Beginner's Mafia: Trouble in The Guild!

[Abby]

I still think we're forgetting that while a furry could have done one murder, another could have done the rest. There is no solod evidence. For all we know it could be oshawott's fur

 

[alisaie]

Pokemon with fur:

- Absol (used bite!)
- Lillipup (Nagi)
- Cubchoo (Kiyoshi)
- Bidoof? (Seth)
- Shinx (Lawlietta)
- Pikachu (Ash)
- Fennekin (Yuta)

I doubt it's Oshawott's, to be honest. Why would they have put it there and question it if it was.

 

[Salzorrah]

The ki to all of your problems lies on the name... probably. I guess... I don't know :P

 

[alisaie]

o-ho! There was "another ki" how sneaky.

[Shock] Kiyoshi the Cubchoo

better not be leading us wrong or else you should be muted for the rest of this game >8(

 

[Ullion]

Well, Cubchoo has fur as well, and the 'ki' does work.

That was sneaky, but I feel guilty now that we had to rely on Gunner for help. :(

Liable to change, but I think [Water Gun] Kiyoshi the Polar Bear will have to do. WTB super effective move against ice types. :(

 

[Who's Kiyo?]

ANOTHER KILLER GUYS, JESUS. What the does "another Kiyoshi" mean?

So guys, I'm of the opinion of not slaying another innocent. This is a small game to begin with, and knowing there are at least four or so Deathshades out there, I want to get our facts as straight as possible. So, as promised, here is an abridged version of each relevant Pokemon's biology, a la Bulbapedia:

Spoiler:

Piplup is a light-blue penguin-like Pokémon, which is [highlight]covered in thick down[/highlight] to insulate against the cold ... The [highlight]dark blue feathers[/highlight] on its head extend down its back and around its neck ...

Piplup has feathers, being based on a penguin. Probably not who Oshawott was talking about.

[Lillipup's] face [is] covered by an abundance of [highlight]cream fur[/highlight]. This [highlight]facial fur[/highlight] can be used for radar, and provides Lillipup with information about its surroundings. It has large pointed ears with [highlight]a tuft of fur[/highlight] near the base of each. Its [highlight]fur puffs[/highlight] out above its paws, and its back has a spiky dark blue blaze.

Apparently Lillipups are only made out of fur.

Cyndaquil is a small, bipedal Pokémon with [highlight]bluish fur[/highlight] on top of its body, and a milky color on the underside.

Cyndaquil - confirmed fur! I was a little surprised, but it is a fire mouse, after all.

Cubchoo is a bipedal, [highlight]ursine Pokémon[/highlight] with a light blue head and neck. It has a slightly pointed head with large round ears, shiny, dark, oval eyes, and a darker blue muzzle.

The Bulbapedia entry doesn't explicitly state fur? But it's a polar bear, it has fur.

Lickitung is a bipedal Pokémon with a round body and a thick, powerful tail. It has [highlight]soft, pink skin[/highlight] with curved yellow lines on its belly and yellow ring markings on its knees.

It's skin! squishy tongue-like skin but let's not talk about it

Absol is a quadruped, mammalian Pokémon with a dark blue to gray body covered in [highlight]white fur.[/highlight] It has a [highlight]ruff around its neck[/highlight] and chest and [highlight]a tuft[/highlight] on the top of its head adorned with a single blue-black oval.

Its biology also states it has a feline face, to boot. I always thought of it as more of a dog.

Bidoof is a brown, rodent-like Pokémon with four short legs ... Round [highlight]tufts of fur[/highlight] form its tail with five on the male and three on the female.

Bidoof, a mouse just like Cyndaquil. But apparently more of a "plump mouse."

Chingling is a yellow, spherical Pokémon [highlight]similar to a bell[/highlight]. It has stubby arms and legs, as well as beady, black eyes. On either side of its mouth is a large, black spot. Inside its mouth is a red orb, which creates a ringing sound as the Pokémon moves. Additionally, the orb can be vibrated to create high frequency, long lasting cries to deafen its opponents. The sounds produced can be too high for people to hear. Atop its body is ring-like growth with a striped rope through the middle. The rope is red-and-white with [highlight]short tassels on the ends.[/highlight]

Bells don't have fur, guys. This is everything they had on Chingling. But I completely forgot ... tassles? Tassles may be like fur, but Fletch seemed pretty sure it was fur in the day post, and I'm not into pointing fingers at someone because of a weird speculative thought.

Charmander is a bipedal, [highlight]reptilian[/highlight] Pokémon with an orange body, though its underside and soles are cream-colored.

The lizard has scales. :|

Shinx is a quadruped, [highlight]feline[/highlight] Pokémon resembling a lion cub or lynx kitten ... There is a short [highlight]tuft of fur[/highlight] on its head and smaller tufts on each cheek.

You're super cute and super furry.

Pikachu is a short, chubby rodent Pokémon. It is [highlight]covered in yellow fur[/highlight], and its ears are long and pointed with black tips.

Indeed, our Pokemon mascot is simply covered in fur.

Riolu is a small, blue, [highlight]canine Pokémon[/highlight]. It has black legs and torso, a blue tail, and a yellow collar. It has rounded bumps on the backs of its forepaws. It has a black "mask" and red eyes. It stands on its toes instead of its entire foot. It is sensitive to a special type of energy called Aura; however, It does not have the ability to fully use these powers, although it can still emanate these waves to communicate and sense them, albeit only in ripples. Like almost all Fighting-type Pokémon, Riolu naturally has superhuman strength, stamina, and endurance and is capable of making long journeys on foot in a short amount of time. It is a playful, energetic, and loyal Pokémon.

Again, not explicitly stated to have fur. BUT IT'S A BIPEDAL DOG. It has fur and I don't want to keep myself up at night thinking it's all just skin. *shivers*

Fennekin is a quadruped, fox-like Pokémon. It is [highlight]covered in pale yellow fur[/highlight] that is longer on its haunches. [highlight]Tufts of dark orange fur[/highlight] cover the insides of its large ears, and it has a white muzzle with longer fur on its cheeks.

What does the fox say? well your fur says you might be guilty

As for the recently deceased ...

Tepig is a quadruped, [highlight]pig-like Pokémon[/highlight] that is primarily orange. It has oval eyes, a pink nose, and a thick yellow stripe on its snout. The upper portion of its head is dark brown, and its long, pointed ears are positioned closely together. Tepig has short legs, and its front feet are dark brown. A dark brown band covers its lower back and rear. Its curly tail is tipped with a ruddy pink sphere..

I didn't expect this one to have fur anyway, so I highlighted the fact it was a pig, who have skin.

However, as I said previously ...

Oshawott is a bipedal sea otter-like Pokémon ... The [highlight]light blue fur[/highlight] on its body forms bubble shapes around its neck.

It could be Oshawott's fur, so the entire clue could be for naught. But why would Fletch not figure it as Oshawott's fur? I don't fully back myself up on this thought ...

also did anyone else notice both unova starters died this round

i think i've been working on this post for like a half an hour but whatever

Go look on Bulbapedia yourselves, it's all there. I didn't bother looking up Oddish or Gligar, since, well, they're dead. So out of all of us, only four living Pokemon can say they are not who left behind the clue. But then again, this is evidence of only one culprit.

Does anybody have any ideas on why fur was left behind? Was it in the struggle? Or molting, as Absol said?​

 

[Blurryface]

Hello helloooo, sorry for the troubles, Eros. I am here and I need to catch up with this stuff. I will read back and edit this with my vote.

 

[Detox]

I'm not to keen about hopping on the Kiyoshi bandwagon yet. I'll think things over and post a bit later.

I actually have my suspicions about another, but I'll keep that thought to myself for now.

EDIT: I feel that the fur tidbit is unimportant for the most part considering that it could easily be the fur of well. either of the victims. If we take that away, we don't really have much else to work with here. I don't think we should be taking any more shots in the dark either. Four innocents are dead and sooner or later the mafia members will outnumber the innocents and after that it's pretty much over with. We have to find some way of picking the best possible culprit out of the remaining members of the guild. I said that I'm not sold on lynching Kiyoshi, and that's based off of well... common sense. "There was another Kiyoshi" would make no sense coming from Oshawott. I feel that it's obvious that the word would be killer, and this might imply that the serial killer was who got Oshawott, and not a mafioso. This might also mean that Oshawott was attacked after Tepig, but that isn't really important.

Not gonna lie, I have odd feelings about Pikachu for some reason...

 

[Who's Kiyo?]

"Wait, another ki-?! Ki ... Ki ... Kiyoshi! Oh my god, 'Kiyoshi' and 'killer' start with the same two letters! That must be it! HOENN CONFIRMED!"

This logic is silly and Gunner is a meanie. >:C

I am not going to have my name dragged through the mud because some impish joke. We barely know anything right now besides that most of our population has fur.

Hell, I still don't know who to vote for. This is barely useful information as is.​

 

[Detox]

Okay well I'm gonna go with [KILL] Ash for now.

I might change it later, I might not. I ain't saying that Kiyoshi is innocent but I am saying that the logic is very bad right now.

 

[alisaie]

It's a wordplay. Part of the point of mafia is to find hidden clues in the day/night posts and go off of them. Gunner is basically saying that there is possibly a reason that it says 'there was another ki' as in there's a reason why Oshawott cut off at that precise moment. It's not because she was going to say 'kiyoshi' it was rather a hint to us as players.

Feel free to agree with me or not, that's fine. But I do think as a mentor Gunner was trying to hint that we should be looking beyond the obvious fur clue that doesn't lead us to anyone specific.

 

[Who's Kiyo?]

That's ... really, really faulty in logic. It would probably make sense if there was a comma after the word "another" in the day post, but there wasn't. "There was ... Another Kiyoshi" simply doesn't make sense, why are you trying to to kill me? It's incredibly far reaching to make "killer," the obvious word, into Kiyoshi, when anybody can tell that wasn't word Kiri/Oshawott was going to say.

Also as you said this is a Beginner's mafia. Maybe ArachnidsGrip is trying to test how we react to a sudden weird claim? I don't know, but I sure as hell don't appreciate it. >:C

[Icy Wind] Ash

I've had enough of this silliness.​

 

[alisaie]

You missed the point though. She wasn't going to specifically say Kiyoshi if she was able to finish. She finished at 'ki', and gunner is simply implying that there might be a reason behind it in the writing.

And yes, it's true she's trying to see what we would do if thrown information like that. Honestly though, is suspecting me for trying to get what Gunner is trying to say something to kill me over? Is that really logical?

You guys may continue to try to pursue the fur hint but honestly there is not much to it other than there is fur in the blood. :c

 

[Who's Kiyo?]

You missed the point though. She wasn't going to specifically say Kiyoshi if she was able to finish. She finished at 'ki', and gunner is simply implying that there might be a reason behind it in the writing.

And yes, it's true she's trying to see what we would do if thrown information like that. Honestly though, is suspecting me for trying to get what Gunner is trying to say something to kill me over? Is that really logical?

You guys may continue to try to pursue the fur hint but honestly there is not much to it other than there is fur in the blood. :c

No, no there isn't any reasoning behind the writing besides the word "killer," the word he was going to say. And is me voting for you really any different than you jumping to kill me the second Gunner screws with us?

Trying to defend this grammatical oddity that's shotty at best just sounds really ridiculous.​

 

[alisaie]

Hm, I suppose not. Perhaps I simply I have too much faith in Gunner, as a guildmaster, to not lead us on and to try to guide us.

[shock] Yuta

For the time being. I still believe Gunner is trying to tell us something but it's not something worth getting killed over. So until I have some others backing me up or some other clues aries I'll pick someone who hasn't really been around and is on the list of those with fur. Because really, there aren't any other leads to go off of other than that if no one wants to believe that there aren't any subtle wordplay hints or anything of the sort.

However, I will like to say that it's quite possible that Gunner is right and Kiyoshi is trying to debunk the idea because you're the serial killer or mafia. You may agree with Kiyoshi, but I personally wouldn't advise just in case.

 

[alisaie]

Well maybe not if you would learn to get up out of your hammock so we wouldn't have to hear Gunner yell at you down the hallway. :'(

( tbh I just was too lazy to remember that she was the secretary so i put master lmao )

 

[zevarius kerensky]

[KILL] yuta

i will change my vote if more evidince is obtained

 

[Abby]

Add some punctuation to it:
There was another,Kiyoshi

[KILL]Kiyoshi the polar bear

 

[Seth Rollins]

Oshawott was trying to say that there was another killer, because 2 persons died that night. "There was another Kiyoshi" doesn't really make sense. BUT the fur hint does, and since there isn't anyone else to aim at, I'll just

[kill] Kiyoshi the Polar Bear

don't worry I'll probably change this later just give me some time to think.

 

[Salzorrah]

You guys really need to get your shit together if you want to survive till the end. Day and Night posts are pretty helpful, and if you don't heed and understand them well, then you're gonna have a bad time ;)