We have too many people in the world and we don't take care of them as it is. Period.
There is no such thing as pro-life. If there were really as many 'pro-life' people as there were 'anti-abortionists' we'd have universal healthcare in America. We'd have robust support groups for 3rd world countries. We'd have 0 poverty here. Etc.
Fact is a fetus is a person, but the homeless guy who needs your help on the street sure ain't.
I don't want to hear the phrase "pro-life" used again unless you're a Democrat who actually fights for equality in all walks of life. Otherwise you're just anti-abortion. Or maybe pro-overpopulation.
Wow. Your post was completely useless. Can you do nothing but behave like a rabid political fanboy? It only shows that you know absolutely nothing. Heck, not even everyone here is from America.
But hey, you want to argue overpopulation? Ok sure.
It is estimated that the earth can support a population of 10 billion people. We aren't even near that now, and I think that by then humanity would have figured out a way to support even more people. Cause we're awesome like that.
So don't worry about the future. Instead, we'll think about now. Fertility rates have been declining for quite some time in Western countries, and populations are aging. With a diminished adult population, who is going to support the elderly? Heck, who is going to run our economy? Immigration is but a temporary solution, and not a good one as due to the lowered fertility rate, the culture is already dying as it is, and immigration only speeds that up. While this isn't really an issue in the USA, Europe definitely has a problem with losing its culture.
Because the fetus can't think and/or express their thoughts, so their opinion can't be taken into account. And because we are talking about abortion in this topic. The mother may choose giving the baby to somebody else, but, in this thread, we discuss the possibility of letting them choose abortion as well.
The changes? That the fetus is outside of the mother and thus no longer needs her and only her to survive. This is where I draw my line. But, I have into account that there is a moment in the fetus' development where an abortion would not only kill the fetus, but the mother as well.
And, pretty much all the law is based on philosophical thoughts regarding the correct punishment for certain crimes. Since some people may disagree with when a fair punishment becomes unfair, we should remove all law. We are talking about taking some person's freedom and/or life away, after all.
Answering your question, people usually have different views on a subject, you know. The final decision is taken by majority. I still don't think that's enough reason to consider absurd that reasoning, or else we should destroy all the laws until every single person in the country agrees to them, don't you agree?
It can express pain. It has a desire to live. In the video I posted before, "The Silent Scream", the child in the womb dodges the medical instruments that are trying to tear it apart.
But besides it's place of residence and age, there is no difference. The child is exactly the same on the inside as it is outside. In the third trimester, a child can be born prematurely and yet still live.
Is that so? But "philosophical" law can still be wrong. I know you aren't American, but back in the days of slave usage, a black slave was not regarded as a person. Their master could do whatever they wanted with them. Unborn children are discriminated against in the same way, because of varying interpretations of what makes a person.
It's hardly taken by a majority. We don't live in a perfect democracy. Is there something wrong with the reasoning that an unborn child should be protected because it is human and it is alive? Both of those can be proven by science, and neither are based on religious faith or philosophical theory. We may very well turn to religion or philosophy to guide the creation of law, but in this case the obvious scientific facts are being ignored, and so human lives are being destroyed as a consequence of that.
I'm pro-choice. I think abortion should be legalized everywhere. If it isn't, the people who are dead-set on getting an abortion will just look for unsafe means of having one anyway.
Well first off, abortion isn't even safe, but secondly, people always say that people will start dying from backyard abortions. I've never actually seen anything that seems to back that up. Heck, I've never seen anything outside of urban-myths regarding the use of a coat-hanger in abortions.
Being gay, I do enough myself to prevent having more children. I also want to be a foster parent for all those kids who didn't get aborted and had unloving and uncaring parents. Who suffer from depression because they really would have rather not been born.
Gianna Jessen; Aborted but Alive: Read the story of a young woman who has been aborted and lived to tell about it. Gianna's testimony was given before the Constitution Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee on April 22, 1996.
My Mom tried to abort me three times: Amy Charlton survived three saline abortion attempts by her mom. Here's her story.
Two stories by those who have survived an abortion. Stop talking crap.
I really hate all the shame that women are made to feel if they choose to have an abortion.
Here you have someone who is making a very difficult, very personal choice that could affect her life for years and people are screaming at her and calling her a murderer like she's some heartless inhuman monster who would just as soon shoot a stranger on the street as she would brush her teeth. She has to go through uncomfortable, sometimes painful and humiliating medical procedures which she'll undoubtedly have to lie to people around her about when they ask where she went that afternoon. She has to keep the secret from nearly everyone because she can never be sure who she can trust and who will try to shame her, bully her, make her feel like she shouldn't have control over her own life.
I really hate that women are made to feel that abortion is the only choice when they are pregnant.
Yet once again you make it seem like the only choice. I express sympathy for these women that kill their own child - I can't imagine the pain they go through, nor do I ever want to. Which is why I argue against abortions, so that they don't have to go through the pain of one.
This.
I'm also going to have to agree with user who said nobody is pro-life. Except maybe Jebus. :/ I'm basically pro-choice.
I'm not saying that it's OK, because, I won't lie, that video was pretty sickening. BUT, I may agree with early stage abortions: like, when the fetus is merely a blob, far from taking shape and even farther from actual thought.
I'm also going to point out the fact that abortion could damage potential fathers as much as mothers. Just, on a more emotional level. A man (or even teen) who went through certain types of situations in his childhood could really want a family, and after being that close, an abortion could destroy him.
I also think it should be allowed in the instance of rape. Several users on this thread are ridiculing people and calling them cold-hearted, and yet they say all women should have to deal with that?
Some girls will eventually get over it and live to raise their child happily, but a majority probably won't. Some might not be able to take that sort of guilt staring them in the face every day. Rape can hurt just as bad as abortion.
Anyways, besides that, I try to stay away from this type of thing. I felt the need to put my opinion here though... Must be that PC vibe. >.>
There is no difference between a child at the start of the pregnancy and at the end - they are just merely in different stages of development. Calling it a blob is just your attempt to dehumanise it so that you don't feel bad about it being murdered.
Several users are calling themselves cold-hearted. I'd rather that women not deal with having to kill their own child. (Doesn't anyone read older posts anymore?)
Man, I really need to do my homework. This response has taken me way too long to type D:
