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  • "You don't need to say you're on the right, it's heavily implied through your public statements."
    Sorry, but right and left are simply concepts, and you are grouping me into a stereotype based on specific views that I have. That isn't right, and isn't a good perception to have.

    Down playing Police brutality is something only the Right Wing do for instance. "
    Apparently not only the right wing, since I am not on the right. read ^

    The rest of your points make a lot of sense, and I would like our police to act like that. And maybe they can, but the problem is that few here has an interest in changing the police force.

    See, USA is on a very steep decline. Actually, a lot of the westen world, but mostly the USA. We have too much wrong, and it smells decay to me. The problem is that even If I wish to change something, everyone else wants to do nothing.

    But, I won't go on about that. I do like the ideals and training of the UK, as those police sound like men and women who can get shit done with very little violence, which actually appeals deeply to me.

    Cheers
    The import and production of firearms is not nearly at the same level in the entire of Europe when compared to the USA.


    I never said I was on the right side, or any side. I don't take overarching sides when it comes to politics, I take specific points.


    Gun control does harm law abiding citizens, in certain ways. It is also usually ineffective, because criminals can get guns here fairly easily, they are mass produce here. To obstruct a law abiding citizen to obtain a gun is against the Constitution.


    My major problem with gun control in general is being placed on a list. If my government knows I have a gun, and they decide to say round up civilians, they will know I have a gun. Its more of a privacy thing to me.


    Many people are ok with such things. Afterally, they are the retards who speak out against encryption when they don't even know what it is or does. They'd be ok with government back doors, to protect us from say terrorists.


    I am not ok with such things. I prefer privacy, and I
    This is true, but the problem with those cases, like shooting the guy 12 times sounds like bloodlust to me. As I said I the thread, amny people are insane, and while it does take a though background check to get into the police for, it is possible for one to hide their murderous tendencies until they get a chance to show their true colors. Such people should absolutely be persecued to the full extent of the law, and it is a sad system where its covered up. So, what would be your solution?


    You see, guns are allowed in our country with very little effort. One can buy a handgun, rifle, etchere with very little restrictions, while in most of Europe, guns are extremely heavily regulated. Whiles its cool that police in Europe, I assume Britian, can disarm criminals with his a baton, they don't have the problems of guns.


    But, its hard to regulate guns ij the USA, because we have a subculture dedicated to it, and we also have it in our constitution as a right of all citizens to have a gun. Of course, not insane people.
    But where does the line of excess police brutality end vs actual justfied force?

    What is excessive in everyday contact vs. not. We can all see that showing up with a swat truck to a protester rally is excessive, but what about other conflicts? What about every black person who gets upset when a cop shoots some black dude "for no reason"?

    Also, someone did in fact say that there should never be any killings ever. That, however, nulls the hardships of their jobs.

    So, where do you think the line is crossed, and what would you do about it?
    Lol, you're funny. You all care so much about your opinions, and are all asinine, that I thought I would put in actual asinine posts.

    As for the cops thing, those who say there should be no deaths are delusional, hoping for a world in which everything is peaceful. While that's not such a terrible goal to reach for, the outrage towards police disgusts me.

    "Powice shouldn't kill anybody, even ONE death is too much!" This is literally ignoring the real dangers of their job. What type of people do you think police deal with on a daily basis. What kind of assholes do you think are going to pull out a gun or knife on them at the first moment they can?

    So, that person who thinks that police should never use fatal force is damn retarded. Their job isn't a joke, and I am impressed even more people aren't killed.

    Also, If you wanted to discuss this some more, you should make a thread on the round table, which must be very special to you.

    Or, better yet, I can post this post on there for you, at no charge.

    Anyways, I don't mean to hurt your fee fees, as I know you all think your asinine comments must be the truth. Being on this forum, I cannot do outright bluntness, as it would bother you all so much.

    I have nothing against any of you, but most everyone is stuck in their worldview, and refuses to see other views. Me? I can change my view, when evidence is shown. For example, that army of police that was posted is very bothersome, but unfortunately I have no way to control that states government, nor the elections of their officials. But, the news can help in such a case, as it puts pressure on such a force.
    Perhaps. It depends on what comes back from their background check. So long as they don't impede the rights of others, I'm fine with it. Keep in mind though that Saudi Arabia is one of the worst places to live. It's dirty, full of lies, hatred, deceit, ineptitude, police brutality, public beheading and executions (estimated 157 persons whose head was lopped off), 'religion police', no singing or music in public, crusifications and defilement of the dead, they teach hatred of other religions in their children's school books and the list just goes on and on. The majority of their governmental establishment is . . . undesirable in my opinion. I don't necessarily want to accept a huge flux of refugees.

    Think of Miami 1980 and the Mariel Boatlift. We just don't have resources to spar accepting an influx of a 100,000 people. It's not right to accept that many people all at once. It overwhelms the systems and safeties put in place. We need to check on their personal history, which is extremely difficult given the Middle East's stringent hold on personnel records. It also doesn't help that Saudi Arabia labels people that videotape with their cellphone terrorists. So how do we weed out the unjustly persecuted and the actual aggressors?

    Hm. So I guess the real answer to your question is no, not a fast track. They need to be vetted slowly to reduce risk. Nobody wants a repeat of the Mariel Boatlift, so unfortunately for the innocent parties, they all need to be detained, quarantined, and vetted from that point on. The problem is that people think these things mean racism or persecution. Health hazards and viral infections are also a concern. There is a mountain of redtape, but that tape is designed to help protect the citizens already here.

    What would happen if they vetted someone and that individual was carrying a contagious pathogen that we have no real immunity to in the states? These, of course are all hypothetical, but this all needs to be considered before opening the flood gates.
    Ohohoho! Remember the anti-car theft device in RoboCop? The electric chair lol. That always makes me chuckle. I'd buy that for a dollar! I haven't seen the remake, but I don't think that guy is in the movie, unfortunately ohohoho!
    Oh, thanks! I had to think about what you were talking about ohohoho. Damaged mem coils, you see!
    This is why I don't directly engage people in the debate forum on this website anymore. It's exhausting.
    I'm still not over "Don't hate the player hate the game" in regards to Trump getting elected via Electoral College yet he whined about Brexit going through proper parliamentary procedure like what kind of cognitive dissonance
    " Imagine if the left just dropped their toys and voted solely on how many times some right wing numbskull has called them a cuck. " This is one of the funniest things I've read in a while thank you
    Thats cool that you got SpecialHands... usually you have to add arbitrary numbers and crap.

    I support Brexit cause Im a nationalist. xD

    Oh my gosh I'm so tired from the past two days. I did not receive much sleep last night at all and as a result i didnt participate much in my political theory much. that and I'm kinda in a sucky mood cause my bio grade took a hit. :/
    Brexit kek

    Legit whenever I think of Britain I just think of Nigel Farage lol. and I guess the American Revolution because I just finished studying that in history xD

    Out of curiosity, what is the origin of your username?
    Can you vote?

    Im supporting Trump, but reluctantly.

    I went from: hating -> tolerating -> loving -> tolerating
    Soooooo whats up? I just had dinner (microwaved tacos that were crap), so ima make a PBJ during the debate. I got homework to do, showers to take, and clubs to manage in the meantime. But I'm so tired because bowling wore me out. At least we won even tho I had an embarrassingly bad game (but so did everyone else but our best player). Three of us have averages the 140's and we scored in the low 100's... sad. But our best player scored a 267 and the other team is literally the worst in the league. xD
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