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Forum Frontier #4- VOTE NOW

Which forum do you want to see?

  • Superheros/Villains forum

    Votes: 9 17.0%

  • Sports forum

    Votes: 13 24.5%

  • The Classroom(schoolwork assist forum)

    Votes: 14 26.4%

  • Pets forum

    Votes: 12 22.6%

  • Music forum

    Votes: 9 17.0%

  • New Leaf(forum dedicated to helping each other reach personal goals)

    Votes: 23 43.4%

  • The Old Haunt(Scary forum)

    Votes: 6 11.3%
  • Total voters
    53
  • Poll closed .
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pls make superhero forum not happen
 
I voted for the classroom, but seeing New Leaf currently winning, I am ok with this. A positive or encouraging environment could really help with new years motivation. I don't think it should be restricted to creating only new year threads though, as you have new goals at all times of the year, but yeah you should probably limit it to one thread per member for all their goals. Would probably adopt the same way A&D updates galleries, in that you can only 'bump' it if if you have new information/write up to add if no one has been talking there for awhile. The more I think about it, the more it might be pretty neat! :0

Also in terms of issues with blog being removed, there's a difference between having a place where a forum topic already exists making it's own case for attention, and blogs which currently have an entire system dedicated solely to it that is accessible from the main page of every style. Blogs are already here. They could be added to the front category like discord is if it's an issue with visibility, but that's not a case that it's similar, we literally already have member specific blogs in it's own thing not attached to anything else.
 
i dont mind any of them tbh, theyre all cool with me
 
i wonder if it's possible for staff to remove my vote from new leaf? while it's a cool idea and i really like that sort of accountability and positive motivation, i feel like the concept could be put to great use within pre-existing forums (primarily the creative sector)
 
Aquacorde said:
i wonder if it's possible for staff to remove my vote from new leaf? while it's a cool idea and i really like that sort of accountability and positive motivation, i feel like the concept could be put to great use within pre-existing forums (primarily the creative sector)
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curious, how so? tbh if it had to go anywhere I'd peg it as a lifestyle thing in the mall or something.

Zeffy said:
can someone explain how the new leaf thing warrants a forum of its own
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The same way all the other ideas in this area warrant a forum of it's own. It's either a new idea people like that can gain traction from it's own temp spotlight as a forum or it's a smaller topic from another area that's garnered enough initial attention to give it a go as it's own area for awhile. It wasn't an idea brought up until now, and most people are like "oh that's pretty neat". It doesn't mean that it wouldn't be able to just be an idea somewhere else, but hey it's here and people like it, so let's try it out.
 
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I just want to say that if classroom doesn't win the FF and anyone needs help with science you guys more than welcome to ask questions in The Lab.
[PokeCommunity.com] Forum Frontier #4- VOTE NOW

Just post your questions in one thread and add Help prefix in front of thread title. c:
 
Nina said:
The same way all the other ideas in this area warrant a forum of it's own. It's either a new idea people like that can gain traction from it's own temp spotlight as a forum or it's a smaller topic from another area that's garnered enough initial attention to give it a go as it's own area for awhile. It wasn't an idea brought up until now, and most people are like "oh that's pretty neat". It doesn't mean that it wouldn't be able to just be an idea somewhere else, but hey it's here and people like it, so let's try it out.
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i'm not questioning whether it's a good idea to try out, i agree that it's a very... interesting way of patting each other on the back, i just think that the enthusiasm for a "new leaf forum" is misplaced. it's likely going to happen anyway, but instead of creating a new forum for it i REALLY think that promoting each other's personal goals is much more suited to the respective forums where like-minded people are surely going to support you.

if my personal goal was to "listen to more music in 2017," i'd much prefer posting a thread General Entertainment where people will actually give music advice as the year progresses. another good example would be if my personal goal was to "create more art," i'd much rather prefer posting a thread in A&D where not only will i receive appropriate criticism, the forum itself is actually capable of promoting progress by creating a rewards system for being a capable artist.

honestly instead of creating new forums, i think PC should try and create sustainable activity in the forums that currently exist. of course, sustainable activity is subject to how sophisticated the contents of the forum are, but that's where moderators like yourself can come in.
 
Zeffy said:
i'm not questioning whether it's a good idea to try out, i agree that it's a very... interesting way of patting each other on the back, i just think that the enthusiasm for a "new leaf forum" is misplaced. it's likely going to happen anyway, but instead of creating a new forum for it i REALLY think that promoting each other's personal goals is much more suited to the respective forums where like-minded people are surely going to support you.
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A new idea can be implemented under our very broad categorizing, but that's not the point of the forum frontier in my mind. With that logic, multiverse should have stepped out and asked to be an idea of writing area first. Forum frontier doesn't replace any active growing subculture or ideas in other areas that could be it's own thing, it acts separately. If a required part of picking it was "it must not be able to be implemented anywhere else" you could argue that of pretty much every single idea.

Zeffy said:
honestly instead of creating new forums, i think PC should try and create sustainable activity in the forums that currently exist. of course, sustainable activity is subject to how sophisticated the contents of the forum are, but that's where moderators like yourself can come in.
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The job of moderators is to grow their areas, and we do. A new forum in this format doesn't change that, because as mods are section specific it doesn't create any extra work on the lowest rank end. There's a feeling people sometimes get is that any new ideas are potentially "stealing" content or attention of which another area could theoretically have a claim on, but I think that gets really overstated and isn't really impactful as you think it would be. A mod coming up and saying "hey guys let's do a new thing and here's the rules!!" work much less efficiently "hey guys, what do you want to try out right now?" and working from there.
 
Nina said:
A new idea can be implemented under our very broad categorizing, but that's not the point of the forum frontier in my mind. With that logic, multiverse should have stepped out and asked to be an idea of writing area first. Forum frontier doesn't replace any active growing subculture or ideas in other areas that could be it's own thing, it acts separately. If a required part of picking it was "it must not be able to be implemented anywhere else" you could argue that of pretty much every single idea.
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I think you've completely missed out what I was trying to say. I'm not criticizing the forum frontier and its implementation (though much is to be said, to be honest), I'm criticizing the "new leaf" idea. I'm not saying that "ideas must not be able to be implemented anywhere else", I was saying that the "new leaf" idea is something that will be more successful if implemented within a forum with like minded people surrounding you. I've even listed out a couple of examples. I couldn't care less about the other ideas, I was specifically criticizing the "new leaf" idea based on how people described they want it to be.

The job of moderators is to grow their areas, and we do. A new forum in this format doesn't change that, because as mods are section specific it doesn't create any extra work on the lowest rank end. There's a feeling people sometimes get is that any new ideas are potentially "stealing" content or attention of which another area could theoretically have a claim on, but I think that gets really overstated and isn't really impactful as you think it would be. A mod coming up and saying "hey guys let's do a new thing and here's the rules!!" work much less efficiently "hey guys, what do you want to try out right now?" and working from there.
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I'm well aware of a what a moderator should and should not be doing. I don't know what you're trying to say here? I was simply suggesting that PC shouldn't actively focus on creating new things, when there's dozens of forums that could be improved on instead.
 
Going with The Classroom, New Leaf, and Old Haunt because they others already have their own designated areas and aren't popular enough within those areas to really warrant any forum dedicated to them, except maybe sports. Also those three seem a lot more interesting.
 
Zeffy said:
I think you've completely missed out what I was trying to say. I'm not criticizing the forum frontier and its implementation (though much is to be said, to be honest), I'm criticizing the "new leaf" idea. I'm not saying that "ideas must not be able to be implemented anywhere else", I was saying that the "new leaf" idea is something that will be more successful if implemented within a forum with like minded people surrounding you. I've even listed out a couple of examples. I couldn't care less about the other ideas, I was specifically criticizing the "new leaf" idea based on how people described they want it to be.
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I'm telling you that criticizing the possible implementation of new leaf is pointless because of the formatting of forum frontier. It doesn't matter if it would be better implemented in another forum or not, they're not not going to "save" the idea and cut it out of the forum frontier pool unless there's a huge problem with it. I can say "I don't think sports would be an interest thing and should stay in GE" to convince people that a different idea is better for this frontier, but I'm not going to be able to say 'nah it shouldn't count because X so I want it out of the running' unless it's a technical problem, such as it very closely already existing, as with blogs.

Zeffy said:
I was simply suggesting that PC shouldn't actively focus on creating new things, when there's dozens of forums that could be improved on instead.
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I just told you that the moderators don't have much to do with this, since you are equating 'PC' to the entirety of staff. For our own sections unless there is an issue, h-staff pretty much leaves the moderators to do their own thing. 'Actively focusing' is overstating creating new forums by running a poll every few months that regular user make, vote, and curate without much moderation. (Mods discussing in here is not moderating, this is just our personal thoughts.) This is the opposite of taking effort to create new forum by staff, the users interested are doing like 90% of the work while higher staff just keeps an eye on it. Adding one more forum on the list for h-staff to look at and ask"is this burning to the ground or not, and do I need to do anything" I don't think is 'actively focusing' or ignoring other sections. (i assume this is what they do all day, idk what they actually talk about)

There are no skill points spent on the theoretical tech tree into creating new forums with the frontier that could be otherwise used by something else. The extra load is negligible, and if it becomes bigger just get a new mod to take care of it.
 
Honestly tho New Leaf seems like the only one that even warrants its own section at all, if even that.
 
Nina said:
I'm telling you that criticizing the possible implementation of new leaf is pointless because of the formatting of forum frontier. It doesn't matter if it would be better implemented in another forum or not, they're not not going to "save" the idea and cut it out of the forum frontier pool unless there's a huge problem with it. I can say "I don't think sports would be an interest thing and should stay in GE" to convince people that a different idea is better for this frontier, but I'm not going to be able to say 'nah it shouldn't count because X so I want it out of the running' unless it's a technical problem, such as it very closely already existing, as with blogs.
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Criticism is never pointless. The format of the forum frontier itself has a lot of criticism left untold, but I'm not going to list them because I quite like the idea of letting the community decide what can be seen next. I was criticizing a single idea because it seemed pointless to dedicate a new forum to it, but I'm not going to actively antagonize the people who want to implement it. I don't know why you keep trying to tell me off for saying my opinion on something, nor am I convincing you to change your mind. I'm just sharing another perspective that I think can be of use, regardless of the fact whether this "new leaf forum" will succeed as an independent forum.

I've said pretty much what I've wanted to say about this, but if you want to keep talking about this feel free to VM/PM/discord/etc. me.
 
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