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Counter that Pokémon

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    The title says it all. I will post a set on this thread and the next person to post has to post a Pokémon set that is a 100% counter to mine. Your set should not only be able to switch in to any of the opposing Pokémon's move, but also be able to KO it. Try to avoid posting sets that have already been posted so that we don't get stuck in a loop where the same five Pokémon sets are posted over and over again.

    Ban List:
    1. Ubers
    2. Unreleased Dream World moves, abilities and items.
    3) OHKO (Sheer Cold, Fissure, etc), Self KO (Explosion, Final Gambit, etc) and Evasion boosting moves (Minimise, Double Team).
    4) Shedinja

    Here's an example of how this works:

    User 2 said:
    User 1 said:
    Jirachi @ Leftovers
    Trait: Serene Grace
    EVs: 252 HP / 112 SAtk / 144 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Calm Mind
    - Substitute
    - Psychic
    - Thunder
    Krookodile (F) @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Moxie
    EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
    - Earthquake
    - Crunch
    - Stone Edge
    - Pursuit

    Krookodile can safely switch into this Jirachi set as it is unaffected by both Thunder and Psychic. It can also KO Jirachi with Earthquake.

    The Pokémon should be able to KO it in a one on one situation, so there won't be Stealth Rock or Spikes on the field. Please don't talk about using hax moves or items. The probability of you moving first (Quick Claw), the opponent missing its move (Bright Powder) or flinching your opponent until it dies should not be used as arguments.

    I'll start off with my set.

    Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
    Trait: Technician
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
    Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
    - U-turn
    - Bullet Punch
    - Superpower
    - Pursuit
     
    These threads are fun.

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    Cofagrigus @ Leftovers
    248 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef
    Bold Nature
    - Shadow Ball
    - Will-O-Wisp
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk​

    252+ Atk Choice Band Technician burned Scizor Pursuit vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Cofagrigus: 60-71 (18.8 - 22.25%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock

    GOOD LUCK GETTING THROUGH THE WALLLLL.

    Also remember guys:

    Definition of a counter: A Pokemon that can switch into the opposing Pokemon with little or no risk, and proceed to threaten a KO. Basically, a counter is the perfect switch-in to a Pokemon.
     
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    Heatran @ Choice Specs
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Speed
    Trait: Flash Fire
    - Overheat
    - Earth Power
    - Hidden Power [Grass]
    - Dragon Pulse

    Cofag cannot do anything to this, possibly giving it a flash fire boost too with Wisp. :P In return its swiftly decimated by Overheat.
     
    Gyarados:
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    -Dragon Dance
    -Waterfall
    -Bounce
    -Substitute
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 88 HP/248 Atk/4 Def/168 Spe
    Item: Leftovers

    Gyarados can come in on whatever Heatran throws out, bar Dragon Pulse, and can either threaten it off the bat with Waterfall or set up a Sub as it switches out, then Dragon Dance from there.
     
    Ferrothorn
    -Iron Defense
    -Iron Head
    -Power Whip
    -Leech Seed/Poison Jab
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 192 HP/252 Def/64 SpD OR SpA
    Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet

    This thing can successfully switch in to any of Gyarados' attacks. Bounce is the only regularly effective attack it has, which would hit the massive defense stat, plus take damage from Iron Barbs and potentially Rocky Helmet. Power Whip would take care of the sub, and if Ferrothorn could get a Leech Seed in, all the better.
     
    Ferrothorn
    -Iron Defense
    -Iron Head
    -Power Whip
    -Leech Seed/Poison Jab
    Nature: Bold
    EVs: 192 HP/252 Def/64 SpD OR SpA
    Item: Leftovers/Rocky Helmet

    This thing can successfully switch in to any of Gyarados' attacks. Bounce is the only regularly effective attack it has, which would hit the massive defense stat, plus take damage from Iron Barbs and potentially Rocky Helmet. Power Whip would take care of the sub, and if Ferrothorn could get a Leech Seed in, all the better.


    Magnezone@Leftovers
    4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Speed
    Modest Nature
    Trait: Magnet Pull
    - Substitute
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Flash Cannon
    - Charge Beam

    Can switch in with ease and get +6 special attack via charge beam and trapping you and behind sub (so whoever suggests a counter next is p much gonna have to deal with that as its a fact). It then returns the KO with Hidden Power Fire or even resisted hits lol.
     
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    Gastrodon@Leftovers
    252 hp / 252 SpDef / 4 SpA
    Calm Nature
    Ability: Storm Drain
    Earth Power
    Scald
    Toxic
    Recover

    I don't know what pokemon could survive if Magnezone got X4 special attack and was behind a substitute, but I think if there's a pokemon that could do it, it's Gastrodon. Either resisting, or having complete immunity to all of its attacks and dealing super effective damage back. Not to mention the HP recovery.
     
    Breloom@Focus Sash
    4 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    Ability: Technician
    -Bullet Seed
    -Mach Punch
    -Spore
    -Stone Edge

    Breloom can come in and OHKO Gastrodon with Bullet Seed.
     
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    Tangrowth @ Leftovers
    Trait: Regenerator
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
    Bold Nature
    - Giga Drain
    - Hidden Power [Ice]
    - Focus Blast
    - Synthesis

    Tangrowth can take any attack Breloom can dish out with its incredibly high defense, and then strike back with HP Ice.
     
    Victini:
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    -Blue Flare
    -Focus Blast
    -Glaciate
    -Thunderbolt/Thunder
    Nature: Timid
    EVs: 4 Def/252 SAtk/252 Spe
    Item: Expert Belt/Life Orb

    Not only does Victini prey on Tangrowth's terrible Special Defense, but it also walls the entirety of its set.
     
    Swampert with Leftovers
    Adamant Nature
    EV: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Def (Offensive tank in smogon)

    Scald/Waterfall
    Earthquake
    Ice punch
    Stealth rock/Toxic

    Takes half damage from Blue flare, no damage from thunderbolt/thunder. Doesn't mind Glaciate as Swampert is already a slow Pokemon. Focus blast is the only possible danger but Swampert should be able to take a hit before countering with Waterfall. Plus Focus blast is as accurate as a blind sniper.
     
    Celebi w/ Life Orb
    Modest nature
    60 HP / 252 SpA / 196 Spe
    ~ Leaf Storm
    ~ Earth Power
    ~ Thunder Wave
    ~ Recover

    Due to its better-than-average defenses, Celebi can endure tons of attacks. Leaf Storm allows it to take down a variety of OU Pokémon, such as Jellicent, Starmie, Tentacruel, Terrakion, and even Swampert. With Thunder Wave, it's able to cripple up a few of your opponent's strongest Pokémon, such as Scizor, Latios, and Breloom. Recover enables it to keep itself healthy at all times. Finally, with Earth Power, this Pokémon can take down Ninetales, Volcarona, Heatran, and Infernape, who are a few of its major threats.
     
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    Moltres @ Life Orb / Lum Berry if you really fear paralysis that much
    Modest 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Speed
    - Hurricane
    - Fire Blast
    - Hidden Power Ground
    - Agility / Roost

    252+ SpA Life Orb Celebi Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Moltres: 78-91 (24.29 - 28.34%) -- possible 4HKO

    oh wait SpA drops

    -2 252+ SpA Life Orb Celebi Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Moltres: 39-45 (12.14 - 14.01%) -- possible 8HKO

    Fire Blast / Hurricane also says hi regardless of weather.
     
    Tyranitar@ Choice Band
    176 HP / 252 Atk / 80 Speed
    Adamant Nature
    Trait: Sandstream
    - Stone Edge
    - Crunch
    - Pursuit
    - SuperPower

    Can switch in on Moltres, take nothing from all your attacks. Even HP Ground in SS does barely anything and easily returns the KO with Stone Edge or Pursuit if you switch.
     
    Gastrodon
    Item: Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 84 Def / 172 SpD
    Nature: Calm / Sassy
    Ability: Sand Force
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Scald
    ~ Toxic
    ~ Recover

    Gastrodon resists Tyranitar's Stone Edge, is not weak to its other moves, and can go for the KO with a Sand Force+STAB boosted Earthquake.
     
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    Gastrodon
    Item: Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 84 Def / 172 SpD
    Nature: Calm
    Ability: Sand Force
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Scald
    ~ Toxic
    ~ Recover

    Gastrodon resists Tyranitar's Stone Edge, is not weak to its other moves, and can go for the KO with a Sand Force boosted Earthquake.

    Just saying, Calm would weaken Earthquake's power, so Sassy is generally better.

    Anyway:
    Roserade
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    -Spikes/Toxic Spikes
    -Giga Drain
    -Hidden Power (Fire)/Toxic Spikes
    -Rest
    Nature: Calm
    EVs: 252 HP/120 Def/136 SDef
    Item: Black Sludge
    Ability: Natural Cure

    Roserade uses its high Special Defense to shrug off Gastrodon's Scalds, though it takes a chunk from Sand Force-boosted EQs. It then threatens Gastrodon with STAB Giga Drain or sets up hazards as it switches out.
     
    Just saying, Calm would weaken Earthquake's power, so Sassy is generally better.

    Whoops, I totally forgot that Calm weakens Attack. Thanks for spotting that!

    Anyway:

    Sigilyph
    Item: Flame Orb
    Ability: Magic Guard
    Nature: Bold
    ~ Cosmic Power
    ~ Stored Power
    ~ Roost
    ~ Psycho Shift

    Sigilyph's Magic Guard means that it takes no damage from entry hazards. It also resists Giga Drain and has reliable recovery in Roost. It can set up Cosmic Powers and can hit Roserade with a super-effective Stored Power.
     
    Gastrodon
    Item: Leftovers
    EVs: 252 HP / 84 Def / 172 SpD
    Nature: Calm / Sassy
    Ability: Sand Force
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Scald
    ~ Toxic
    ~ Recover

    Gastrodon resists Tyranitar's Stone Edge, is not weak to its other moves, and can go for the KO with a Sand Force+STAB boosted Earthquake.

    Just sayin but this gets 2hko'd by CB Tars Crunch so cant switch in at all, Gastrodon is a terrible Tyranitar counter. ;x

    Whoops, I totally forgot that Calm weakens Attack. Thanks for spotting that!

    Anyway:

    Sigilyph
    Item: Flame Orb
    Ability: Magic Guard
    Nature: Bold
    ~ Cosmic Power
    ~ Stored Power
    ~ Roost
    ~ Psycho Shift

    Sigilyph's Magic Guard means that it takes no damage from entry hazards. It also resists Giga Drain and has reliable recovery in Roost. It can set up Cosmic Powers and can hit Roserade with a super-effective Stored Power.

    Spiritomb@ Leftovers
    252 HP / 144 Def / 112 Sp.Def
    Calm Nature
    Trait: Pressure
    - Rest
    - Sleep Talk
    - Bark Out / Shadow Ball
    - Will-O-Wisp

    Sigi cant touch it, it then proceeds to get pressure stalled. Bark Out makes special attacker switch ins lol whilst Wisp cripples physical switch ins.
     
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    Heatran @ Air Balloon
    Trait: Flash Fire
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
    Timid Nature

    - Fire Blast
    - Earth Power
    - Hidden Power Grass
    - Toxic / Stealth Rock / Will-o-Wisp

    This Heatran completely walls Spiritomb, taking next to nothing from Shadow Ball, laughing at Will-o-Wisp and 2hkoing Tomb with Fire Blast.
     
    The funny thing is that Spiritomb would actually win versus Heatran barring a crit if it switches into Bark Out, keeping in mind that you are going to get Pressure stalled like nothing else:

    -1 Fire Blast vs 252 HP / 112 SpD Tomb: (33.55 - 39.47%)
    -2 Fire Blast vs 252 HP / 112 SpD Tomb: (25 - 29.6%)
    -3 Fire Blast vs 252 HP / 112 SpD Tomb: (20.06 - 24.01%)

    With Leftovers assuming Max damage on all the rolls, Spiritomb is sitting at roughly 26% and is ready to Rest as you fire off your final Fire Blast, and it doesn't have to worry about you absorbing WoW as you have no fire moves to power up. Of course, crits makes everything laughable, but eh.

    Anyway, another way of dealing with Heatran:

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    Starmie @ Life Orb
    Natural Cure
    Timid 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Speed
    - Hydro Pump
    - Thunderbolt / Psyshock
    - Ice Beam / Recover
    - Rapid Spin

    Beats Heatran 80% of the time.
     
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