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  • Cacturne (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Substitute
    - Swords Dance
    - Sucker Punch
    - Seed Bomb

    Cacturne is immune to Suicune's only attacking move.

    +2 252+ Atk Cacturne Seed Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune: 344-408 (85.1 - 100.9%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
     

    Homura Akemi

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  • Cacturne (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Substitute
    - Swords Dance
    - Sucker Punch
    - Seed Bomb

    Cacturne is immune to Suicune's only attacking move.

    +2 252+ Atk Cacturne Seed Bomb vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Suicune: 344-408 (85.1 - 100.9%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

    Mawile @ Mawilite
    Ability: Intimidate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Swords Dance
    - Play Rough
    - Sucker Punch
    - Iron Head

    Intimidate brings Cacturne's attack down, while Mawile's typing and defensive stats hard wall Cacturne.

    -1 252+ Atk Cacturne Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mawile: 51-60 (16.7 - 19.7%) -- guaranteed 6HKO
    -1 252+ Atk Cacturne Seed Bomb vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mawile: 51-60 (16.7 - 19.7%) -- guaranteed 6HKO

    after SD
    +1 252+ Atk Cacturne Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Mawile: 81-96 (26.6 - 31.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
    +1 252+ Atk Cacturne Seed Bomb vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Mawile: 81-96 (26.6 - 31.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

    while, in return:
    252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Cacturne: 840-990 (244.1 - 287.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO - obvious
    252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Cacturne: 373-441 (108.4 - 128.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    +2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Cacturne: 249-293 (72.3 - 85.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
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  • Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Toxic
    - Substitute
    - Roar

    252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Heatran: 114-135 (29.6 - 35%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Heatran: 48-56 (12.4 - 14.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    +2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Heatran: 227-268 (58.9 - 69.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    8 SpA Heatran Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Mawile: 312-368 (102.6 - 121%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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    Homura Akemi

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  • Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    - Fire Blast
    - Toxic
    - Substitute
    - Roar

    252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Heatran: 114-135 (29.6 - 35%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Heatran: 48-56 (12.4 - 14.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    +2 252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Heatran: 227-268 (58.9 - 69.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    8 SpA Heatran Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Mawile: 312-368 (102.6 - 121%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Conkeldurr @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Guts
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Drain Punch
    - Ice Punch
    - Knock Off
    - Mach Punch

    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Heatran: 198-234 (51.2 - 60.6%) -- 89.8% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    after toxic
    252+ Atk Guts Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Heatran: 294-348 (76.1 - 90.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Guts Conkeldurr Mach Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Heatran: 158-188 (40.9 - 48.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

    8 SpA Heatran Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Conkeldurr: 142-168 (34.2 - 40.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
     
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  • Azumarill (M) @ Sitrus Berry
    Ability: Huge Power
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Aqua Jet
    - Waterfall
    - Play Rough
    - Ice Punch

    252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 372-440 (89.8 - 106.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 73-87 (18 - 21.5%) -- possible 5HKO
    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 85-101 (21 - 25%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO

    After toxic:
    252+ Atk Guts Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 128-151 (31.6 - 37.3%) -- 86.3% chance to 3HKO
    252+ Atk Guts Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 110-130 (27.2 - 32.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
     

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    -Vaporeon w/Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Scald, Toxic, Wish, Protect

    252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 177-208 (38.1 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
    Stalls that ♥♥♥♥ out with Wish+Protect and Toxic.
     

    Dark Azelf

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    Celebi@Life Orb
    80 HP / 252 SAtk / 176 Speed
    Modest Nature
    Trait: Natural Cure
    - Nasty Plot
    - Psychic
    - Earth Power
    - Giga Drain

    Takes status all day long and sets up and ko's vappy in return.
     
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  • Mandibuzz (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Overcoat
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
    Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
    - Foul Play
    - Knock Off
    - Roost
    - Defog

    Immune to Earth Power and Giga Drain. 2HKOs with Foul Play

    4 Atk Mandibuzz Foul Play vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Celebi: 186-218 (51.5 - 60.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252+ SpA Life Orb Celebi Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mandibuzz: 77-90 (18.1 - 21.2%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
     

    Arc

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  • Aggron @ Choice Band
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Rock Head
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
    - Head Smash
    - Aqua Tail
    - Heavy Slam
    - Earthquake

    Can take a few Foul Plays, and OHKO back.

    252+ Atk Choice Band Aggron Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mandibuzz: 500-590 (117.9 - 139.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    4 Atk Mandibuzz Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aggron: 91-108 (26.4 - 31.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
     
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  • Swampert @ Leftovers
    Ability: Torrent
    EVs: 252 Atk / 252 HP / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Waterfall
    - Roar
    - Stealth Rock

    Takes a hit relatively well, and OHKOes back with Earthquake.

    252+ Atk Choice Band Aggron Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Swampert: 195-229 (48.2 - 56.6%) -- 35.5% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    252+ Atk Swampert Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aggron: 384-456 (111.6 - 132.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

    Sopheria

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  • Carnivine @ Leftovers
    Ability: Levitate
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature
    -Swords Dance
    -Power Whip
    -Return
    -Ingrain

    Carnivine will outspeed Swampert and OHKO it with Power Whip.
     

    Nah

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    -Chandelure w/Life Orb
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Infiltrator
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Fire Blast, Energy Ball, Shadow Ball, Hidden Power Fighting

    Can take a +2 Power Whip:
    +2 252 Atk Carnivine Power Whip vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 178-210 (68.1 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Then OHKOs with Fire Blast.
     
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    Aerodactyl @ Aerodactylite
    Ability: Pressure (Tough Claws)
    IVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed
    Nature: Adamant
    - Stone Edge
    - Earthquake
    - Aerial Ace
    - Roost

    Out-speeds Chandelure, and knocks it out with either Stone Edge or Earthquake.

    252 SpA Life Orb Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Aerodactyl: 192-227 (63.5 - 75.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    252 Atk Mega Aerodactyl Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 246-290 (94.2 - 111.1%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
    252 Atk Mega Aerodactyl Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chandelure: 368-434 (140.9 - 166.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     
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  • Ferrothorn (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Iron Barbs
    EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SDef
    Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
    - Leech Seed
    - Protect
    - Gyro Ball
    - Power Whip

    252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Aerodactyl Aerial Ace vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 85-102 (24.1 - 28.9%) -- 98.9% chance to 4HKO
    252+ Atk Mega Aerodactyl Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 73-87 (20.7 - 24.7%) -- guaranteed 5HKO

    4 Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (150 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Aerodactyl: 354-416 (117.2 - 137.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
     

    Nah

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    -Magcargo w/Leftovers
    Nature: Bold
    Ability: Flame Body
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Defense, 4 Sp.Attack
    Moves: Fire Blast, Earth Power, Ancient Power, Recover

    0 Atk Ferrothorn Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Magcargo: 78-93 (25.6 - 30.5%) -- 1.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    0 Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (35 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Magcargo: 24-28 (7.8 - 9.2%) -- possibly the worst move ever

    4 SpA Magcargo Fire Blast vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Ferrothorn: 348-412 (99.1 - 117.3%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO

    Dat 4x Fire weakness sucks....so does Magcargo's 4x Water and Ground weaknesses XD.
     
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    Conkeldurr (M) @ Assault Vest
    Ability: Guts
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SDef
    Adamant Nature
    - Knock Off
    - Drain Punch
    - Mach Punch
    - Ice Punch

    252+ Atk Golem Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 178-210 (42.9 - 50.7%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO
    252+ Atk Golem Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 89-105 (21.4 - 25.3%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO

    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Golem: 228-270 (62.6 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
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  • Azumarill (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Huge Power
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Play Rough
    - Waterfall
    - Aqua Jet
    - Ice Punch

    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 73-87 (18 - 21.5%) -- possible 5HKO
    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 85-101 (21 - 25%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO

    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 560-660 (135.2 - 159.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 372-440 (89.8 - 106.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
     
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  • Azumarill (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Huge Power
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - Play Rough
    - Waterfall
    - Aqua Jet
    - Ice Punch

    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 73-87 (18 - 21.5%) -- possible 5HKO
    252+ Atk Conkeldurr Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 85-101 (21 - 25%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO

    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 560-660 (135.2 - 159.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
    252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Conkeldurr: 372-440 (89.8 - 106.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

    Modest Mega Venusaur @MegaStone
    252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 DEF
    Giga Drain / Sludge Bomb / HP Dark / Leech Seed

    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 50-59 (13.7 - 16.2%) -- possible 7HKO
    252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 112-132 (30.7 - 36.2%) -- 58.8% chance to 3HKO

    252+ SpA Mega Venusaur Giga Drain vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 308-366 (76.2 - 90.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
    252+ SpA Mega Venusaur Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 372-438 (92 - 108.4%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
     

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    -Skamory w/Leftovers
    Nature: Impish
    Ability: Sturdy
    EVs: 252 HP, 232 Defense, 24 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Brave Bird, Whirlwind, Roost, Toxic


    252+ SpA Mega Venusaur Hidden Power Dark vs. 252 HP / 24 SpD Skarmory: 90-106 (26.9 - 31.7%) -- 36.7% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery


    0 Atk Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Venusaur: 182-216 (50 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
     
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