Well that's a relief.

Well, it's tempting, and I probably wouldn't complain about it (though this might be a bit of a biased opinion seeing as where his vote currently is).

I was just wondering because if we don't go with Kiyo or Nightkrow, then Pecilia is my third pick for a lynch. I don't think Pecilia is town.

I was thinking the rest of the mafia were somewhere in Pecilia/Nightkrow/one of Bard's targets - probably between Strange/Melody over Johnny. I'm thinking I might need to reconsider Ullion and Abby though... Any thoughts on the other players listed here besides Nightkrow?

Abby said:
It is easier to forge a roleclaim in a setup like this

Abby who is mafia? I've had a town read on you since D1, but it's kind of slipping. I feel like you're sidelining and it's scummy

Strange said:
Hmm I think I'll vote to [Lynch] NightKrow

They haven't seemed to post at all except to vote? Oh no wait, they posted once, saying how they voted in the thread and didn't see that votes were anonymous that phase. But still, only posted to vote, essentially. I'd rather risk someone we can't get a read on due to lack of discussion than someone who might possibly be a fool.

Wiz, who else is mafia?

Pecilia said:
snip

Pecilia, I really don't think Selena is scum. Who else do you suspect right now?

Ullion said:
a big post

Thoughts on Pecilia, Abby and Bard's investigation targets (Johnny, Melody, Strange)?

Selena Fluorspar · Mar 2, 2017

Superjolt said:
I was thinking the rest of the mafia were somewhere in Pecilia/Nightkrow/one of Bard's targets - probably between Strange/Melody over Johnny. I'm thinking I might need to reconsider Ullion and Abby though... Any thoughts on the other players listed here besides Nightkrow?

I don't know if I've seen Strange do much, but he's not exactly a pick for a scumread. I failed to notice that Melody was in this game, so there's that, Johnny.... I don't know if I've played with him much but he's one of those people I feel like I wouldn't be able to catch normally if he was scum. Ullion's last two posts seem to have been thoroughly considered and I really like that, and I can't seem to figure out what Abby's saying most of the time.

Johnny said:
Why do Bard targets have to be mafia? I didn't really understand that part.

It's not have to, but if Bard's a naive cop then it's entirely possible one of his investigations was mafia. It's just a possibility though, so it's possible all three of you are innocent.

Ullion · Mar 2, 2017

Superjolt said:
Thoughts on Pecilia, Abby and Bard's investigation targets (Johnny, Melody, Strange)?

Abby: Hasn't done/said much, but the one thing that stuck out from me as curious was immediately after the role Abby was mentioned in the phase post as having been saved by the doctor (if my interpretation of what had happened is correct) she said that she wasn't bleeding. It seemed out of nowhere and not relevant to... anything? It could have been a soft claim attempt of saying that she is the bleeder role, though. I decided not to dwell on it beyond this, though.

Pecilia: I know they've posted throughout the game, but without looking back over the entire game yet, I don't remember anything Pecilia doing or saying having stood out to me. I'll come back and edit this part after re-reading today's phase with my thoughts on Pecilia.

Okay so before I continue further I've read the start of this day phase over again and wow I missed some posts and things are a bit more clear for me now. Actually, clear is the wrong word. Before I was sure Selena was legit cop and Kiyo was busted... but Selena saying she got the cop role as "Who's Kiyo?" but with no flavour reasoning as to why that username was tied to that role. From my PM I had flavour reasoning, and by the sounds of it, most others have as well. The only way I imagine Selena being honest here is if GP didn't do flavour text for the super ordinary vanilla roles (ie. vanilla mafia/town, cop, doc)? That being said, I'm more hesitant on lynching Kiyo now and am seeing NK as a better option, as such ~~[Lynch] Nightkrow~~. I suppose I should thank you SJ for having me re-read part of this phase at the very least. XD

Johnny/Melody/Strange:So I'm now having to re-write this part since I added in the above paragraph after starting this section. Johnny strikes me as an innocent so far, we had a potential lead towards Kiyo and he pursued it (effectively, imo) and that whole situation is what convinced me that Kiyo was in fact 3rd party. Hell, reading even further, I'm tempted to switch my vote back to Kiyo again and try to have faith in Selena's claim. Melody and Strange both have been posting each day and have offered some thoughts on what's happened, but neither of them seem to have had much presence. I had been minor townreading Strange but I think that's just more based off feeling and gut more than logic. Melody, I don't know... she's a question mark to me, but I haven't seen anything overly townie nor scummy at the moment.

For some final thoguhts now that I've written everything else out: I'm still really torn between voting for NK and Kiyo. NK is up to something and that OMGUS is just too obvious such that I do legit think she may be a fool role or something of the sort. Maybe she just doesn't have the time to deal with this game so she's simply throwing her life away and not caring? Kiyo does strike me as a more legitimate lynch target now that I'm thinking out loud... not to mention if he does show up as 3rd party, it would confirm Selena's cop claim. Which on one hand, is useful for us to use as info going forwards. But puts the town at risk since the mafia would know who the real cop is (Selena, presumably) and who the weird-cops are (Bard?). Although since results have been shared, it's also likely that the mafia could have already found out which one is which.
Yeah, I've convinced myself now:
[Unlynch] Nightkrow
[Lynch] Who's Kiyo?

I think we have more to gain from lynching Kiyo first, and possibly investigating other scum reads or uncertainty leads (ie. some of Bard's checks that we're not sure if we can trust or not) going forwards whilst hoping Selena remains untouched. Sorry for being so back and forth in this post, but I think I've got a slight better grasp on the situation now as well. :P

gimmepie · Mar 2, 2017

That's time!

gimmepie · Mar 2, 2017

Underground Subterfuge

Night Three

So... I flipped a coin.

Nightkrow is dead. She was Bardothren

Nightkrow has achieved a solo win! The game continues.

The Rules

1. Format votes as [Lynch] Player. Failure to do so may result in your vote not being counted.
2. Missing two votes in a row will result in your removal from the game and your replacement. To keep things interesting, replacements in this game will be given entirely new roles.
3. Do not share your PMs! Furthermore, all game related conversation should be kept to this thread or to specified Discord chats.
4. If you are dead, you are dead. You get one death post that may not contain any in-game information. After that you're barred from haunting the thread.
5. Do not post in the thread during the night phase.
6. You cannot abstain. You are however free to change your votes.
7. In the event of a tie for lynch votes, a coin toss will determine who dies.
8. Having fun is mandatory.

The Players

gimmepie as the GM

Abby as ???
Johnny as ???

Salzorrah as gimmepie (Godfather/Mafia)
NightKrow as Bardothren (Fool/Third Party)

Bardothren as ???
Pecilia as ???
Melody as ???
Who's Kiyo? as ???

jdthebud as Melody (Loudmouth/Inno)
Paranoia_ as Goku (Governor/Inno)

Strange as ???

Zapmolticuno as jdthebud (Vanilla/Inno)

Superjolt as ???
Ullion as ???

Uzumaki Naruto as Aquacorde (Cop/Inno)
Mr Cat Dog as Pecilia (Vanilla/Mafia)

Norðurljós as ???
Charlie Brown as ???

Aquacorde as Johnny (Leader/Inno)

Spoiler:

NightKrow · Mar 2, 2017

gimmepie · Mar 3, 2017

Time's up!

gimmepie · Mar 3, 2017

Underground Subterfuge

Day Four

Nightkrow was chilling in her house playing Overwatch. She was pretty calm about the whole murderers on the loose thing. As it was, she really didn't care who was in charge, who memed to hard or anything stupid like that. She just wanted to play Overwatch and watch people make a mockery of it in her mafia game. That's why she wasn't that bothered when a super-sexy mafia member walked through her wide open door.

"Oh hey! You seem friendly!" she said with glee. The mafia member responded by rolling a grenade towards her, shutting the door and leaving. Stranger danger kids.

Bardothren is dead. He was Nightkrow.

The Rules

1. Format votes as [Lynch] Player. Failure to do so may result in your vote not being counted.
2. Missing two votes in a row will result in your removal from the game and your replacement. To keep things interesting, replacements in this game will be given entirely new roles.
3. Do not share your PMs! Furthermore, all game related conversation should be kept to this thread or to specified Discord chats.
4. If you are dead, you are dead. You get one death post that may not contain any in-game information. After that you're barred from haunting the thread.
5. Do not post in the thread during the night phase.
6. You cannot abstain. You are however free to change your votes.
7. In the event of a tie for lynch votes, a coin toss will determine who dies.
8. Having fun is mandatory.

The Players

gimmepie as the GM

Abby as ???
Johnny as ???

Salzorrah as gimmepie (Godfather/Mafia)
NightKrow as Bardothren (Fool/Third Party)
Bardothren as Nightkrow (Cop/Innocent)

Pecilia as ???
Melody as ???
Who's Kiyo? as ???

jdthebud as Melody (Loudmouth/Inno)
Paranoia_ as Goku (Governor/Inno)

Strange as ???

Zapmolticuno as jdthebud (Vanilla/Inno)

Superjolt as ???
Ullion as ???

Uzumaki Naruto as Aquacorde (Cop/Inno)
Mr Cat Dog as Pecilia (Vanilla/Mafia)

Norðurljós as ???
Charlie Brown as ???

Aquacorde as Johnny (Leader/Inno)

Spoiler:

Who's Kiyo? · Mar 3, 2017

Too Many Cops, too many cops. Too Many Cops, tooooooooooooooo many ca-ah-ops!

Superjolt · Mar 3, 2017

Ullion said:
snip

I can tell you Abby definitely does not have the 'Abby' role (if that's what you were thinking yesterday). Also fwiw, my role PM doesn't have any additional flavor either.

What were your thoughts on Pecilia after re-reading?

Johnny said:
Why do Bard targets have to be mafia? I didn't really understand that part.

Not sure if you're actually reading. I gave my reads - I thought the last mafia were in Nightkrow/Pecilia and possibly one of Bard's targets, this was assuming Bard was naive cop and Selena is sane/real cop.

Selena Fluorspar · Mar 3, 2017

For a while I thought Bard's flip confirmed him as sane and was prepared to attack CB with my insanity as evidence but looking back, Desi didn't show his sanity upon flip either.

Pecilia · Mar 3, 2017

I'm Salzorrah but I'm going to call it Gunner from here on out.

Superjolt · Mar 3, 2017

Johnny said:
I am reading, that's why I said I didn't understand and asked you to explain.

Bard was definitely naive cop. Watch how the phase post implies it as it makes emphasis on how 'Nightkrow' didn't care who the others were.

Anyway, thanks to the phase post we know that username 'Strange' is mafia so everybody claim your usernames. I am Zapmolticuno.

If Bard was a naive cop it would make sense for one (maybe 2) of his targets to possibly be mafia since he would get an inno result no matter what. (I did also say I was leaning toward one of Melody/Strange as possible mafia with you being least likely out of the three). Your thoughts on this?

Claiming names is pretty useless though imo, maf would probably just lie anyway (especially now that you pointed that out), I mean just look at how MCD lied

Selena Fluorspar said:
For a while I thought Bard's flip confirmed him as sane and was prepared to attack CB with my insanity as evidence but looking back, Desi didn't show his sanity upon flip either.

What was your result last night?

Selena Fluorspar · Mar 3, 2017

Superjolt said:
What was your result last night?

Ah, uh, this is sort of embarrassing, but.... I got no results. I got roleblocked. It was a different flavor text from Kiyo's roleblocking snowballs so I think the mafia has a roleblocker on their side.

I kind of wanted to lie about having a guilty on someone but that could have backfired way too easily >.> and I spent quite a while thinking about how to go about that.

Underground Subterfuge

Put some [b][color=Red]color[/color][/b] in your l

#freecoffee

On hiatus

puking rainbows

#freecoffee

Put some [b][color=Red]color[/color][/b] in your l

On hiatus

[color=#00cc99][i]Simic Synthesis[/i][/color]

Night Three

The Rules

The Players

staying up all night

Day Four

The Rules

The Players

puking rainbows

Put some [b][color=Red]color[/color][/b] in your l

On hiatus

Best Witch

Put some [b][color=Red]color[/color][/b] in your l

On hiatus