~~Diving Deep~~ (A Water Pokemon Fan Club)

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I'd do the most logical thing: building my super secret Water Gym. There'd be a ton of things, I need to do, like exploring the ocean in search for the mons that I need, looking for a good place where I could build everything, prepare the puzzles that I want to use, etc.
Hikamaru said:
I'd do a lot of swimming with them, or in the case of a Lapras or Wailmer, ride on it just like their special surfing sprites in 6th Gen. And why do I enjoy swimming? I'm a natural lover of water (fitting considering I live in a country literally surrounded by water) and I often enjoyed swimming lessons at school back in the day.
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I can see the future:
Extreme sports swimming: it's like swimming, but with a Gyarados in the back {XD}
ProfChaos said:
if i could, i'd use starmie like a boomerang weapon. Looks like it would really hurt smacking someone in the face and be extremely comical looking to boot lol. (especially if they weren't expecting it)
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It might be a good weapon to fend of those pesky officers who are trying to convict you for animal cruelty {XD}
 
R.F. said:
I'd do the most logical thing: building my super secret Water Gym. There'd be a ton of things, I need to do, like exploring the ocean in search for the mons that I need, looking for a good place where I could build everything, prepare the puzzles that I want to use, etc.

I can see the future:
Extreme sports swimming: it's like swimming, but with a Gyarados in the back {XD}

It might be a good weapon to fend of those pesky officers who are trying to convict you for animal cruelty {XD}
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Who do you think you are? Marlon? :v :v :v

Always remember my Gym is probably thr most exciting one:
-My Gym will be filled with slippery mud. Yes you will need to get dirrty in mah Gym yo.
-Wanna get in my chamber? You gotta flush yourself. Oh and watch out for the muddy water too. :)
-Of the player will be welcome with hot water upon arriving my chamber. ;)

Spoiler: Hi tharr, dis leader be liek
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My fun activity would be creating an underwater theme park, my Jellicient M and Gorebyss are definitely loving any companies. >:) #NotDarkEnough
 
Sun said:
My fun activity would be creating an underwater theme park, my Jellicient M and Gorebyss are definitely loving any companies. >:) #NotDarkEnough
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I'd definitely go to a water park that's full of Water Pokemon. It's so fun and you are surrounded by these cute aquatic creatures all the time.
 
Sun said:
Always remember my Gym is probably thr most exciting one:
-My Gym will be filled with slippery mud. Yes you will need to get dirrty in mah Gym yo.
-Wanna get in my chamber? You gotta flush yourself. Oh and watch out for the muddy water too. :)
-Of the player will be welcome with hot water upon arriving my chamber. ;)
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Your Gym is probably just a building, like every other gym and not, like mine, a complete island. :P

An Island shrouded in mist surrounded by gigantic waterfalls. Also it features a complete town full of water based illusions and a lot of mysteries that can only be solved by using Psynergy specific water moves. Also there's people you need to talk to; some battle you, some not, but all of them give you little hints in order to progress. Only by solving the mysteries do you get access to the central building and on top of it, I'll await you.
 
ProfChaos said:
Your nickname: Jay
- Your Partner Pokémon: Starmie
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- Reason for joining the club: Water is cool.
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Hello again Jay! Nice seeing you here. :) Have fun and splash around.

R.F. said:
Your Gym is probably just a building, like every other gym and not, like mine, a complete island. :P

An Island shrouded in mist surrounded by gigantic waterfalls. Also it features a complete town full of water based illusions and a lot of mysteries that can only be solved by using Psynergy specific water moves. Also there's people you need to talk to; some battle you, some not, but all of them give you little hints in order to progress. Only by solving the mysteries do you get access to the central building and on top of it, I'll await you.
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Obvious exiled is obvious.

Who do you think you're are Scott from Battle Frontier? :P If there's a Gym Islandthen that region's Pokemon League and Victory Road would be bigger than your Gym Island. XD On the other hand, there's a vacant in the cave area of Seafoam Island. :B

Joking aside, let's head to an another discussion, let's talk about Water-type's synergy with other types. :)

Let's begin from the most common one: Water/Ground-types like Wooper and others.
 
I feel like Water/Ground is one of the most synergistic type combinations, having only a single 4x weakness to Grass (and if you count individual moves, Freeze Dry), an immunity to Electric and resistances to Rock, Fire, Poison and Steel. It's a combination that works well, and the Grass weakness tends to be countered by the ability to learn Ice moves anyway.
 
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ProfChaos said:
- Your Partner Pokémon: Starmie
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I'm curious: why do you like Starmie? Have any stories to tell? :)
Sun said:
Who do you think you're are Scott from Battle Frontier? :P If there's a Gym Islandthen that region's Pokemon League and Victory Road would be bigger than your Gym Island. XD On the other hand, there's a vacant in the cave area of Seafoam Island. :B
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What Pokemon League? It seems like you misunderstood the situation: nobody's going to beat me, anyway, so there's no need for a Pokemon League :P

My opinion on Water/Ground Types is:
- Swampert: pretty bulky and powerfull; can set up its own Rain
- Gastrodon: stops most Rain teams cold; is in general really bulky and Storm Drain allows it to become quite decent offensively
- Quagsire: takes hits for days and doesn't care much about opponents boosting their stats
- Seismitoad: it exists; not really sure what to make of it, tbh. I suppose, it can set up Stealth Rocks and Water Absorb is decent, as well

So, yeah, all of them are pretty bulky and having only one weakness in Grass types (+a hugh weakness against Freeze Dry, but that's just a move, so w/e) makes them pretty usefull.
 
Water/Ground types

Mudkip Line - I like the unevolved form the most of the three but Mega Stampert is very useful and looks intimidating.

Quagsire - Not a fan of it's face but it's overall design I like but Misty does have one in HGSS. I have never used one.

Seismitoad line - Tympole is cute but Palpitoad and Seismitoad have awkward designs. If Seismitoad did not have the two bumps on it's head it would look great I think.

Gastrodon - Whilst I have never used one it does have the distinction of being on Cynthia's team. I prefer the Pink version to the blue form.

Off topic but I fished up one of my favourite Water Shinys today - Shiny Staryu. I really like the white body with sky blue gem. I have nicknamed it 'Misty'.
 
Aww I find it sad when you guys broke it up like that. :'( I personally prefer Nichole's answer, like you know integrated? :) I'm sorry if my title was confusing earlier.

And here's my answer on the topic.

I have to say I agree on Nichole's points a lot. Water and Ground creates an almost perfect synergy! So far the ones that we have on the menu are slow but relatively strong on the defensive side and this is particularly true with Swampy. But imagine, it would be terrifying if there's a Water/Ground Pokemon with the stats of a Greninja, granted that it is able to use EQ/EP. {XD}

Interestingly Rock and Ground-types are quite similar, even the officials were confused by it at at least one time (see episode 46 from the anime). But the Water/Rock creates a new kind of chemistry. Let's talk about the Water/Rock dual typing this time.
 
Water/Rock typing eh?

Well, we know that it's currently composed of four evolution lines (three of which are fossils) and two standalone Pokemon. Looking at the stats of most of these Pokemon so far, it appears they tend to be physical-based (makes sense since Rock mainly is a physical type) while the only exceptions are Corsola (being more defense-focused) and the Omanyte line (which are special attackers).

Like Water/Ground, the 4x Grass weakness is still here, but instead no Electric immunity or 4x Freeze Dry weakness, and then throw in a common weakness to Fighting as well. Another upside is a 4x resistance to Fire which is a common attacking type, so it does have its uses but isn't as competitively strong compared to Water/Ground. Also, scarcity outside of fossils makes this combo not as easily accessible unlike other Water dual-types.
 
R.F. said:
So you were chain fishing? You really must have patience in order to do that. Congrats! :)
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Yes it does need a bit of patience but it is rewarding in the end.

Incidentally today I chain fished a Shiny Alomonola, Luvdisc and Relicanth on my X profile. I am particularly pleased with getting a Shiny Relicanth, I nicknamed it Brock. :)

That leads me onto Water/Rock Typing. Some of the Water/Rock types like Omanyte and Relicanth I like.

They have a common theme where they are all ancient Pokemon giving some history to the Pokemon Franchise. The 4x weakness to Grass makes them easier to defeat for me than they perhaps should be. However the likes of Kabutops particularly can give an unprepared player problems.

On a random note Brock has three water/Rock types in his HGSS Gym team. (Omanstar, Kabutops and Relicanth).
 
CharmedGardy said:
They have a common theme where they are all ancient Pokemon giving some history to the Pokemon Franchise. The 4x weakness to Grass makes them easier to defeat for me than they perhaps should be. However the likes of Kabutops particularly can give an unprepared player problems.

On a random note Brock has three water/Rock types in his HGSS Gym team. (Omanstar, Kabutops and Relicanth).
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Yes very good thoughts there, the fact there's three evolution lines that are fossil Pokemon while Relicanth is a Pokemon with ancient connections shows how much Water/Rock Pokemon are tied to ancient times. Corsola and Binacle line however, aren't so ancient though since they're based on a coral (which tends to be hard-bodied like rocks) and a barnacle, which clinches onto rocks.
 
CharmedGardy said:
Yes it does need a bit of patience but it is rewarding in the end.

Incidentally today I chain fished a Shiny Alomonola, Luvdisc and Relicanth on my X profile. I am particularly pleased with getting a Shiny Relicanth, I nicknamed it Brock. :)
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Nice! Say, do you have a goal with your shiny chaining? Something like getting all the shiny versions of every Pokemon that you can get by fishing, or are you just curious to see what you can get in general (shiny fishing for the sake of shiny fishing)?
Hikamaru said:
Yes very good thoughts there, the fact there's three evolution lines that are fossil Pokemon while Relicanth is a Pokemon with ancient connections shows how much Water/Rock Pokemon are tied to ancient times. Corsola and Binacle line however, aren't so ancient though since they're based on a coral (which tends to be hard-bodied like rocks) and a barnacle, which clinches onto rocks.
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Considering that they are Water/Rock types and that life origined in the water, you'd imagine that there's still a ton of undiscovered Water/Rock types that need to be found. I wouldn't be too sure about the Corsola species not being that old. Then again, I'm not a professional in terms of ancient species.

Speaking of Corsola: back in 2001, when I was playing Gold a lot, one of the party members I had, was a Corsola. I know it had Spike Cannon which, even though it's considered a Normal type move, only a few Water types can learn. The other ones being Cloyster and the Omanyte line.
 
Don't think I joined this club. So... hello.

- Your nickname: Lorian
- Your Partner Pokémon: Greninja
- Reason for joining the club: Water has been my favourite type for a while. It's my most chosen starter as well. I enjoy going surfing/ diving often.
 
R.F. said:
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I have a lot of Shinys from fishing but I normally aim for a Shiny on a Route. Like I was aiming for a Shiny Alomonola (Which somewhat Fittingly has a Sassy Nature :)). Sometimes I get Shinys on the way to Shinys like whilst looking for a Shiny Poliwhirl I caught a Shiny Basculin on the way. :)

I have never used Corsola but it is part of the most lopsided against you in-game trades. An Aroma Lady in Pacfidilog Town asks for a Bellossom in exchange for her Corsola. For Bellossom you need a Sun Stone which are reasonably hard to get. Corsola can be caught by fishing.
 
CharmedGardy said:
I have never used Corsola but it is part of the most lopsided against you in-game trades. An Aroma Lady in Pacfidilog Town asks for a Bellossom in exchange for her Corsola. For Bellossom you need a Sun Stone which are reasonably hard to get. Corsola can be caught by fishing.
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Ah yes that awful in-game trade in the Hoenn games... doesn't Game Freak realize how hard it is to get a Sun Stone in those games? Oddish are a common find in most routes, but it's the shortage of evolution stones that make it hard for completionists, let alone evolve a Pokemon solely for an in-game trade. A complete rip-off if you ask me, since you can just fish for a Corsola anyway.

That said guys, I'm taking over the type combination discussions for a while since Sun is busy with Get-Together stuff. Anyways, let's get onto another common combination - Water/Flying!
 
Hikamaru said:
That said guys, I'm taking over the type combination discussions for a while since Sun is busy with Get-Together stuff. Anyways, let's get onto another common combination - Water/Flying!
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Usually, when I think about Water/Flying mons, the first thing that comes to mind is Pelipper, for some odd reason. You know that Pokemon that spams Protect like there's no tomorrow, making it a pain to encounter and fight? Yeah, that's Pelipper.

You seriously can't play RSE (or ORAS for that matter) peacefully, without encountering one of them at least once. You know, what's funny, though? Pelipper has a base 100 Defense, which is really high all things considered. It can actually take a hit, that is, if it isn't an Electric type attack. {XD}

I've never used one though. I don't know whether it's because of it being a somewhat common Pokemon, that also appears relatively early in the games (if we count Wingull), or whether it's because of just how annoying it tends to be when facing. It's Special Attack is still usable, so maybe I might take a look into it, when I feel like playing the games again...
 
One thing we do know about Water/Flying is that there's a decent variety of the Pokemon that play differently.

There's ones that have high defensive stats and HP, like Mantine and Pelipper while there's some that are more offensive like Swanna and Gyarados (and in Swanna's case, it's the speedster of the type as well) so it's a mixed bag as far as specialties. The type actually is quite good defensively, only having weaknesses to Rock and two 4x ones - Electric-types and Freeze Dry. Being Flying-types, they also carry the signature immunity to Ground, making them a hard counter to the type.

There may be not many Pokemon of the Water/Flying combination, but it'll always play differently based on stats alone. The issue with Gyarados is if I even consider it a Flying-type or not based mainly on the fact it literally only learns one Flying move.

Speaking of Swanna, I had some great dominance with one in a Showdown random battle, equipped with Hydration (hidden ability), Rain Dance and a set of moves that get buffed in the rain (Hurricane and Surf). It ended up slaying my opponent really well in that battle with those souped-up moves, trust me a high-powered Water move in rain hits for insane levels of damage and even more so with STAB.
 
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