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    Seismitoad (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Def
    Modest Nature
    - Protect
    - Aqua Ring
    - Earth Power
    - Scald

    Could withstand all of Metagross' attacks, then take it down with a couple of Earth Powers.
     
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  • Shaymin @ Leftovers
    Trait: Natural Cure
    EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
    Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
    - Leech Seed
    - Seed Flare
    - Psychic
    - Substitute

    Resists both Scald and Earth Power and OHKOs with Seed Flare.
     

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    -Flareon w/Leftovers
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Guts
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Flare Blitz, Flame Charge, Facade, Superpower

    252 SpA Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Flareon: 75-89 (27.5 - 32.7%) -- 71% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252 SpA Shaymin Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Flareon: 76-90 (27.9 - 33%) -- 85.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

    Shaymin can only 4HKO, while Flame Charge is enough to break a Sub, and then make Flareon outspeed Shaymin. Flare Blitz OHKOs (duh).
     
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    Marshtomp @ Eviolite
    Ability: Torrent
    Nature: Adamant
    EVs: 252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk
    - Earthquake
    - Waterfall
    - Double-Edge
    - Brick Break

    Walls Flareon, then makes it faint instantly with only just one Earthquake.

    4+ Atk Marshtomp Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Flareon: 314-372 (115.4 - 136.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    252 Atk Flareon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eviolite Marshtomp: 65-77 (18.8 - 22.3%) -- possible 5HKO
    252 Atk Flareon Facade vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eviolite Marshtomp: 51-60 (14.8 - 17.4%) -- possible 6HKO
    252 Atk Flareon Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eviolite Marshtomp: 87-103 (25.2 - 29.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
    252 Atk Flareon Flame Charge vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Eviolite Marshtomp: 27-33 (7.8 - 9.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
     

    PlatinumDude

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  • I've been waiting for this:

    Mega Pinsir:
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    -Swords Dance
    -Return
    -Earthquake
    -Quick Attack
    Nature: Jolly
    EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
    Item: Pinsirite
    Ability: Hyper Cutter

    Mega Pinsir is only 4HKOed at best by Marshtomp's Waterfall and Double-Edge; it's also immune to Earthquake and takes a pittance from Brick Break. Even unboosted, Aerilate Return does a lot to Marshtomp and it's an OHKO when Mega Pinsir is at +2 Attack.

    And just saying, but running Adamant with barely any Attack EVs at all is a waste.
     

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  • Aggron @ Aggronite
    Trait: Filter
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 Def
    Adamant Nature

    - Heavy Slam / Iron Head
    - Earthquake
    - Rock Slide
    - Power-Up Punch

    Again, I use Rock Slide > Stone Edge because Mega Aggron is a very defensive pokemon and it wouldn't appreciate a miss. Earthquake can deal 30% at most, while Rock Slide = bye bye Mega Pinsir.
     
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    Politoed (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Drizzle
    EVs: 252 HP / 4 SAtk / 252 Def
    Bold Nature
    - Scald
    - Hypnosis
    - Ice Beam
    - Protect

    Could stand any attacks that Aggron tries to use. Thanks to rain, it KOs Aggron with about three Scalds.

    4 SpA Politoed Scald vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Aggron in Rain: 144-171 (41.8 - 49.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

    252+ Atk Mega Aggron Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Politoed: 110-130 (28.6 - 33.8%) -- 97.7% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Mega Aggron Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Politoed: 98-116 (25.5 - 30.2%) -- 0.2% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Mega Aggron Power-Up Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Politoed: 45-53 (11.7 - 13.8%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    252+ Atk Mega Aggron Iron Head vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Politoed: 66-78 (17.1 - 20.3%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Mega Aggron Rock Slide vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Politoed: 83-98 (21.6 - 25.5%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
     

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    -Jolteon w/Choice Specs
    Nature: Timid
    Ability: Volt Absorb
    EVs: 252 Sp.Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Thunder, Volt Switch, Signal Beam, Hidden Power Ice

    Jolteon can handle a rain boosted Scald from Politoed:
    4 SpA Politoed Scald vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Jolteon in Rain: 126-148 (46.3 - 54.4%) -- 59% chance to 2HKO

    And the rain makes an OHKO via Thunder a certainty.
     

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    Mamoswine @ Choice Scarf
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 36 HP / 252 Atk / 220 Spe
    Jolly Nature
    - Earthquake
    - Icicle Spear
    - Icicle Crash
    - Rock Slide

    252 SpA Choice Specs Jolteon Signal Beam vs. 36 HP / 0 SpD Mamoswine: 165-195 (44.5 - 52.7%) -- 25.8% chance to 2HKO

    252 Atk Mamoswine Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Jolteon: 494-584 (181.6 - 214.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

    Mamo comes in and tanks a Signal Beam from Jolteon, outspeeds and OHKOs with EQ.
     
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    Pelipper (M) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Rain Dish
    EVs: 252 HP / 56 Def / 200 SDef
    Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
    - Scald
    - Stockpile
    - Protect
    - Roost

    Mamoswine would be locked onto Earthquake thanks to Choice Scarf, which has no effect on Pelipper. Pelipper could then switch into the field and take Mamoswine down with a couple of Scalds.
     

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  • Heliolisk @ Life Orb
    Ability: Dry Skin
    EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
    Timid Nature
    IVs: 30 SAtk
    - Thunderbolt
    - Surf
    - Focus Blast
    - Volt Switch

    Heliolisk can absorb that scald and strike back with a super effective thunderbolt. Pelliper can't do anything in return.
     

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    Swagsire Quagsire w/Leftovers
    Nature: Sassy
    Ability: Water Absorb
    EVs: 252 HP, 8 Defense, 248 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Earthquake, Recover, Scald, Toxic

    Is immune to 3 of Heliolisk's attacks, and Focus Blast only 3HKOs with this EV spread:
    252 SpA Life Orb Heliolisk Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 248+ SpD Quagsire: 142-168 (36 - 42.6%) -- 94.6% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

    While Earthquake OHKOs.
     
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    Roserade @ Black Sludge
    Natural Cure
    8 HP / 248 Def / 252 SAtk
    Bold nature
    - Leaf Storm
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Synthesis

    0 Atk Quagsire Earthquake vs. 8 HP / 248+ Def Roserade: 90-106 (34.2 - 40.3%) -- 43.6% chance to 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery
    Can switch in and threaten to OHKO.
     

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    Roserade @ Black Sludge
    Natural Cure
    8 HP / 248 Def / 252 SAtk
    Bold nature
    - Leaf Storm
    - Sludge Bomb
    - Hidden Power Fire
    - Synthesis

    Can switch in and threaten to OHKO.

    Spread is kinda inefficient. Uninvested Leaf Storm still KOs Quagsire. Roserade would rather have all the mixed bulk it can get by investing the other half of its EVs into HP.

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    -Draco Meteor
    -Fire Blast
    -Sludge Bomb
    -Focus Blast
    Nature: Modest
    EVs: 248 HP/252 SAtk/8 SDef
    Item: Assault Vest
    Ability: Gooey

    Goodra uses its Assault Vest-boosted Special Defense to sponge whatever Roserade throws at it, then threatens it out with Fire Blast.
     

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    -Dragonite w/Weakness Policy
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Multiscale
    EVs: 252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
    Moves: Dragon Claw, Dragon Dance, Fire Punch, Extreme Speed

    Can take a Draco Meteor thanks to Multiscale:
    252+ SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 207-244 (63.8 - 75.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

    Then outspeeds and OHKOs with a Dragon Claw (even without a WP boost).
     

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    Heatran @ Leftovers
    Trait: Flash Fire
    Bold Nature (+Def -Atk)
    248 HP / 8 Sp.D / 252 Def
    -Lava Plume
    -Protect
    -Roar
    -Toxic

    +2 252+ Atk Dragonite Dragon Claw vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Heatran: 102-120 (26.4 - 31.1%) -- 9.5% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Dragonite Dragon Claw vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Heatran: 51-60 (13.2 - 15.5%) ((If it doesn't have the WP Boost.))

    Can proceed to burn or widdle it down with toxic. Or of course, Roar if D-nite tries to set up on it.
     

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  • Mamoswine @ Life Orb / Choice Band
    Trait: Thick Fat
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
    Jolly Nature

    - Icicle Spear
    - Ice Shard
    - Earthquake
    - Superpower / Stone Edge

    Mamoswine can bypass Dragonite's Multiscale with Icicle Spear, which is an easy OHKO, while Dragon Claw fails to 2HKO (although it could end up being a tie if Mamo switches directly into Dragon Claw due to LO recoil, to fix it a CB may be used over it).
     
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    Cresselia (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Levitate
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SAtk
    Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
    • Moonlight
    • Calm Mind
    • Psychic
    • Ice Beam

    4 SpA Cresselia Psychic vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mamoswine: 117-138 (32.3 - 38.1%) -- 95.2% chance to 3HKO

    252+ Atk Life Orb Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 60-71 (13.5 - 15.9%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    252+ Atk Life Orb Mamoswine Superpower vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 58-70 (13 - 15.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever
    252+ Atk Life Orb Mamoswine Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 126-149 (28.3 - 33.5%) -- 97.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
    252+ Atk Life Orb Mamoswine Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cresselia: 99-117 (22.2 - 26.3%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery
     
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  • Houndoom (F) @ Leftovers
    Trait: Early Bird
    EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
    Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
    - Taunt
    - Dark Pulse
    - Nasty Plot
    - Flamethrower

    Taunt locks Cresselia into using Ice Beam and Psychic. Houndoom takes no damage from the latter due to its Dark typing. If Cresselia were to use Calm Mind on the turn Houndoom is switched in, Houndoom can use Taunt to prevent it from boosting its Special Defense stat any further and 2HKO with Dark Pulse after using Nasty Plot once. Taunt will also prevent Cresselia from recovering its lost HP with Moonlight.

    +2 252+ SpA Houndoom Dark Pulse vs. +1 252 HP / 0 SpD Cresselia: 270-320 (60.8 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

    +1 4 SpA Cresselia Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Houndoom: 46-55 (15.7 - 18.8%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery
     
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    Everyone's favorite...wait, what exactly is Tyranitar based off of? its a Godzilla thing XD

    -Tyranitar w/Choice Band
    Nature: Adamant
    Ability: Sand Stream
    EVs: 252 HP, 252 Attack, 4 Sp.Defense
    Moves: Stone Edge, Crunch, Earthquake, Brick Break

    You know what happens, right?
     
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