Battle of the Bands: Pandemonium [GAME OVER]

I was going to vote Sawsbuck for trying to form an easy bandwagon on me, but he roleclaimed Governor.. so I don't know.
By the way, about my post, I meant that the way the bandwagon was forming do fast was suspicious. And it was indeed. I voted Metroid because the phase was almost in the end and I needed to vote someone, and he was the best option we had.
At least now we know that Amine and Saws are town, that is, if no one counterclaims them.
By the way, I also find Kitty's claim suspicious, but as always, I'll wait until the end to cast my vote.
 
I was going to vote Sawsbuck for trying to form an easy bandwagon on me, but he roleclaimed Governor.. so I don't know.
By the way, about my post, I meant that the way the bandwagon was forming do fast was suspicious. And it was indeed. I voted Metroid because the phase was almost in the end and I needed to vote someone, and he was the best option we had.
At least now we know that Amine and Saws are town, that is, if no one counterclaims them.
By the way, I also find Kitty's claim suspicious, but as always, I'll wait until the end to cast my vote.
Waiting till the end to vote is scummy. Better to vote now to pressure people into talking.

My vote stays on you for now.
 
Waiting till the end to vote is scummy. Better to vote now to pressure people into talking.

My vote stays on you for now.

Honestly, I don't see how this is scummy. And honestly, I don't know why you are focusing on me, but ok, I won't complain.
 
[Vote] Kitty
come at me senpai :seduce:
 
Oh yea cool, another bandwagon.

I think that if we are to trust Saws' claim, we should at least give Kitty the benefit of the doubt. But whatever, another bandwagon appears.

[Vote] Kitty
come at me senpai :seduce:

I thought you were onto Saws and Newt like one post ago. Explain.
 
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Oops. Sorry, got busy irl and haven't allowed myself to be too active here today in the interrim

I don't really have time to read up on the current bandwagon, yet abstaining isn't allowed and idk if self-voting would count in that regard

So for right now I'm just going to Eliminate jdthebud bc I don't want to join a bandwagon while feeling uninformed, and afaik jd hasn't received any votes on him (that I saw while skimming real quick)

That's not to be taken as any sort of read on jd, it's just

Me accepting my own failure today lmao
 
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o thanks bby

Un-Eliminate jdthebud

I'll do actual shit now
 
I would steer clear of the Kitty bandwagon, sincei am not getting scumreads on them, so i'll use up my vote as a throwaway on [Eliminate]TheuncreativeSawsbuckFan until further development.

also yes I'm aware of the 24 hr extension, its just that due to irl stuff i may not be able to access the game so i need cast a vote.
 
So here's everyone who joined in on the metroid wagon. There's most likely scum on this wagon, I'll put my thoughts on each individual person here. Please note these are not in order. I will not include myself because I shouldn't be the one to judge myself. I stand by that vote and Roger kinda screwed up on that last post.

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This is very long and a response I'd expect from town.

Seeing the new development, I wud like to change my stance and go with
[Eliminate]metroid711
and yeah I see your point Sparkin
thought i wud still side with Pecilia's side of the argument but i think metroid just goofed up a bit too much to have ignored.

Has been pretty active in posting, I'm inclined to believe him to be town. Although not sure why he did a throwaway vote on Saws, but whatever.

EDIT: Oh wait. Just read through the new posts and I'm just gonna [Eliminate] metroid711

gj Peci

I kinda agree with Hyper though. But if Roger flips maf, we might have to watch Hyper.
Going from no vote to metroid shows a sort of lack of coordination. Which is a town read for me.


[uneliminate] Kitty
Throw tomatoes at/eliminate] Metroid
Um yeah wtf was that

Claimed Govenor. Don't really like some of his posts, but I'll vote for a vote elsewhere.

Althoug it seems that a bandwagon is forming too fast on Metroid, and that is a bit suspicious, he did a slip after all.
[Eliminate] Metroid711
"It's a bit suspicious how fast this bandwagon is forming" sounds like a cover up. A bit of scum lean.

The speed of this wagon makes me uneasy but I agree with the logic and I don't think I have anything better to choose currently, so [Eliminate] Metroid711

Another speed of the wagon post. Although their posts prior don't exactly render suspicion from me and looks more like he got baited into Sparkin's odd playstyle.

I'm sorry I've not been active thus far, work really caught me off guard. I'll take a proper read today but for now I have to agree that contradiction is strange and worth ramping the pressure up for.

[Eliminate] Metroid711
Inactivity due to work in school is understandable, but will also result in a nullread on me.

unvote Bidoof FTW
Eliminate Metroid

Contradictions concern me more than aggressiveness does so Doof is temporarily off the hook.
You were being quite aggressive on Doof too. Sparkin put a lot more effort into his explanation and sheeped along with him. I can see you as being scum.

Bonus read: Although Alvey didn't vote Met he hasn't really provided much help at all and he's has jumped from Saws to Kitty. This disturbs me the most. With this being said although I have my suspicions on GP and Newtsie, I don't like how Alvey has been playing this game in general. I'll stick my vote on him until further notice.

[Unvote]Nakuzami
[Eliminate]Aeternum
 
Good thing I still have time to post.
So here are my thoughts:
I believe that Pecilia, Nakuzami, Saws and Amine are town. Pecilia and Nakuzami are contributing with the game, while Saws and Amine roleclaimed.
I have scum lean on two people right now: Kitty and aeternum.
As for the rest, I have null reads.
But there's two things that I'm not liking on Kitty's bandwagon. One is how fast it formed, and two, Kitty didn't even defend properly. If she was mafia, I think she would have come up with a better defense.
For my vote, I'll follow Pecilia, although I'm not sure if we will be able to change the bandwagon this late in the phase.
[Eliminate] Aeternum
 
Hmm these new wagons are interesting...I'll have to see if there anything to the alvy wagon myself.

Good thing I still have time to post.
So here are my thoughts:
I believe that Pecilia, Nakuzami, Saws and Amine are town. Pecilia and Nakuzami are contributing with the game, while Saws and Amine roleclaimed.
I have scum lean on two people right now: Kitty and aeternum.
As for the rest, I have null reads.
But there's two things that I'm not liking on Kitty's bandwagon. One is how fast it formed, and two, Kitty didn't even defend properly. If she was mafia, I think she would have come up with a better defense.
For my vote, I'll follow Pecilia, although I'm not sure if we will be able to change the bandwagon this late in the phase.
[Eliminate] Aeternum
So what exactly is your reason for scumreading Aeternum?
 
Okay, looking back, this wagon on Kitty is extraordinarily weak.

And that's before the fact that she claimed Turncoat.

Thing is, now that she's revealed, the mafia can essentially recruit her at anytime in order to gain one more number to their advantage, i.e. if she somehow sticks around until late game, she could become a problem. The only real way to counter that would be to keep the nurse on her, but that wouldn't be all that efficient considering there's better roles to keep alive, ex. the Governor.

Lynching her is a waste, but, yes, it is technically safer than risking a lynch on a potential town pr.

But "playing it safe" in such a manner is a wonderful way to quickly lose traction and ultimately lose the game.

She's exposed. The mafia likely wouldn't waste a kill on her this early, nor do I think the SK would bother to kill someone that they know wouldn't die. Which means, for now, she'd remain town aligned, and it wouldn't be hard to remove her a bit down the line if that becomes a legitimate concern. This is assuming that she was not already converted, and her remaining alive and "exposed" is a perfect opportunity for the cult.

While, yes, she could be maf claiming turncoat in the hopes that the real turncoat won't counterclaim her, I don't find that altogether too probable, and it's honestly a better bet to claim cop in this setup.

Also, friendly reminder that it's already day two, which means the Cult will almost certainly have three members already (and, a related psa: the existence of a cult means that any and all roleclaims, cced or not, cannot be completely trusted---including Saw's Governor claim).

As far as non-Kitty players are concerned, there's quite a few flying under the radar and/or contributing very little in the form of either few posts or blatantly unhelpful posts.

Bardothren as The Trans-Siberian Orchestra, the ???
Fletch as No Doubt, the ???
HyperMorian as Squidward's Band, the ???
Pecilia as Tool, the ???
TheUncreativeSawsbuckFan as Blink-182, the Governor
Kiyotaka Ishimaru as Maroon 5, the ???
Miah as Paramore, the ???
Desox as Gorillaz, the ???
Newtsie as Hatsune Miku, the ???
aeternum as Aeternam, the ???
Kitty as Bring Me The Horizon, the Turncoat/Traitor
ASDBUDDY as The Beatles, the ???
Bidoof FTW as The 2 Bears, the ???
Sparkin' as Reckless Love, the ???
jdthebud as Switchfoot, the ???
Nakuzami as P!nk, the ???
Neko Maid Kapper as Guns 'n' Roses, the Hunter

purp as a zero
gimmepie as a townie
metroid as a townie

unknown count: 1-5 third party, 1-3 mafia, 9-12 town (ranges include min/max due to cult recruits/turncoat conversion)​

From what I've read thus far, I would personally rather see a lynch on Newtsie, ASD, Desox, jd, Sparkin or Fletch, in that order. Those aren't all hard scum reads, but from all interactions up until this point, those deaths would provide a bit more clarity, imo. But I also haven't re-read the entire thread in-depth since the start of this phase, so don't expect perfect certainty on that.

For now, Execute Newtsie

If the phase is still up and enough has happened by the time I get out of work tomorrow afternoon, I'll see about reviewing this all again.
 
Scumreading Newtsie for always sheeping. I don't remember seeing him push his own reads once in the game.

Besides, my reasoning for voting Kitty is not for safety. As I said, I believe that she's mafia claiming turncoat either in hopes to draw the real one or because the turncoat hopes to side with mafia.
Either way is a bad situation for us.
 
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Well, Newtsie has been sheepish and the nearest thing I've had to a scumread, so I'm happy to see myself agreeing with others, makes me feel more certain when I move, which on this game, hasn't happened until now.

I feel, as Pecilia said, a bad vibe with all of these "I'm uneasy with the bandwagon", and Newtsie has done it twice.

I also don't like when he went after aeternum without a single reason, felt like he was hitchhiking on Pecilia's move, like trying to form another bandwagon and give some momentum to it. Finally, the statements on Kitty feel like him trying to shield himself in case this move failed and Kitty flipped maf. Also note the nice contradiction of scumreading and "if she was mafia, I think she would come up with a better defense". So what is it?
Newtsie could also be trying to drag Kitty with him in case this reversed and he flipped mafia, though, so I'm still kinda willing to go with the benefit of the doubt for Kitty, because of the claim. Still, would like to hear what others think.

[Eliminate] Newtsie
 
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Ok since I got back early, i'll give my views in some detail
reads:
pecilia and Nakuzami I'm getting strong townreads
Since this is essentially my first game, I found Sparkin playstyle rather eccentric and bold, and got me pretty suspicious but I hear thats their regular playstyle so taking that into account i feel town read.
I'm not sure as far as Desox is concerned, i'm leaning townread but at the same time, im not
Saws seems rather lost and I think they might have already become a part of the cult as nakuzami had mentioned.
Miah put forward the list of the ppl that had votedmetroid and suggested to go about our reading off it, but never said anything concrete or something to follow up or even talk about it further.
i'm leaning scumread on ishimaru since most of what they said was rather vague and never straight to the point.

so reading further comments i feel voting newstie and fletch to see what they have to say.

so i'll join the wagon by
[Un-Eliminate] TheUncreativeSawsbuckFan
[Eliminate]Newstie


also still suspicious of Miah i'll keep the snowball on them.
 
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